I MADE THE OG FACEPULLER DEVICE

[Anothersub5]

OG GATEKEPT FACEPULLING THREAD

Is poor nutrition, ignorant orthodontics, and bad karma creating a world of ugly, teeth-grinding, non-orgasmic beings who additionally end up suffering from TMJ and jaw pain? What if I told you that you could change your bad fortune in only 30 minutes a day while you watch TV - and that all this...

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Same shit

I tasted this shit and works well, i bring the helmet with my ortho, he aproved this shit and now he thinks im some kind of genius JFL (even when i said that this shit wasnt my idea), i will be updating of the results, right now im on orthopedics to improve nasal breathing (that shit is working crazy) and my ortho said that i need to wait 1.5 months to use the helmet, so imma wait.

 

[Anothersub5]

bump

 

[NiZr]

 

[FlotPSL]

OG GATEKEPT FACEPULLING THREAD

Is poor nutrition, ignorant orthodontics, and bad karma creating a world of ugly, teeth-grinding, non-orgasmic beings who additionally end up suffering from TMJ and jaw pain? What if I told you that you could change your bad fortune in only 30 minutes a day while you watch TV - and that all this...

looksmax.org

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View attachment 4224779 Same shit

I tasted this shit and works well, i bring the helmet with my ortho, he aproved this shit and now he thinks im some kind of genius JFL (even when i said that this shit wasnt my idea), i will be updating of the results, right now im on orthopedics to improve nasal breathing (that shit is working crazy) and my ortho said that i need to wait 1.5 months to use the helmet, so imma wait.

Original autism

 

[khhvincel]

nice bro, can i do this with a surgical face mask instead of a helmet?

 

[King_Schnitzel]

OG GATEKEPT FACEPULLING THREAD

Is poor nutrition, ignorant orthodontics, and bad karma creating a world of ugly, teeth-grinding, non-orgasmic beings who additionally end up suffering from TMJ and jaw pain? What if I told you that you could change your bad fortune in only 30 minutes a day while you watch TV - and that all this...

looksmax.org

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View attachment 4224779 Same shit

I tasted this shit and works well, i bring the helmet with my ortho, he aproved this shit and now he thinks im some kind of genius JFL (even when i said that this shit wasnt my idea), i will be updating of the results, right now im on orthopedics to improve nasal breathing (that shit is working crazy) and my ortho said that i need to wait 1.5 months to use the helmet, so imma wait.

What would I use it for?
I read the original thread and I had braces for 5 years and still have the retainers named as bad.

 

[HarmonyHunter]

Original autism

holy find https://looksmax.org/threads/og-gatekept-facepulling-thread.1362847/
should i do this despite the fact ill probably get bimax

 

[jeoyw9192]

OG GATEKEPT FACEPULLING THREAD

Is poor nutrition, ignorant orthodontics, and bad karma creating a world of ugly, teeth-grinding, non-orgasmic beings who additionally end up suffering from TMJ and jaw pain? What if I told you that you could change your bad fortune in only 30 minutes a day while you watch TV - and that all this...

looksmax.org

View attachment 4224764View attachment 4224766View attachment 4224767


View attachment 4224779 Same shit

I tasted this shit and works well, i bring the helmet with my ortho, he aproved this shit and now he thinks im some kind of genius JFL (even when i said that this shit wasnt my idea), i will be updating of the results, right now im on orthopedics to improve nasal breathing (that shit is working crazy) and my ortho said that i need to wait 1.5 months to use the helmet, so imma wait.

The images arent loading could u send them again

 

[Anothersub5]

nice bro, can i do this with a surgical face mask instead of a helmet?

yeah should work

 

[Anothersub5]

What would I use it for?
I read the original thread and I had braces for 5 years and still have the retainers named as bad.

forward growth

holy find https://looksmax.org/threads/og-gatekept-facepulling-thread.1362847/
should i do this despite the fact ill probably get bimax

i would do anything for those extra mm, its always fucking worthy

The images arent loading could u send them again

 

[HarmonyHunter]

forward growth

i would do anything for those extra mm, its always fucking worthy


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if i do this i might not be able to get bimax for free with nhs cause it would make my underbite better most likely.

