I think I'm mid tier normie now.

[noodlelover]

I think I'm no longer subhuman. I think I've ascended to normie now, at least.

A cute girl started a conversation with me at the gym today. Girls have hit on me in the past, but only when they'd been drinking.

This felt like flirting, but even if it wasn't I don't think cute girls start conversations with subhumans. And some guys have started conversations with me, which makes me think I at least look like a normal approachable guy.

I started texting a girl back and forth from a dating app too, despite having mostly selfies. I haven't met her yet. But if I have a chance and she's as nice as she seems, I'll be in a relationship with her, instead of locationmaxing.

Even if nothing comes of any of this, it's at least enough validation to make me feel like a person. I think most guys can make it as far as I have with persistence. Times may feel dark, like you've done every looks max possible, but keep looking for flaws to fix and looking for solutions to fix them. I promise you, life may never be a perfect dream life, but it can get better if you keep pushing.

 

[vanillaicecream]

How'd you do it. Im trying to ascend to mid tier subhuman

 

[noodlelover]

How'd you do it. Im trying to ascend to mid tier subhuman

muscles - read a few books on weight lifting, tried many things for many years, and finally found some things that work best for my genetics
bodyfat - I'm around 16% bodyfat according to my scale now. I'm still cutting, but I'm always reading tips on weight loss, and I weigh myself everday. I've done this for two years, and I've had slip ups, but over time I've learned what works better for me, and what foods I need to avoid because they cause cravings and increase appitite. This is the only long term solution imho, because if you don't control appitite, you'll run out of will power.
Tattoos - Getting full sleave tattoo. It's 40% done, but it takes many months with healing time in between appointments.
Nutrition - Read many books on nutrition. Now I eat only veggies and non-processed meats. I've been working in more fish lately, because of all the health benefits.
Stress - Meditation, Optimism, Stretching, relaxing muscles. Stress effects skin quality, muscle growth, fat loss, and even hair quality.
Sleep - read two books on sleep optimization and implemented everything, as well as listened to bunch of advice on youtube. Like muscles, this topic is way too in depth to cover here.
Skin - Started Moisturizing, clensing twice a day, and exfoliating once a day.
Hair - I started using shampoo and conditioner. I really should have done this, but I was just rinsing before, and occasionally I'd use a shampoo + conditioner combo. I've also done minoxidil on it, but I don't think that made a difference. Tried Fin too, but no real difference.
Eyebrows - Minoxidil made them thicker
Mewing - Been mewing for a few years. It's very slow, but I think it's changed my facial shape
Chewing - Chew Mastic Gum when my jaw doesn't feel sore
Fashion & Accessories - Fixed this. Found clothes that compliment my look, face, and personality/vibe.
Vibe - I try to cultivate a friendly vibe. I see others as equals, and possible friends. I think some people can sense this, and it makes a difference.

So Skin and hair were recent fixes, that I think finally pushed me over that limit, for at least good looking enough for some gay guys to hit on me, and possible some positive female attention. I may never be Chad who get's all the girls, but if I can be a regular normie with some IRL friends, and maybe a girlfriend one day, then that's cool with me.

 

[noodlelover]

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I basically look like you, not gonna lie. But my eye brows are not as good.

I am definitely not Chad, or Chadlite or any of that.

 

[Vermilioncore]

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[Enfant terrible]

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[Deleted member 16264]

That’s amazing, congratulations! Thanks for your input. I think mewing is what made you glow up, since having a good maxilla is the first requirement, along with a friendly vibe and friendly expression, for getting approached (if you seem too masculine and serious to them they will think you show off). If you have already cheekbones, you can be considered as a chadlite imho, since that’s what girls consider most attractive in a man, in their subconscious.

This will be my last message here on this site. I just think I should stick to mewing, because the only things that girls look in a guy is a chiselled and prominent jawline, eye colour and PCT and frame

 

[LookmaxBlau]

That is amazing always nice to see someone better themselves and get something from it.

 

[aBetterMii]

Damn, making out da hood

 

[EverythingMattersCel]

That’s amazing, congratulations! Thanks for your input. I think mewing is what made you glow up, since having a good maxilla is the first requirement, along with a friendly vibe and friendly expression, for getting approached (if you seem too masculine and serious to them they will think you show off). If you have already cheekbones, you can be considered as a chadlite imho, since that’s what girls consider most attractive in a man, in their subconscious.

This will be my last message here on this site. I just think I should stick to mewing, because the only things that girls look in a guy is a chiselled and prominent jawline, eye colour and PCT and frame

Jfl @ u greycel thinking that tongue suction gives you forward growth. Forward growth of maxilla inversely correlated with chin height anyways. Trust me you don't you want to catch this heat.

Having a short xhin is a deformity.

 

[Deleted member 16264]

Well in my famil runs prominent chin… I got my face structure from my dad… big bones with an acromegalia dental setup (recessed maxilla, third class malocclusion, which was cured by my dad who is an oral surgeon and dentist). My chin height is high. My whole face sounds masculine even though I’m recessed. For example the level of masculinity of my face can be compared to the one of someone called Jon Eric Hexum, a girl told me I look like him. However the only way for me to be more like a pretty boy is to develop my maxilla, since maxilla is the key for getting desired by most girls

 

[Deleted member 16264]

Jfl @ u greycel thinking that tongue suction gives you forward growth. Forward growth of maxilla inversely correlated with chin height anyways. Trust me you don't you want to catch this heat.

Having a short xhin is a deformity.

Well in my family runs prominent chin… I got my face structure from my dad… big bones with an acromegalia dental setup (recessed maxilla, third class malocclusion, which was cured by my dad who is an oral surgeon and dentist). My chin height is high. My whole face sounds masculine even though I’m recessed. For example the level of masculinity of my face can be compared to the one of someone called Jon Eric Hexum, a girl told me I look like him. However the only way for me to be more like a pretty boy is to develop my maxilla, since maxilla is the key for getting desired by most girls

 

[Deleted member 16036]

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now this guy is mid tier normie

 

[|Daddy_Zygos|]

read a few books on weight lifting

what type of books