I promise myself that I will not bring kids into this cruel world

[134applesauce456]

When I look around I see so much suffering, so much families grieving , the worst things in life happening to people.

I see people getting murdered, kidnapped, tortured, left with traumatic brain injuries, paralysis, debilitating illness, the list goes on and on

I also see people simply being born into a worse quality of living , people being born with severe mental illness or severe disabilities , people being born with no limbs or deformity, complete body paralysis, unable to function without a machine, the horrors can go on and on and on and on

Families have to deal and grieve with seeing their loved ones like this (if it isn't them, themselves in that condition)

I honestly don't know I got so lucky to not have those things happen to me, I deserve it way more than the people it happens to.

I am scared of the future, I know the worse is yet to come.

I honestly believe no one in this life has it lucky, this world is hellish. You might have a good life now but the life you are living is far from guaranteed. You can have everything ripped away from you in a second. I am scared


Sorry for this long rant but I have been feeling very nihilistic today idk why.

Anyways to sum it up basically i'm scared and I don't like this world and I don't want to bring people into , they will just suffer inevitably

Please let's discuss in the replies, I am still a Christian but obviously I struggle with faith, I don't want to stop believing because it gives me so much hope

 

[134applesauce456]

bro jfl I didn't realize I wrote a whole essay, no one's going to read

 

[superpsycho]

fellow anti-natalist

 

[Idontknowlol]

I refuse to bring another slave to this Jewish corrupt world

 

[cooldude1231]

If only you were chad, youd be doing your kid a favor by letting them cum in a stacys warm tight pussy

 

[134applesauce456]

I refuse to bring another slave to this Jewish corrupt world

ye basically sums it up, I think in the end everyone will suffer on this Earth, no need to bring children to further the suffering

 

[134applesauce456]

If only you were chad, youd be doing your kid a favor by letting them cum in a stacys warm tight pussy

I don't really care about that right now, read what I said. It's not me bitching about my inceldom. This world is genuinely filled with horrors and suffering, even the Chads are fucked because you can lose everything in one freak accident just like that. I've seen it happen.


We are so doomed idk what to do, shall I just end it right now so I don't have to deal with the suffering that will come later on

 

[cooldude1231]

I don't really care about that right now, read what I said. It's not me bitching about my inceldom. This world is genuinely filled with horrors and suffering, even the Chads are fucked because you can lose everything in one freak accident just like that. I've seen it happen.


We are so doomed idk what to do, shall I just end it right now so I don't have to deal with the suffering that will come later on

Life is pain

 

[134applesauce456]

Life is pain

truth

 

[elfin]

I've had similar thoughts before but as of today I'm already set in life and I can support having a family of 4 myself while retiring early so I decided to have a family in the future.

The only point where you should be planning on having a family is if you're going to be well off in life (job opportunities or your family is already doing well) or already well off in life. I personally want to give another human the wonderful experience I've had in this life myself but I understand your reasoning.

 

[134applesauce456]

bump I need high iq discussion

@ey88 @cromagnon @JeanneDArcAlter @SecularIslamist @endlessummer @itzyaboyJJ @iblamechico @anthony111553 @2025cel
@RXnd @moredatesmorerapes

tell me if I am crazy or wrong, anything

 

[ey88]

At least they get to experience something

 

[134applesauce456]

I've had similar thoughts before but as of today I'm already set in life and I can support having a family of 4 myself while retiring early so I decided to have a family in the future.

The only point where you should be planning on having a family is if you're going to be well off in life (job opportunities or your family is already doing well) or already well off in life. I personally want to give another human the wonderful experience I've had in this life myself but I understand your reasoning.

Interesting but the thing is, no matter how financial set you are you can't stop the misfortunes of life from happening


freak accidents like car crashes , diseases / illness like cancer or an autoimmune disease or paralysis


or your children getting randomly murdered or beat up and left with traumatic brain injury turning them into a vegetable


they will also have to deal with grief and death and all the pain of this world

you think it's worth it? because right now I think the pain outweighs the good heavily

 

[134applesauce456]

At least they get to experience something

i'd rather feel nothing at all then live life as a vegetable man... i just don't get it

 

[looks>books]

When I look around I see so much suffering, so much families grieving , the worst things in life happening to people.

I see people getting murdered, kidnapped, tortured, left with traumatic brain injuries, paralysis, debilitating illness, the list goes on and on

I also see people simply being born into a worse quality of living , people being born with severe mental illness or severe disabilities , people being born with no limbs or deformity, complete body paralysis, unable to function without a machine, the horrors can go on and on and on and on

Families have to deal and grieve with seeing their loved ones like this (if it isn't them, themselves in that condition)

I honestly don't know I got so lucky to not have those things happen to me, I deserve it way more than the people it happens to.