 

[Anothersub5]

do it after then

 

[jeoyw9192]

if i do this i might not be able to get bimax for free with nhs cause it would make my underbite better most likely.

Lmao wtf is ur pfp

forward growth

i would do anything for those extra mm, its always fucking worthy


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mirin looks solid. how much did it cost to make, and was it easy to make? also why do u have to wait 1.5 months before using it, and what would u say the predicted/expected/hopeful results could be wearing it?

 

[HarmonyHunter]

Lmao wtf is ur pfp

mirin looks solid. how much did it cost to make, and was it easy to make? also why do u have to wait 1.5 months before using it, and what would u say the predicted/expected/hopeful results could be wearing it?

my pfp is cute.
and he most likely has to wait that long cause it will probably affect his braces or expander wtv hes doing

 

[Anothersub5]

mirin looks solid. how much did it cost to make, and was it easy to make? also why do u have to wait 1.5 months before using it, and what would u say the predicted/expected/hopeful results could be wearing it?

the most expensive shit was the helmet, i bought it for like 100 dollars, cuz it was new lmao, but second handed u could buy it for less than 50 idk, the fucking rubber bands costed like a dollar, also the clips 0,50, and the screws were like a dolar too so, this shit is cheap asf, was pretty easy to made, i just maked 2 holes and put the screws over there . i could say that im expecting 5-8 mm of forward growth or even more, i will also blast some hgh and roids so its not that crazy, the original mf gained almost a mm per month so i dont think its something crazy to achieve, also by consecuence this would save my raped infras and pop out my zygos. Anyways i will update how this shit will be working

my pfp is cute.
and he most likely has to wait that long cause it will probably affect his braces or expander wtv hes doing

im waiting 1.5 months cuz im on orthopedics to improve nasal breathing as i said, once i finish that shit, i will use the helmet

the shit im using paired w damon braces looks like this, they are called planas tracks class 1

 

[HarmonyHunter]

good luck bhai

 

[stufftodo]

the most expensive shit was the helmet, i bought it for like 100 dollars, cuz it was new lmao, but second handed u could buy it for less than 50 idk, the fucking rubber bands costed like a dollar, also the clips 0,50, and the screws were like a dolar too so, this shit is cheap asf, was pretty easy to made, i just maked 2 holes and put the screws over there . i could say that im expecting 5-8 mm of forward growth or even more, i will also blast some hgh and roids so its not that crazy, the original mf gained almost a mm per month so i dont think its something crazy to achieve, also by consecuence this would save my raped infras and pop out my zygos. Anyways i will update how this shit will be working

im waiting 1.5 months cuz im on orthopedics to improve nasal breathing as i said, once i finish that shit, i will use the helmet

the shit im using paired w damon braces looks like this, they are called planas tracks class 1
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whos your orthodontics?

 

[yex]

Original autism

One of the few autisms that actually work

 

[yex]

I've never seen that thread This is crazy

 

[Hoax]

Legendary thread, im making this rn bump.

 

[Anothersub5]

whos your orthodontics?

a mexican bastard, the white nigger is high iq

 

[yex]

the most expensive shit was the helmet, i bought it for like 100 dollars, cuz it was new lmao, but second handed u could buy it for less than 50 idk, the fucking rubber bands costed like a dollar, also the clips 0,50, and the screws were like a dolar too so, this shit is cheap asf, was pretty easy to made, i just maked 2 holes and put the screws over there . i could say that im expecting 5-8 mm of forward growth or even more, i will also blast some hgh and roids so its not that crazy, the original mf gained almost a mm per month so i dont think its something crazy to achieve, also by consecuence this would save my raped infras and pop out my zygos. Anyways i will update how this shit will be working

im waiting 1.5 months cuz im on orthopedics to improve nasal breathing as i said, once i finish that shit, i will use the helmet

the shit im using paired w damon braces looks like this, they are called planas tracks class 1
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Wait so before I get the helmet and build it I need retainers with strong hook?

