I kinda have too much zygos compared to my jaw

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What do?

 

[Giorgio]

shaving, ZSO

it's a huge flaw
having too much bone is so much worse than not having enough, when you lack you just fix with an implant, when you have too much you need to shave first and THEN fix the shape with an implant

 

[ascendedd]

share some with me

 

[Deleted member 21628]

ngl id kill you like a pig

youre annoying asf

 

[Deleted member 19766]

shaving, ZSO

it's a huge flaw
having too much bone is so much worse than not having enough, when you lack you just fix with an implant, when you have too much you need to shave first and THEN fix the shape with an implant

What? Do you really need a ZSO right after, are implants really necessary?
Fuck, I've always thought you could just get a zygo shave and be done with it, that's what I've seen online as well. Care to elaborate?

What do?

IDK exactly but I have the same problem so let's ascend together, what's your bizygo and bigonial widths? I want to zygo shave down to perfect ES ratio, and then increase my jaw width after that for perfect bizygo-bigonial ratio (Probably through implants but maybe a side-wing or whatever could work as well) so they meet in the middle (Having a perfect ES ratio is the most important imo)

 

[Giorgio]

What? Do you really need a ZSO right after, are implants really necessary?
Fuck, I've always thought you could just get a zygo shave and be done with it, that's what I've seen online as well. Care to elaborate?

well think about it logically: will the surgeon be able to carve out the shape of the bone perfectly with a crude saw while he's working in a place that's hard to access under your skin?

the cuts he realistically can do are rather rudimentary, so bone shaving/repointing to fix the "too wide" or "too big" aspect, and then an implant to fix the shape back into a natural/ideal looking one

it sucks, and that's why I say that having too little bone is a much better failo because that can be fixed with just an implant itself

 

[Deleted member 19766]

well think about it logically: will the surgeon be able to carve out the shape of the bone perfectly with a crude saw while he's working in a place that's hard to access under your skin?

the cuts he realistically can do are rather rudimentary, so bone shaving/repointing to fix the "too wide" or "too big" aspect, and then an implant to fix the shape back into a natural looking one

You might be right tbh but have you actually researched this and seen this is as what is really done or is this just a theory of yours?

 

[Giorgio]

You might be right tbh but have you actually researched this and seen this is as what is really done or is this just a theory of yours?

I have done some research but not that much (I am focusing on other procedures I need to do before it), usually the two procedure are not paired together
usually shaving procedures are marketed as "feminization" surgeries where women get their jaw shaved down etc
it's also more popular in asian countries because they are more prone to having a moonface + a "slim face" is important under their beauty standards

but yeah, it's just a theory of mine
feel free to disagree

male plastic surgery is not that advanced imo, I mean there's only a few surgeons that are doing quality implants

 

[Deleted member 19766]

I have done some research but not that much (I am focusing on other procedures I need to do before it), usually the two procedure are not paired together
usually shaving procedures are marketed as "feminization" surgeries where women get their jaw shaved down etc
it's also more popular in asian countries because they are more prone to having a moonface + a "slim face" is important under their beauty standards

but yeah, it's just a theory of mine
feel free to disagree

male plastic surgery is not that advanced imo, I mean there's only a few surgeons that are doing quality implants

We need Arvid to do zygo shaving now that he did his forehead reduction

 

[Giorgio]

We need Arvid to do zygo shaving now that he did his forehead reduction

does not look like his zygos is too wide

 

[Deleted member 19766]

does not look like his zygos is too wide

You're right but he thinks they are, bro he literally got a gigantic ass scar on his forehead just to make it a tiny bit lower jfl he's a perfectionist

 

[Giorgio]

You're right but he thinks they are, bro he literally got a gigantic ass scar on his forehead just to make it a tiny bit lower jfl he's a perfectionist

nothing wrong with being a perfectionist when it comes to male looks

the threshold for what's considered "good looking" is so high, that even the tiniest flaws can descend you

 

[Deleted member 19766]

nothing wrong with being a perfectionist when it comes to male looks

the threshold for what's considered "good looking" is so high, that even the tiniest flaws can descend you

I know it's just that you can get a little mentalcel about it sometimes tbh. especially if you are already good looking the risk to reward is just not worth it at a point.

 

[Giorgio]

I know it's just that you can get a little mentalcel about it sometimes tbh. especially if you are already good looking the risk to reward is just not worth it at a point.

yeah, I myself struggle with that thought right now
I have big cheekbones, in all aspects, a little too big - the are making my ES worse than it could be, making my eyes smaller than they could be, and are making my face more oval than it could be

but at the same time my 3/4 looks great tanks to them, and I get hollow cheeks in situations where lighting is strong (like a photo with a flash on)
so is it really a good idea to wageslave for that much longer to get the 20k+ needed to fix this?

probably yes, since there's not many halos you can create with implants, and cheekbones being amongst the few

 

[Deleted member 19766]

yeah, I myself struggle with that thought right now
I have big cheekbones, in all aspects, a little too big - the are making my ES worse than it could be, making my eyes smaller than they could be, and are making my face more oval than it could be

but at the same time my 3/4 looks great tanks to them, and I get hollow cheeks in situations where lighting is strong (like a photo with a flash on)
so is it really a good idea to wageslave for that much longer to get the 20k+ needed to fix this?

probably yes, since there's not many halos you can create with implants, and cheekbones being amongst the few

Don't wageslave tbh not worth it imo unless your failo is like disability tier yet fixable (i.e. giga recessed jaw, really buggy eyes, gigantic hooked nose, or giga Manlet height)
Just focus on careermaxxing first and then with that money you can ascend your ass off

 

[Giorgio]

Don't wageslave tbh not worth it imo unless your failo is like disability tier yet fixable (i.e. giga recessed jaw, really buggy eyes, gigantic hooked nose, or giga Manlet height)
Just focus on careermaxxing first and then with that money you can ascend your ass off

wageslaving = careermaxxing in my case, I am already working in my target field, in IT
I def need to step up my salary, but it's a long process, I've only recently entered the workforce...

 

[Deleted member 19766]

wageslaving = careermaxxing in my case, I am already working in my target field, in IT
I def need to step up my salary, but it's a long process, I've only recently entered the workforce...

Ah, okay. Would you mind if I asked you a few things about your experience careermaxxing? I'm 18 and about to graduate highschool soon so I'd like to get to know more.

 

[Giorgio]

Ah, okay. Would you mind if I asked you a few things about your experience careermaxxing? I'm 18 and about to graduate highschool soon so I'd like to get to know more.

sure, take it to PMs

 

[Deleted member 22829]

Bro just chewmaxx

 

[ErbCel]

Way better to increase your jaw width than to reduce your zygomas' width. Fwhr is really important and should be maintained as much as possible

 

[Brazitard]

What do?

Not a big problem because it's good as long as they are flanged... Are they? Me myself have a 14cm jaw with 16,9cm zygos and although they don't look big, they don't look overly small either.