I am scared of the future, I know the worse is yet to come.

I honestly believe no one in this life has it lucky, this world is hellish. You might have a good life now but the life you are living is far from guaranteed. You can have everything ripped away from you in a second. I am scared


Sorry for this long rant but I have been feeling very nihilistic today idk why.

Anyways to sum it up basically i'm scared and I don't like this world and I don't want to bring people into , they will just suffer inevitably

Please let's discuss in the replies, I am still a Christian but obviously I struggle with faith, I don't want to stop believing because it gives me so much hope

Sin and free will

But there will always be bad, there is always good too, people seem to forget that

 

[elfin]

Interesting but the thing is, no matter how financial set you are you can't stop the misfortunes of life from happening


freak accidents like car crashes , diseases / illness like cancer or an autoimmune disease or paralysis


or your children getting randomly murdered or beat up and left with traumatic brain injury turning them into a vegetable


they will also have to deal with grief and death and all the pain of this world

you think it's worth it? because right now I think the pain outweighs the good heavily

Everything has it's risk and we ourselves risk everything to experience the joy we have in this life as of now.

The interactions i have with my loved ones I'll say is worth risking my life over for it.

The joy of eating your favorite food while risking of triggering your diabetes is for me worth it.

It's all about the experience we'll have and for me nothing is more tragic than not being able to experience this just because we risk of having this journey come to an end.

 

[134applesauce456]

Sin and free will

But there will always be bad, there is always good too, people seem to forget that

is being born with deformity or disorders like spinal
muscular atrophy (look it up) a result of sin and free will?

I'd like to think that by doing good we can save ourselves from the horrors of this world but I mean clearly not, very good people get fucked over by the world all the time. Scariest part is I know I deserve it more I just can understand w world is so brutalll.

 

[looks>books]

is being born with deformity or disorders like spinal
muscular atrophy (look it up) a result of sin and free will?

I'd like to think that by doing good we can save ourselves from the horrors of this world but I mean clearly not, very good people get fucked over by the world all the time. Scariest part is I know I deserve it more I just can understand w world is so brutalll.

Yes

Sometimes its a test, sometimes idk the answer, onyl God knows

How old are you?

I think all Christians have this phase growing up. Im guessing youre younger than 20

Heres a thread:

Blackpill debunked (hopeposting)

If Jesus wasnt real and we are all just some evolution mistake then life is useless. All love is conditonal (even your parents love) and life is this input-output fucked up transactional machine. Men will only be loved for what they can provide, once thats gone, you are nothing. Your worth is...

looksmax.org

In the end you grow out of it

God is real not because oh boohoo i want something to look forward to, it just makes sense with evidence (dont even @ me athiest im not gonna reply).

Basically

1. God exist

And

2. Some stuff doesnt make sense, we dont know the answer, thats ok tho, doesnt change the evidence and the overall message (be like Jesus, pure selflessness, love people)

 

[134applesauce456]

Everything has it's risk and we ourselves risk everything to experience the joy we have in this life as of now.

The interactions i have with my loved ones I'll say is worth risking my life over for it.

The joy of eating your favorite food while risking of triggering your diabetes is for me worth it.

It's all about the experience we'll have and for me nothing is more tragic than not being able to experience this just because we risk of having this journey come to an end.

I somewhat agree with this, thanks for sharing

but then again what if it was different? what if you or your child were born with 80% body paralysis or born with a brain disorder. or what if it happens in your later life due to accident or disease, would it still be worth it? Risking your life is too easy, death is peaceful , I am more so referring to the literal torture and suffering that could happen to you as your body fails. Is it still worth it?

But of course that's all theoretical, let's talk about death of loved ones which is guaranteed to happen
All the joy and memories built up with your loved ones, in the end, they will inevitably be taken away from you through death and you are painfully reminded that you will never seem them again (unless there is an afterlife perhaps, no guarante ) ? I mean all those memories will just turn into pain as you are reminded of what you will never have again. It's like this life builds you up with joy just to take it all away from you , giving you a greater fall.

what do you think? is it still worth it? but I really admire your mindset you are much better than me

 

[looks>books]

I somewhat agree with this, thanks for sharing

but then again what if it was different? what if you or your child were born with 80% body paralysis or born with a brain disorder. or what if it happens in your later life due to accident or disease, would it still be worth it? Risking your life is too easy, death is peaceful , I am more so referring to the literal torture and suffering that could happen to you as your body fails. Is it still worth it?

But of course that's all theoretical, let's talk about death of loved ones which is guaranteed to happen
All the joy and memories built up with your loved ones, in the end, they will inevitably be taken away from you through death and you are painfully reminded that you will never seem them again (unless there is an afterlife perhaps, no guarante ) ? I mean all those memories will just turn into pain as you are reminded of what you will never have again. It's like this life builds you up with joy just to take it all away from you , giving you a greater fall.

what do you think? is it still worth it? but I really admire your mindset you are much better than me

Life isnt fair

 

[134applesauce456]

Yes

Sometimes its a test, sometimes idk the answer, onyl God knows

How old are you?