 

[yex]

FOR FUCKS SAKE, I had the perfect braces for this method around 6 months ago, even with a strong hook at the back teeeth and at the front teeth. but I got them removed. I HATE MY LIFE
I'm getting a custom retainer for this idc

 

[GynoGladiator]

Are you donsjohns

 

[aids]

Miring low inhib.

 

[Anothersub5]

Wait so before I get the helmet and build it I need retainers with strong hook?

yeah or damon braces, if u dont get a good retainer u are going to fuck up ur bite (thats why the retainer is needed lol)

FOR FUCKS SAKE, I had the perfect braces for this method around 6 months ago, even with a strong hook at the back teeeth and at the front teeth. but I got them removed. I HATE MY LIFE
I'm getting a custom retainer for this idc

could be worse, remember that some bastards got premolars removed or even more theeth jfl

 

[xX_ovrb4itstrtd_Xx]

been looking at that og thread since this summer and finally someone brings the autism to life, a mm of forward growth a month is fucking insane tho i doubt the results are that fast, maybe newbie gains at first but either way im buying the supplies for this shit. my side profile is fucked from my non-existent forward growth and ill be 30 before i can afford bimax so fuck it rather break my face trying to fix it than do life like this now.

 

[Noesis]

Anything but buying a facemask

 

[maxximus]

what force are you pulling with? its tooth borne, youre risking resorption and tooth loss if its above 200g

 

[yex]

yeah or damon braces, if u dont get a good retainer u are going to fuck up ur bite (thats why the retainer is needed lol)

could be worse, remember that some bastards got premolars removed or even more theeth jfl

I will need a retainer that's screwed into my palate, correct? Not just a put on and easily get it off type retainer?

 

[yex]

I will need a retainer that's screwed into my palate, correct? Not just a put on and easily get it off type retainer?

Oh, nvm the retainers can be taken off and on and aren't fixed. Didn't know that. Well I'll hit up my local ortho office and do more research rn.

 

[JkCel]

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OG GATEKEPT FACEPULLING THREAD

Is poor nutrition, ignorant orthodontics, and bad karma creating a world of ugly, teeth-grinding, non-orgasmic beings who additionally end up suffering from TMJ and jaw pain? What if I told you that you could change your bad fortune in only 30 minutes a day while you watch TV - and that all this...

looksmax.org

View attachment 4224764View attachment 4224766View attachment 4224767


View attachment 4224779 Same shit

I tasted this shit and works well, i bring the helmet with my ortho, he aproved this shit and now he thinks im some kind of genius JFL (even when i said that this shit wasnt my idea), i will be updating of the results, right now im on orthopedics to improve nasal breathing (that shit is working crazy) and my ortho said that i need to wait 1.5 months to use the helmet, so imma wait.

 

[Anothersub5]

been looking at that og thread since this summer and finally someone brings the autism to life, a mm of forward growth a month is fucking insane tho i doubt the results are that fast, maybe newbie gains at first but either way im buying the supplies for this shit. my side profile is fucked from my non-existent forward growth and ill be 30 before i can afford bimax so fuck it rather break my face trying to fix it than do life like this now.

yeah that shit would be a desirable result, but idk how my body will react until i made this shit, if this shit works well i will say it and also prove it with unfrauded pics, same angles and also videos jutting and no jutting. You get the point and only the ones who were or are truly fucked can relate, we dont have time and we are doing whatever it takes to ascend

Anything but buying a facemask

shit is expensive asf, my previous ortho also said that its only for children JFL at that bastard, and i need a fucking licence to buy it, at least where i live lol

Oh, nvm the retainers can be taken off and on and aren't fixed. Didn't know that. Well I'll hit up my local ortho office and do more research rn.

mirin

what force are you pulling with? its tooth borne, youre risking resorption and tooth loss if its above 200g

im not doing it yet, and i havent measured the forces, but i would say that its painless and comfy, i will measure the forces and what you said was one of my concerns, more force its not always better, also i would need to change the rubber bands at some point, maybe each week cuz they would be propensive to loose strenght over the time

 

[FATPU$$YHUNTER]

a collection of thoughts, might ramble a bit:

Nice dude, I'm doing a similar thing with a diy version of forwarddontics facepuller (fg.1) and a schwarz 3 way expander with reverse pull hooks from bracesshop (fg.2).

