I present you my xrays. Please share your thoughts and if there's any surgery that can help me ascend from ltn.

[ronald_2]

 

[MA_ascender]

@NZb6Air does he need CCW bimax?

 

[MANLETprettyBOY]

ITS OVER BUDDY BOYO

 

[ronald_2]

ITS OVER BUDDY BOYO

I dont disagree with you, yet I would like to know the reasoning behind your statement.

 

[NZb6Air]

@NZb6Air does he need CCW bimax?

no

I dont disagree with you, yet I would like to know the reasoning behind your statement.

sho the real side profile nigga

 

[ronald_2]

no

show the real side profile nigga

What do you mean the real side profile?

 

[madsin]

mirin antegonial notch and downgrowism (bad jaw development)
i can see some assymetry and that you lack bone mass
do you lack eyebrow ridge/glabela? it seems there is nothing there

 

[MANLETprettyBOY]

I dont disagree with you, yet I would like to know the reasoning behind your statement.

flat maxilla your gonna need lefort 3 which is dangerous and hard to find plus your gonna need to wage slave so yes its over

 

[ronald_2]

mirin antegonial notch and downgrowism (bad jaw development)
i can see some assymetry and that you lack bone mass
do you lack eyebrow ridge/glabela? it seems there is nothing there

Where do you see the assymetry exactly?

About eyebrow ridge/glabela, yeah they are pretty much non existent. This is why I was considering bonesmashing my brow ridge.

 

[ronald_2]

Bump

 

[descension]

downgrowth demon

 

[ronald_2]

downgrowth demon

Do I have a possibility to improve?

 

[ronald_2]

no

sho the real side profile nigga

Please what do you mean with real side profile.

 

[NZb6Air]

Please what do you mean with real side profile.

flesh one

 

[ronald_2]

 

[ronald_2]

flesh one

Done

 

[ronald_2]

I wonder if getting genio would be worth it.

 

[BProdigy]

Get a ct scan of your skull and get a consultation with multiple surgeons like ramieri or pagnoni. If you have the money. Also lose weight

 

[ronald_2]

Get a ct scan of your skull and get a consultation with multiple surgeons like ramieri or pagnoni. If you have the money. Also lose weight

They made a ton of scans of my skull. Those are just two of the more like 50 I got. Also they gave me videos of the scans.

 

[BProdigy]

They made a ton of scans of my skull. Those are just two of the more like 50 I got. Also they gave me videos of the scans.

Well then dm some surgeons with your pics. They will help you

 

[Weed]

Trimax here obviously

 

[ronald_2]

Trimax here obviously

I guess that must cost a lot. What about something less extreme?

 

[ronald_2]

mirin antegonial notch and downgrowism (bad jaw development)
i can see some assymetry and that you lack bone mass
do you lack eyebrow ridge/glabela? it seems there is nothing there

How could I fix the antegonial notch at least. Would a genioplasty help?

 

[Weed]

I guess that must cost a lot. What about something less extreme?

Sliding genio + jaw implants I guess but if I was you I'd moneymax for trimax

 

[ronald_2]

Sliding genio + jaw implants I guess but if I was you I'd moneymax for trimax

I will send my pics to some surgeons. I'll start with Eppley. We'll see what he suggests me.

 

[descension]

Do I have a possibility to improve?

Of course, everyone does

 

[NotBlueFox]

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I mean this in the nicest way possible but if your ltn then I’m at least h mtn

 

[kalefartbomb]

Were you a grain-fed mouthbreather as a kid?

 

[ronald_2]

Were you a grain-fed mouthbreather as a kid?

Its really bad isnt it. Seems like my biggest problem is my maxilla/jaw. Thats why I have a long face and its the reason why women find me unattractive.

 

[ronald_2]

I mean this in the nicest way possible but if your ltn then I’m at least h mtn

I never said I was ltn. I know I'm ugly.

 

[neverbegun4me]

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CCW + genioplasty. Can't really tell without pics

 

[Underdog9494]

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Try hyoid raising, debloating, low bf% if not surgery

 

[ronald_2]

CCW + genioplasty. Can't really tell without pics

You are correct. I'm sure that my biggest failo is my lower third being too long. I measured my facial thirds and both the upper and middle ones are practically the same, while the lower third is a finger longer than the two. And its because of my maxilla being downgrown, making my philtrum way too long. It throws off all the proportions off. Makes my mouth sit too low on my face.

 

[looks>books]

Before any surgeries:

Lean to sub 10% bodyfat and get muscle and clear your skin. This is your softmax potential.
After that and yous till aren’t satisfied then look into surgery.

If you train abs and cant see them youre too fat.

Jesus saves

 

[ronald_2]

Before any surgeries:

Lean to sub 10% bodyfat and get muscle and clear your skin. This is your softmax potential.
After that and yous till aren’t satisfied then look into surgery.

If you train abs and cant see them youre too fat.

Jesus saves

My face looks even longer when I get too skinny. I have gotten close to 10%. I look worse at low bf. Right now I must be at about 15%. And I do workout and have decent muscles.

Regarding skin, yeah I'm taking better care of it now. Still it cant make much difference if the base is all wrong.