I think all Christians have this phase growing up. Im guessing youre younger than 20

Heres a thread:

Blackpill debunked (hopeposting)

If Jesus wasnt real and we are all just some evolution mistake then life is useless. All love is conditonal (even your parents love) and life is this input-output fucked up transactional machine. Men will only be loved for what they can provide, once thats gone, you are nothing. Your worth is...

looksmax.org

In the end you grow out of it

God is real not because oh boohoo i want something to look forward to, it just makes sense with evidence (dont even @ me athiest im not gonna reply).

Basically

1. God exist

And

2. Some stuff doesnt make sense, we dont know the answer, thats ok tho, doesnt change the evidence and the overall message (be like Jesus, pure selflessness, love people)

I would really love for that to be the truth

I am 16 btw

But i've been seeing some tragic stories online and I feel so sorry for some people, I understand why they claim God doesn't love them or has failed them. Some really brutal things happen and I mean it would be really hard to maintain a positive outlook on life after all the stuff that happened to them, even I would lose some faith as well. I try really hard to not lose my hope and I pray + read my bible every day but I am slowly losing it

Idk i'm just scared of the torture I will go through in this world, I am a pretty sensitive person and misfortune just seems inevitable

I really hope deep down in my heart that God exist, he loves us, and he cares about us. I know that he would have a far a greater understanding of this world and reasoning for why tragedies happen. I mean he would be morally superior to us, so I guess we just have to trust him and endure all the trials and tribulations we will go through

 

[134applesauce456]

Life isnt fair

yep life never was fair and it never will be

but i don't mean relatively , its like life isn't fair for ANYONE

like I truly believe everyone on this Earth will experience immense pain, we are probably doomed but we need to stay strong

 

[looks>books]

I would really love for that to be the truth

I am 16 btw

But i've been seeing some tragic stories online and I feel so sorry for some people, I understand why they claim God doesn't love them or hasn't failed them. Some really brutal things happend and I mean it would be really hard to maintain a positive outlook on life after all the stuff that happened to them, even I would lose some faith as well. I try really hard to not lose my hope and I pray + read my bible every day but I am slowly losing it

Idk i'm just scared of the torture I will go through in this world, I am a pretty sensitive person and misfortune just seems inevitable

I really hope deep down in my heart that God exist, he loves us, and he cares about us. I know that he would have a far a greater understanding of this world and reasoning for why tragedies happen. I mean he would be morally superior to us, so I guess we just have to trust him and endure all the trials and tribulations we will go through

Theres no hope God exists, dont blindly be a Christian. Ask for evidence, look for evidence and ask him to reveal himself to you.

Life isnt fair, bad stuff is gonna happen. Worse stuff is gonna happen to other people. Maybe it will happen to you. Maybe better stuff is gonna happen, but its all planned. They took it whether they wanted to or not and then died. Same as everyone else and every other animal.

Are you catholic? I suggest to try another church until you really feel the presence of God, he isn’t always there in the catholic church.

 

[elfin]

I somewhat agree with this, thanks for sharing

but then again what if it was different? what if you or your child were born with 80% body paralysis or born with a brain disorder. or what if it happens in your later life due to accident or disease, would it still be worth it? Risking your life is too easy, death is peaceful , I am more so referring to the literal torture and suffering that could happen to you as your body fails. Is it still worth it?

But of course that's all theoretical, let's talk about death of loved ones which is guaranteed to happen
All the joy and memories built up with your loved ones, in the end, they will inevitably be taken away from you through death and you are painfully reminded that you will never seem them again (unless there is an afterlife perhaps, no guarante ) ? I mean all those memories will just turn into pain as you are reminded of what you will never have again. It's like this life builds you up with joy just to take it all away from you , giving you a greater fall.

what do you think? is it still worth it? but I really admire your mindset you are much better than me

I'll talk about the first point which is what if your child suffers a long suffering "death", this is still a difficult topic even for me but it depends for me.
If let's say my kid is already braindead and in a comatose state I will let her die in peace. But if she is conscious and can still smile I will still be grateful that I will see my kids smile once again, there is nothing you can do but give your child the best possible life they could've had no matter what they are.

And to the next point you had I've personally experienced this as I've dealt with grief just last year. I came to a realization that rather than being scared to the idea of having to say goodbye to them you should instead be happy that they made you for who you are as of today.

It's all about the outlook you have in life that determines how much grief and sadness you'll experience in this world although I cannot really tell you that since I'm not denying that I am privileged myself.