I got this setup from some old threads on here, if you search up "facepulling" you'll prolly be able to find them.

One thing I like about this setup over the one suggested in lookism is that you can wear it overnight and get 8 hours of pulling (you can actually sleep with the bow, you can't with the helmet) . I'm suspicious of the claim the lookism dude made, that he got results only pulling for 30 minutes, seems too good to be true.

Additionally, I think its important to suction mew when you're not using the facepuller, in order for your bones to not relapse back into their original position. Ik mewing is a meme (rightfully so, theres very little evidence to support that it can make a change in an adults face), but in this scenario it makes sense, since we're not trying to make changes but rather maintain the change we've gotten with the facepuller.

Its interesting to note how the idea of facepulling has evolved in two different directions; pulling for a long time with light forces (what we're doing here) and pulling for a short time with high forces (think @thejcpenny 's facepulling method). Idk which is more effective, if they're doing the same thing (total work done being whats important) or if they're affecting different mechanisms of growth

One thing I haven't looked too hard but that seems interesting is the idea of loosening the sutures. Its often done in MSE through cortipuncture. I wonder if theres a way to DIY something like that at home, or potentially come at the problem from a chemical perspective?

lastly, @stufftodo drop the fuckin stufftodostein files on facepulling bruh, I've been on the edge of my seat for it

(fg.1, forwardontics facepuller)

(fg.2, bracesshop schwarz 3 way expander)

 

[FATPU$$YHUNTER]

also, my hunch is that you prolly need to progressively overload the pulling force over time. I started with like one elastic eitherside of the expander, now I'm doing 2

 

[Anothersub5]

a collection of thoughts, might ramble a bit:

Nice dude, I'm doing a similar thing with a diy version of forwarddontics facepuller (fg.1) and a schwarz 3 way expander with reverse pull hooks from bracesshop (fg.2).

I got this setup from some old threads on here, if you search up "facepulling" you'll prolly be able to find them.

One thing I like about this setup over the one suggested in lookism is that you can wear it overnight and get 8 hours of pulling. I'm suspicious of the claim the lookism dude made, that he got results only pulling for 30 minutes, seems too good to be true.

Additionally, I think its important to suction mew when you're not using the facepuller, in order for your bones to not relapse back into their original position. Ik mewing is a meme (rightfully so, theres very little evidence to support that it can make a change in an adults face), but in this scenario it makes sense, since we're not trying to make changes but rather maintain the change we've gotten with the facepuller.

Its interesting to note how the idea of facepulling has evolved in two different directions; pulling for a long time with light forces (what we're doing here) and pulling for a short time with high forces (think @thejcpenny 's facepulling method). Idk which is more effective, if they're doing the same thing (total work done being whats important) or if they're affecting different mechanisms of growth

One thing I haven't looked too hard but that seems interesting is the idea of loosening the sutures. Its often done in MSE through cortipuncture. I wonder if theres a way to DIY something like that at home, or potentially come at the problem from a chemical perspective?

lastly, @stufftodo drop the fuckin stufftodostein files on facepulling bruh, I've been on the edge of my seat for it


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(fg.1, forwardontics facepuller)

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(fg.2, bracesshop schwarz 3 way expander)

interesting, you are right, it doesnt matter how good results you achieve with braces or other shit, if u dont keep the proper oral posture, you will fuck up ur teeth and they are going to move to their original position, that also applies in this case.