I just think to myself that the millions of interactions and memories that one will or could make outweighs the fleeting moments we have on this planet.

I've had similar thoughts as a Christian myself but I suggest you practice gratitude in life daily and really look into topics such as this. You wouldn't regret it.

I really hope you find your peace.

 

[134applesauce456]

Theres no hope God exists, dont blindly be a Christian. Ask for evidence, look for evidence and ask him to reveal himself to you.

Not sure what you mean by this

So if we aren't 100% sure God exists we shouldn't be Christian ? I mean I'm not sure that's 100% a good outlook on it, Christian values will contribute to a better life for all of us collectively, creating a superior society (just imagine if everyone acted similar to Jesus) So I don't think you should shut people out of the religion just because their faith isn't 100% there, it's a journey I think my faith will grow overtime. Let's accept everyone into Christianity no matter what

Also I am non denominational. I don't think God would care about the denominational stuff, I feel like dividing Christianity was a mistake. It was just one of the many ways we wrongfully separated ourselves and discriminated against eachother. We are humans and we will inevitably have different interpretations of God and the world, don't let that divide us, we are in this together. What if the real truth was just a blend of all the denominations, each denomination may have some truths and may have some misinterpretations , again who knows! Heck what if the real God was a blend of all the religions lol. Again i'm just talking out of my ass idk


but at the end of the day I agree with you , life isn't fair and we might get the short end of the stick but we just need to deal with it and persevere. I guess I am just being irrationally scared, it's pretty good to know that if I do go through some suffering , I am not alone and other people have suffered and endured what I have or even worse. But no matter what happens to me I will try to never lose faith and always show gratitude to God. It just kind of hits hard seeing other people suffer so much because I love and want the best for everyone , I just can't understand why they go through what they go through and I want to take the pain away from them

sorry for this long schizo essay damn, but yea thats just my thoughts, what do you think? correct me if I am wrong because idk a lot about religion

 

[134applesauce456]

I'll talk about the first point which is what if your child suffers a long suffering "death", this is still a difficult topic even for me but it depends for me.
If let's say my kid is already braindead and in a comatose state I will let her die in peace. But if she is conscious and can still smile I will still be grateful that I will see my kids smile once again, there is nothing you can do but give your child the best possible life they could've had no matter what they are.

And to the next point you had I've personally experienced this as I've dealt with grief just last year. I came to a realization that rather than being scared to the idea of having to say goodbye to them you should instead be happy that they made you for who you are as of today.

It's all about the outlook you have in life that determines how much grief and sadness you'll experience in this world although I cannot really tell you that since I'm not denying that I am privileged myself.

I just think to myself that the millions of interactions and memories that one will or could make outweighs the fleeting moments we have on this planet.

I've had similar thoughts as a Christian myself but I suggest you practice gratitude in life daily and really look into topics such as this. You wouldn't regret it.

I really hope you find your peace.

Thank you for being so kind, I really love your mindset and I am sorry for your loss btw. I will try and adapt this mindset

 

[looks>books]

Not sure what you mean by this

So if we aren't 100% sure God exists we shouldn't be Christian ? I mean I'm not sure that's 100% a good outlook on it, Christian values will contribute to a better life for all of us collectively, creating a superior society (just imagine if everyone acted similar to Jesus) So I don't think you should shut people out of the religion just because their faith isn't 100% there, it's a journey I think my faith will grow overtime. Let's accept everyone into Christianity no matter what

Also I am non denominational. I don't think God would care about the denominational stuff, I feel like dividing Christianity was a mistake. It was just one of the many ways we wrongfully separated ourselves and discriminated against eachother. We are humans and we will inevitably have different interpretations of God and the world, don't let that divide us, we are in this together. What if the real truth was just a blend of all the denominations, each denomination may have some truths and may have some misinterpretations , again who knows! Heck what if the real God was a blend of all the religions lol. Again i'm just talking out of my ass idk


but at the end of the day I agree with you , life isn't fair and we might get the short end of the stick but we just need to deal with it and persevere. I guess I am just being irrationally scared, it's pretty good to know that if I do go through some suffering , I am not alone and other people have suffered and endured what I have or even worse. But no matter what happens to me I will try to never lose faith and always show gratitude to God. It just kind of hits hard seeing other people suffer so much because I love and want the best for everyone , I just can't understand why they go through what they go through and I want to take the pain away from them

sorry for this long schizo essay damn, but yea thats just my thoughts, what do you think? correct me if I am wrong because idk a lot about religion

No im saying the reason you should be Christian should not just be because you hope for a heaven or you were raised Christian, it should be because of the evidence and God working in your life, but also yes we should all be like Jesus.