Im also planning to use it 2-4 hours daily, i can play with the times and the forces (without raping my face) My ortho is gonna give me the dental expansor of the fg. 2 in 2 months i tried and seems like i fucking need to lowkey blackpill the mf to change it for a Hyrax or some skeletal expander

 

[Anothersub5]

also, my hunch is that you prolly need to progressively overload the pulling force over time. I started with like one elastic eitherside of the expander, now I'm doing 2

yeah seems like that, more time or more strenght. btw have u ever posted some changes?, looks interesting

 

[FATPU$$YHUNTER]

yeah seems like that, more time or more strenght. btw have u ever posted some changes?, looks interesting

Not yet, started 2 weeks ago. I'm gonna probably measure start of march 2026. I think 4 months is enough time for there to be visual/measureable changes

 

[Anothersub5]

Not yet, started 2 weeks ago. I'm gonna probably measure start of march 2026. I think 4 months is enough time for there to be visual/measureable changes

Mirin
tag me when u post that

 

[jeoyw9192]

a collection of thoughts, might ramble a bit:

Nice dude, I'm doing a similar thing with a diy version of forwarddontics facepuller (fg.1) and a schwarz 3 way expander with reverse pull hooks from bracesshop (fg.2).

I got this setup from some old threads on here, if you search up "facepulling" you'll prolly be able to find them.

One thing I like about this setup over the one suggested in lookism is that you can wear it overnight and get 8 hours of pulling (you can actually sleep with the bow, you can't with the helmet) . I'm suspicious of the claim the lookism dude made, that he got results only pulling for 30 minutes, seems too good to be true.

Additionally, I think its important to suction mew when you're not using the facepuller, in order for your bones to not relapse back into their original position. Ik mewing is a meme (rightfully so, theres very little evidence to support that it can make a change in an adults face), but in this scenario it makes sense, since we're not trying to make changes but rather maintain the change we've gotten with the facepuller.

Its interesting to note how the idea of facepulling has evolved in two different directions; pulling for a long time with light forces (what we're doing here) and pulling for a short time with high forces (think @thejcpenny 's facepulling method). Idk which is more effective, if they're doing the same thing (total work done being whats important) or if they're affecting different mechanisms of growth

One thing I haven't looked too hard but that seems interesting is the idea of loosening the sutures. Its often done in MSE through cortipuncture. I wonder if theres a way to DIY something like that at home, or potentially come at the problem from a chemical perspective?

lastly, @stufftodo drop the fuckin stufftodostein files on facepulling bruh, I've been on the edge of my seat for it


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(fg.1, forwardontics facepuller)

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(fg.2, bracesshop schwarz 3 way expander)

What are the stufftodostein files on face pulling, any more context?

Anyways mirin do tag me for any updates

the most expensive shit was the helmet, i bought it for like 100 dollars, cuz it was new lmao, but second handed u could buy it for less than 50 idk, the fucking rubber bands costed like a dollar, also the clips 0,50, and the screws were like a dolar too so, this shit is cheap asf, was pretty easy to made, i just maked 2 holes and put the screws over there . i could say that im expecting 5-8 mm of forward growth or even more, i will also blast some hgh and roids so its not that crazy, the original mf gained almost a mm per month so i dont think its something crazy to achieve, also by consecuence this would save my raped infras and pop out my zygos. Anyways i will update how this shit will be working

im waiting 1.5 months cuz im on orthopedics to improve nasal breathing as i said, once i finish that shit, i will use the helmet

the shit im using paired w damon braces looks like this, they are called planas tracks class 1
View attachment 4226601

 

[FATPU$$YHUNTER]

What are the stufftodostein files on face pulling, any more context?

Anyways mirin do tag me for any updates

facepulling

FIXING THE ONLY FLAWS WITH JCPENNY'S FACEPULLING METHOD I know you cucks like to call everything cope, but facepulling/belt/towel pulling does work. Facepulling essentially is mimicking how orthodontic appliances work. If you want more proof, go through jcpenny's posts. There's so much stuff...

looksmax.org

@stufftodo konichiwa brah, pls send pics of your notes and I'll send a thick, big booty chinese BAO your way

 

[maxximus]

One thing I like about this setup over the one suggested in lookism is that you can wear it overnight and get 8 hours of pulling (you can actually sleep with the bow, you can't with the helmet) . I'm suspicious of the claim the lookism dude made, that he got results only pulling for 30 minutes, seems too good to be true.