 

[superpsycho]

the only way it is justifiable to bring kids into today’s world is if you have top 15% genetics or if ur giga rich. otherwise you would be doing your future kid an exteme disservice so it would just be better not to have him at all than to provide him with a life as a sub 8. this world has become a fucking shit-show in every aspect. the rich are only gonna get richer, the poor are only gonna get poorer, women are getting more hypergamous by the day, and our earth is slowly deteriorating due to normfag habits. to bring a kid into this world with the way it is today is the ultimate cuck in itself.

also you’re correct, this world is full of horrors. from a simple burgulary to being full on raped, anything can happen to you at any moment. when something tragic happens to another person, not only does it affect them, but their loved ones as well. one person’s suffering always leads to another’s. not only do you run the risk of a tragic event happening to you, but so does everyone you love.

tomorrow is never guaranteed, but that is part of what makes me happy. my shitty incel subhuman life can end at any point in time for whatever reason and that is honestly something im looking forward too. the lifepill is truly brutal as fuck. there are so many things factors that go into the life you live. your genetics, neurotypicality, place of birth, family, and your environment are all law. if you’re born as a manlet, theres no point to life. if you’re born autistic/aspie, theres no point to life. if you’re born in a poor 3rd world shit hole with shit life quality that makes you into a subhuman, theres no point in life. if you’re born into an abusive family that makes you an abused dog, theres no point to life. if you are lacking in any of these things it’s over and you’ll be set up for a dogshit life, and they have to suffer through all of it just because they were born. the odds of you ever being born are 1 in 400,000,000,000,000 but no one is truly living unless they are born into the proper life that sets them up for success. some people have such brutal lives that they would have been more fortunate to not exist at all than to live the life they do.

even then, even the top 10% of people aren’t safe from the brutality of life. they are still regular humans like the rest of us. even if they mog you to death and have way higher status than you ever will, we all bleed red at the end of the day. no matter how high your smv is, or how hard you mog, or how rich you are, it can all be taken away from you in a heartbeat, you could be paralyzed, lose all their money, go to prison, or be murdered in cold blood. doesn’t matter who or what you are, nothing is permanent.

only the best of the best should reproduce. if you decide to reproduce you better pray you do not have a son, otherwise you’re sentencing an innocent being to a shit life if he ends up being sub 8 and/or a disabledcel. atleast if you have a daughter she has a shot at a decent life no matter what her genetics or socioeconomic status is like.

if you are given the curse of life, don’t pass that curse down to future generations if you know you’re genes are trash and/or you’re giga low iq and non NT. life is not fair by any means, but that is what gives the best of the best the advantage for the best life possible. for there to be kings, there also has to be peasants. although the best of the best still won’t be safe from the brutality of life, atleast they lived a life of enjoyment and prosperity, something a sub 8 could never do.

basically, if you’re going to go through a long life at all, you might as well do it only if you are at the top of the hierarchy of life, or don’t do it at all. the average joe was never meant to win in life, but instead they were meant to work for the people who were more genetically gifted than them. if you’re life was even partially brutal, don’t even think of reproducing, for they could suffer an equally bad or worse fate. some people are living while others are just trying to stay alive, and that is basically it. life is just a game of luck and that’s all it has ever been. we are so insignificant in the grand scheme of things anyway so nothing we do really matters when it’s all said and done.

just a lil thought

 

[looks>books]

And good job having empathy and caring for the less fortunate, we don’t have much of that these days.

It will all work out in the end, basically you have to just thug it out, and God will be there with you no matter what you face.

 

[Muttcel foid killer]

When I look around I see so much suffering, so much families grieving , the worst things in life happening to people.

I see people getting murdered, kidnapped, tortured, left with traumatic brain injuries, paralysis, debilitating illness, the list goes on and on

I also see people simply being born into a worse quality of living , people being born with severe mental illness or severe disabilities , people being born with no limbs or deformity, complete body paralysis, unable to function without a machine, the horrors can go on and on and on and on

Families have to deal and grieve with seeing their loved ones like this (if it isn't them, themselves in that condition)

I honestly don't know I got so lucky to not have those things happen to me, I deserve it way more than the people it happens to.

I am scared of the future, I know the worse is yet to come.

I honestly believe no one in this life has it lucky, this world is hellish. You might have a good life now but the life you are living is far from guaranteed. You can have everything ripped away from you in a second. I am scared


Sorry for this long rant but I have been feeling very nihilistic today idk why.

Anyways to sum it up basically i'm scared and I don't like this world and I don't want to bring people into , they will just suffer inevitably

Please let's discuss in the replies, I am still a Christian but obviously I struggle with faith, I don't want to stop believing because it gives me so much hope

Gaaaaaay

 

[buddhistking]

Turn to Buddhism broski it's the least pro-natalist of all major world religions you'll find some truths there

 

[looks>books]

Turn to Buddhism broski it's the least pro-natalist of all major world religions you'll find some truths there

Buddhism aint even a religion, it more of a way of life

Its basically just stoicism, which is water

 

[buddhistking]

Buddhism aint even a religion, it more of a way of life

Yeah I know but most ppl see it as a religion and I got tired of explaining this so I just call it a non-theistic religion to others

 

[looks>books]

Buddhism teachings:

“
Moral precepts Do not kill living things, Do not take what is not given, Do not engage in sexual misconduct, Do not lie, and Do not use drugs or alcohol.

Right livelihood

• • Earn a living in a way that is legal, peaceful, and promotes compassion, understanding, and awareness

Right mindfulness

• • Be aware and attentive of your body, feelings, thoughts, and ideas”
  
  
  
  
  Oh nah, really??!!

Groundbreaking info

 

[134applesauce456]

the only way it is justifiable to bring kids into today’s world is if you have top 15% genetics or if ur giga rich. otherwise you would be doing your future kid an exteme disservice so it would just be better not to have him at all than to provide him with a life as a sub 8. this world has become a fucking shit-show in every aspect. the rich are only gonna get richer, the poor are only gonna get poorer, women are getting more hypergamous by the day, and our earth is slowly deteriorating due to normfag habits. to bring a kid into this world with the way it is today is the ultimate cuck in itself.

also you’re correct, this world is full of horrors. from a simple burgulary to being full on raped, anything can happen to you at any moment. when something tragic happens to another person, not only does it affect them, but their loved ones as well. one person’s suffering always leads to another’s. not only do you run the risk of a tragic event happening to you, but so does everyone you love.

tomorrow is never guaranteed, but that is part of what makes me happy. my shitty incel subhuman life can end at any point in time for whatever reason and that is honestly something im looking forward too. the lifepill is truly brutal as fuck. there are so many things factors that go into the life you live. your genetics, neurotypicality, place of birth, family, and your environment are all law. if you’re born as a manlet, theres no point to life. if you’re born autistic/aspie, theres no point to life. if you’re born in a poor 3rd world shit hole with shit life quality that makes you into a subhuman, theres no point in life. if you’re born into an abusive family that makes you an abused dog, theres no point to life. if you are lacking in any of these things it’s over and you’ll be set up for a dogshit life, and they have to suffer through all of it just because they were born. the odds of you ever being born are 1 in 400,000,000,000,000 but no one is truly living unless they are born into the proper life that sets them up for success. some people have such brutal lives that they would have been more fortunate to not exist at all than to live the life they do.

even then, even the top 10% of people aren’t safe from the brutality of life. they are still regular humans like the rest of us. even if they mog you to death and have way higher status than you ever will, we all bleed red at the end of the day. no matter how high your smv is, or how hard you mog, or how rich you are, it can all be taken away from you in a heartbeat, you could be paralyzed, lose all their money, go to prison, or be murdered in cold blood. doesn’t matter who or what you are, nothing is permanent.

only the best of the best should reproduce. if you decide to reproduce you better pray you do not have a son, otherwise you’re sentencing an innocent being to a shit life if he ends up being sub 8 and/or a disabledcel. atleast if you have a daughter she has a shot at a decent life no matter what her genetics or socioeconomic status is like.

if you are given the curse of life, don’t pass that curse down to future generations if you know you’re genes are trash and/or you’re giga low iq and non NT. life is not fair by any means, but that is what gives the best of the best the advantage for the best life possible. for there to be kings, there also has to be peasants. although the best of the best still won’t be safe from the brutality of life, atleast they lived a life of enjoyment and prosperity, something a sub 8 could never do.

basically, if you’re going to go through a long life at all, you might as well do it only if you are at the top of the hierarchy of life, or don’t do it at all. the average joe was never meant to win in life, but instead they were meant to work for the people who were more genetically gifted than them. if you’re life was even partially brutal, don’t even think of reproducing, for they could suffer an equally bad or worse fate. some people are living while others are just trying to stay alive, and that is basically it. life is just a game of luck and that’s all it has ever been. we are so insignificant in the grand scheme of things anyway so nothing we do really matters when it’s all said and done.

just a lil thought

Thanks for your input, I read everything and for the most part I really agree with you , your explanation is exactly why this world breaks my heart so bad to the point where I consider a suicide to help escape from it. It genuinely seems like death is our salvation, as I feel it is better to be dead and at peace than in a world like this (sometimes). I genuinely feel bad for everyone stuck in this world , for all the humans alive right now. I just feel like the worst is yet to come. Sometimes I think we were a mistake. We are legit just animals with so much feeling, intellectual ability, and deep thoughts, too much. It should NOT be like that because we are nothing in the grand scheme of things (possibly).