cyclic loading

im working on something too, im planning to pull at a 30 degree angle ± 5 degrees, every hour for 3 minutes, starting at 500g and building up to 800g (becomes unsafe after that)

my appliance isnt anchored to anything, it relies on the force of the pull and a cheap suction around the teeth so it doesnt move. around the teeth is necessary, it takes like 100g to move teeth but more than that to move bone

i'll have longer 1 hour sessions at night before bed to sort of retain the results, youre right about mewing though, its huge copium for anybody above the age of 13 but its probably gonna act as a retainer added you have good posture and dont mouth breathe, especially in your sleep

im still working on designs and stuff, if this doesnt work then surgery's the only way, but im at the right age so im expecting 3-4mm after 6 months

 

[maxximus]

keep in mind you dont want to pull at a big angle, thats actually gonna recess you by dropping your molars

im taking a risk with 30 degrees tbh, I might tone it down to 25 or even 20

the thing is even 3mm of ccw can make you noticeably more defined, I have a forward grown maxilla but im a bit downswung, which contributes to a recessed jaw

3mm up could lowk change my life, so im counting on this

 

[FATPU$$YHUNTER]

keep in mind you dont want to pull at a big angle, thats actually gonna recess you by dropping your molars

could you elaborate on what you mean by this?

 

[maxximus]

could you elaborate on what you mean by this?

right so

the jaw is a rotating object, right? like a seesaw. the pivot is in the center. so if you pull the front up aggressively, the back would drop

if the back drops, the mandible would autorotate to match the bite. that would in turn recess you much, much more than you were before

but heres the thing:

youre not pulling it aggressively, and it isnt exactly like a seesaw

if you pull at a big angle, something like 40 degrees or 50 degrees, you will RISK getting a recessed mandible

but the golden vector is forward and SLIGHTLY upwards, because its gonna encourage ccw

 

[maxximus]

if you pull forward only, youre gonna risk dental tipping, so thats bad too

it specifically has to be slightly upwards and mostly forward, anybody that says otherwise is a fucking retard

 

[FATPU$$YHUNTER]

right so

the jaw is a rotating object, right? like a seesaw. the pivot is in the center. so if you pull the front up aggressively, the back would drop

if the back drops, the mandible would autorotate to match the bite. that would in turn recess you much, much more than you were before

but heres the thing:

youre not pulling it aggressively, and it isnt exactly like a seesaw

if you pull at a big angle, something like 40 degrees or 50 degrees, you will RISK getting a recessed mandible

but the golden vector is forward and SLIGHTLY upwards, because its gonna encourage ccw

ah ok, thanks

3mm up could lowk change my life, so im counting on this

I'll be honest, if thats all you need I think theres a better way tbh. you could intrude (move up) your upper teeth into the alveolar bone with invisalign+buttons+bands; then potentially get a lip lift if your smile is off

 

[Noesis]

cyclic loading

im working on something too, im planning to pull at a 30 degree angle ± 5 degrees, every hour for 3 minutes, starting at 500g and building up to 800g (becomes unsafe after that)

my appliance isnt anchored to anything, it relies on the force of the pull and a cheap suction around the teeth so it doesnt move. around the teeth is necessary, it takes like 100g to move teeth but more than that to move bone

i'll have longer 1 hour sessions at night before bed to sort of retain the results, youre right about mewing though, its huge copium for anybody above the age of 13 but its probably gonna act as a retainer added you have good posture and dont mouth breathe, especially in your sleep

im still working on designs and stuff, if this doesnt work then surgery's the only way, but im at the right age so im expecting 3-4mm after 6 months

That won't work it will stimulate osteoblasts but bone is elastic you will never move it like this. You don't see people wearing braces for 3 minutes every hour

 

[maxximus]

That won't work it will stimulate osteoblasts but bone is elastic you will never move it like this. You don't see people wearing braces for 3 minutes every hour

just give me hope

 

[maxximus]

ah ok, thanks


I'll be honest, if thats all you need I think theres a better way tbh. you could intrude (move up) your upper teeth into the alveolar bone with invisalign+buttons+bands; then potentially get a lip lift if your smile is off

it isnt a smile thing, I have good symmetry, very good facial ratios

its just that my face is a bit downswung and I have a recessed mandible