However, I have a decently conflicting view of life as well, I am trying to be religious and I am on my journey to Christianity. It basically conflicts everything I just said up there lol. The idea of a God that loves us and made us with a purpose is very comforting, so even if it's cope I will try to delude myself and have hope. I mentioned before that God would be morally superior to us and have reasoning far greater than our understanding. So maybe things happen for a reason that just doesn't make sense right now, but later we will understand.
I don't like having the mindset that I discussed in the first paragraph, so I want to start showing gratitude and being thankful for ALL of the world , even through all the good AND the bad. I mean there is simply no changing it, we just need to love and accept it as it is, no matter what happens to us. We will be happier than way. I really wish I could take everyone's pain away and make the world "ideal" but hey maybe my vision of ideal isn't even what's best for us idk! At the end of the day I like to think God has a plan for us, I will put my hope in him

I know this was really confusing , I am in a state of confusion right now lol

 

[looks>books]

Thanks for your input, I read everything and for the most part I really agree with you , your explanation is exactly why this world breaks my heart so bad to the point where I consider a suicide to help escape from it. It genuinely seems like death is our salvation, as I feel it is better to be dead and at peace than in a world like this (sometimes). I genuinely feel bad for everyone stuck in this world , for all the humans alive right now. I just feel like the worst is yet to come. Sometimes I think we were a mistake. We are legit just animals with so much feeling, intellectual ability, and deep thoughts, too much. It should NOT be like that because we are nothing in the grand scheme of things (possibly).

However, I have a decently conflicting view of life as well, I am trying to be religious and I am on my journey to Christianity. It basically conflicts everything I just said up there lol. The idea of a God that loves us and made us with a purpose is very comforting, so even if it's cope I will try to delude myself and have hope. I mentioned before that God would be morally superior to us and have reasoning far greater than our understanding. So maybe things happen for a reason that just doesn't make sense right now, but later we will understand.
I don't like having the mindset that I discussed in the first paragraph, so I want to start showing gratitude and being thankful for ALL of the world , even through all the good AND the bad. I mean there is simply no changing it, we just need to love and accept it as it is, no matter what happens to us. We will be happier than way. I really wish I could take everyone's pain away and make the world "ideal" but hey maybe my vision of ideal isn't even what's best for us idk! At the end of the day I like to think God has a plan for us, I will put my hope in him

I know this was really confusing , I am in a state of confusion right now lol

What are you confused about?

 

[buddhistking]

Buddhism teachings:

“
Moral precepts Do not kill living things, Do not take what is not given, Do not engage in sexual misconduct, Do not lie, and Do not use drugs or alcohol.

Right livelihood

• • Earn a living in a way that is legal, peaceful, and promotes compassion, understanding, and awareness

Right mindfulness

• • Be aware and attentive of your body, feelings, thoughts, and ideas”
  
  
  
  
  Oh nah, really??!!

Much more complicated than just this basic moral shit stop oversimplifying shit nigga

 

[looks>books]

Much more complicated than just this basic moral shit stop oversimplifying shit nigga

Yes the reincarnation stuff but that has no historical evidence.

Without that then its just another religion, telling you basic morality. Every religion says to do good things, I have not heard any historical evidence of buddhism’s events actually happening.

 

[Nameless King]

When I look around I see so much suffering, so much families grieving , the worst things in life happening to people.

I see people getting murdered, kidnapped, tortured, left with traumatic brain injuries, paralysis, debilitating illness, the list goes on and on

I also see people simply being born into a worse quality of living , people being born with severe mental illness or severe disabilities , people being born with no limbs or deformity, complete body paralysis, unable to function without a machine, the horrors can go on and on and on and on

Families have to deal and grieve with seeing their loved ones like this (if it isn't them, themselves in that condition)

I honestly don't know I got so lucky to not have those things happen to me, I deserve it way more than the people it happens to.

I am scared of the future, I know the worse is yet to come.

I honestly believe no one in this life has it lucky, this world is hellish. You might have a good life now but the life you are living is far from guaranteed. You can have everything ripped away from you in a second. I am scared


Sorry for this long rant but I have been feeling very nihilistic today idk why.

Anyways to sum it up basically i'm scared and I don't like this world and I don't want to bring people into , they will just suffer inevitably

Please let's discuss in the replies, I am still a Christian but obviously I struggle with faith, I don't want to stop believing because it gives me so much hope

you might change your mind one day bro

suffering is inevitable but it’s part of what makes this little gift of experience so precious

 

[134applesauce456]

Sin and free will

But there will always be bad, there is always good too, people seem to forget that

I also have a question about something

What about people with mental illness ? are they considered bad people ? because on a biological level there is something messed up with their brain, making them act irrational , lack empathy , etc


cases were mentally ill/insane people hurt others is so confusing and frustrating because you can't really blame them can you? I mean we don't know what's going on in their heads, what they are feeling. I pray I never get to such a bad state where I feel the need to hurt people but anything could happen?

Also people who turn into bad people due to abuse or being treated like shit their childhood. I feel very bad for them it's just a cycle of pain

I think no one is inherently bad it just a mixture of their nurture + nature

 

[buddhistking]

Yes the reincarnation stuff but that has no historical evidence.

Without that then its just another religion, telling you basic morality. Every religion says to do good things, I have not heard any historical evidence of buddhism’s events actually happening.

No nigga I'm talking about the teachings itself they are different in their moral codes and teachings from other major religions + buddha didn't reincarnate he broke the cycle of samsara

Again nigga dont talk shit about shit u don't know about nigga

 

[134applesauce456]

you might change your mind one day bro

suffering is inevitable but it’s part of what makes this little gift of experience so precious

yes I like this mindset, I am trying to change . thanks for the input

it's just that some days , it feels like the suffering outweighs the good

I mean it's even directly in our biology for bad experiences to take much more of a toll/influence on us than good experiences. The human brain tends to focus on the bad and ignore the good

Would you take 1 hour of the worst pain imaginable to feel 1 hour of the best happiness imaginable ? I wouldn't and most agree

 

[DarkTriadBeliever]

I promise to bring kids into this world no matter what. To live is to suffer, the only rest you get is when you die

 

[Nameless King]

yes I like this mindset, I am trying to change . thanks for the input

it's just that some days , it feels like the suffering outweighs the good

I mean it's even directly in our biology for bad experiences to take much more of a toll/influence on us than good experiences. The human brain tends to focus on the bad and ignore the good

Would you take 1 hour of the worst pain imaginable to feel 1 hour of the best happiness imaginable ? I wouldn't and most agree

it definitely seems like the suffering outweighs the good exactly because of what you said

all you see in the news is a compilation of the world’s worst suffering

in the age of social media a lot of people build their brand by convincing others they are suffering, and selling them a solution

there’s so much joy to be found in the simple things even if it’s not conducive of how our brains are naturally wired

 

[134applesauce456]

I promise to bring kids into this world no matter what, to live is to suffer, the only rest you get is when you die

I don't get it. if living is suffering , why would I bring other humans along into the world to suffer with me ? (with me until I die and leave them even more hurt of course)

 

[looks>books]

No nigga I'm talking about the teachings itself they are different in their moral codes and teachings from other major religions + buddha didn't reincarnate he broke the cycle of samsara

Again nigga dont talk shit about shit u don't know about nigga

Is there strong evidence he did this?

How is their moral code different from any other religion?

 

[looks>books]

I also have a question about something

What about people with mental illness ? are they considered bad people ? because on a biological level there is something messed up with their brain, making them act irrational , lack empathy , etc


cases were mentally ill/insane people hurt others is so confusing and frustrating because you can't really blame them can you? I mean we don't know what's going on in their heads, what they are feeling. I pray I never get to such a bad state where I feel the need to hurt people but anything could happen?

Also people who turn into bad people due to abuse or being treated like shit their childhood. I feel very bad for them it's just a cycle of pain

I think no one is inherently bad it just a mixture of their nurture + nature

Sin is inside everyone, no one is perfect.

But cause and effect still exist, and bad events can cause bad actions. Still, bad people come from good events all the time, because of sin.

 

[looks>books]

I don't get it. if living is suffering , why would I bring other humans along into the world to suffer with me ? (with me until I die and leave them even more hurt of course)

Theres suffering and there is also great joy. The only reason i’d see this arguement being valid is maybe a war torn poverty ridden country, but even then there is still joy within them. Theres always laughing and good times within wars, just not as much as peace time obviously.

 

[134applesauce456]

it definitely seems like the suffering outweighs the good exactly because of what you said

all you see in the news is a compilation of the world’s worst suffering

in the age of social media a lot of people build their brand by convincing others they are suffering, and selling them a solution

there’s so much joy to be found in the simple things even if it’s not conducive of how our brains are naturally wired

You think that social media gives an inflated view of how much suffering there really is ? I think that could be very true tbh. All the upsetting stories I hear about are 95% from social media. It still shows that it happens though , but maybe it's not as common as I make it out to be.

how do I train my brain to find joy in simple things? I am going to try and start practicing gratitude

 

[134applesauce456]

Theres suffering and there is also great joy. The only reason i’d see this arguement being valid is maybe a war torn poverty ridden country, but even then there is still joy within them. Theres always laughing and good times within wars, just not as much as peace time obviously.

Do you think the joy outweighs the suffering though ? I think in a lot of the cases it's the opposite unfortunately. That's why I am very hesitant to bring kids into this world, I don't want to be responsible for someone's demise