I wanna become a gigolo

[plotkun]

Is it realistic to become a gigolo and earn money from sleeping with women as a mid faced 6'2 8 inches fit guy?

 

[MA_ascender]

it's over

 

[imthesupremecel]

you're gonna be the guy who watches in cuck porn

 

[PsychoH]

dont do it dumb dumb.
You're meant for much more then just that loser shit.

 

[Rhinoplastyordie]

Post dick

 

[mrr]

10 inch dick minimum to be gigolo

 

[Brus Wane]

With your looks it's 100% possible.

Especially if you're in a low competition area.

But if you're only targeting women, you'd have to have therapist level conversationalist skills.

They are paying good money for an emotional tampon, charismatic listener and Chad Thundercock all rolled into one.

This is something most wannabe gigolos find out the hard way.

 

[FascisstChad]

No you look like a fucking ogre, the women who hire them are older women who like young looking effeminate boys. Why would they want some Slavic untermensch? It’s a power thing for them.

 

[plotkun]

Why would they want some Slavic untermensch? It’s a power thing for them.

I live in Germany so the answer is obvious

 

[qazw]

The only way you could be a male prostitute is if your clients are also men

 

[spark]

become a porn actor

 

[plotkun]

With your looks it's 100% possible.

Thanks! You mean face or body?

Especially if you're in a low competition area.

I live in a big city famous for its depravity(

But if you're only targeting women, you'd have to have therapist level conversationalist skills.

thanks

They are paying good money for an emotional tampon, charismatic listener and Chad Thundercock all rolled into one.

So emotional labor? It's worse than selling my body

This is something most wannabe gigolos find out the hard way.

I mean it makes sence if you look at hosts

 

[Brus Wane]

Thanks! You mean face or body?

face and height

idk about your body but im assuming you are leanmaxxed with some muscle because that's quite literally the bare minimum for this job

I live in a big city famous for its depravity(

where do u stay? why no share? legit curious now!

thanks

welcome

So emotional labor? It's worse than selling my body

Yes ... women claim they do an unfair share of emotional labour both at home and in the workplace
idk how true this is but it doesn't change the fact that they crave it more than men (btw powerful paying men crave this from high end escorts as well)

think of it this way

mid tier women can get dicked down anytime on tinder... and they can get a proper HTN+ that will treat her well maybe once every 12-13 times

so why would any decent foid pay for this ?

1. Discretion ... if its someone married or a public figure,,, they are not just paying for your time, they are paying for privacy and silence

2. Skill...lots of good looking people arent good in bed/only care about their pleasure...here, you're paid to ignore yours and focus on her's...you probably need to be able to get hard to a 65 year old grandma too...

3. Mental experience ... most of them want to have a good, witty, emotional conversation before getting down and dirty.
Are you able to do that? Have an answer for every question, have a smart and eloquent reply for every opinion, have thought-provoking comments of your own...all while listening to her BS, complaining about her husband, kids, in-laws, job and stuff while you have to make her the "good guy" in her own story... this is much harder than fucking like a pornstar

I mean it makes sence if you look at hosts

yeah maybe you're smarter than I first thought

90% of wannabe gigs think "oh look my dick is above the national average, I've got what it takes"

with that mindset, most of their client base ends up being powerful rich gay men in their 50s

 

[bigbubba]

saw yo ass on 4chan lmaoo

 

[plotkun]

idk about your body but im assuming you are leanmaxxed with some muscle because that's quite literally the bare minimum for this job

Working on it, currently 72kg 15,5%. Wanna do 74 kg 12%. But 72-74 kg 13-15% would be OK too I guess since it's still model build

where do u stay? why no share? legit curious now!

Berlin

think of it this way

mid tier women can get dicked down anytime on tinder... and they can get a proper HTN+ that will treat her well maybe once every 12-13 times

so why would any decent foid pay for this ?

I did some research and it's 3 categories at my opinion and it mostly follows the smoking addiction pipeline

1.Trying out

They just wanna try it because their friend does it.

Ok clients since it's one time thing and they won't pay much but don't expect much either

2.Recreational smokers

OK clients since they pay well but also see a gigolo for who he is and expect to get what they pay for

3.Addicts

If you make a client fall in love with you she will be ready to spend lots of money and expect the bare minimum from you but it's morally dark and very hard to get.

Basically it's a girlfriend who pays for you

1. Discretion ... if its someone married or a public figure,,, they are not just paying for your time, they are paying for privacy and silence

True, but anonymous dating apps exist too/or in case with my city masked sex parties and even hard-core clubs

2. Skill...lots of good looking people arent good in bed/only care about their pleasure...here, you're paid to ignore yours and focus on her's...you probably need to be able to get hard to a 65 year old grandma too...

a girl once told me she'd rather pay escort than go on dating apps because "she wanted to get a good service"

3. Mental experience ... most of them want to have a good, witty, emotional conversation before getting down and dirty.

Yeah, I wouldn't say I'm really good at that but I've got some rizz. Although its rather Celentano's or Tyrion's narcissistic charisma (watered down) rather than prince charming or the guy from 50 shades of grey.

Are you able to do that? Have an answer for every question, have a smart and eloquent reply for every opinion, have thought-provoking comments of your own...all while listening to her BS, complaining about her husband, kids, in-laws, job and stuff

I have experience attending family gatherings, listening the old cunts there and leaving a good impression

while you have to make her the "good guy" in her own story... this is much harder than fucking like a pornstar

I'm a bit psychopathic/autistic. Crying/venting women make my horny and angry. I'm a severely lacking in this field.

yeah maybe you're smarter than I first thought

thanks

90% of wannabe gigs think "oh look my dick is above the national average, I've got what it takes"

with that mindset, most of their client base ends up being powerful rich gay men in their 50s

I mean it's a pain in the ass but it pays well

 

[project chadlite]

i am in disbelief honestly

 

[plotkun]

i am in disbelief honestly

Why

 

[Brus Wane]

Working on it, currently 72kg 15,5%. Wanna do 74 kg 12%. But 72-74 kg 13-15% would be OK too I guess since it's still model build

Hold yourself to high standards if you want to charge top dollar.

Berlin

Is it that depraved?
Do you think there will be a market for this?
Loads of good looking expats in Germany, aren't there?

I did some research and it's 3 categories at my opinion and it mostly follows the smoking addiction pipeline

1.Trying out

They just wanna try it because their friend does it.

Ok clients since it's one time thing and they won't pay much but don't expect much either

2.Recreational smokers

OK clients since they pay well but also see a gigolo for who he is and expect to get what they pay for

3.Addicts

If you make a client fall in love with you she will be ready to spend lots of money and expect the bare minimum from you but it's morally dark and very hard to get.

Basically it's a girlfriend who pays for you

Very interesting...especially thr dark 3rd one...how did you do your research?

True, but anonymous dating apps exist too/or in case with my city masked sex parties and even hard-core clubs

There is a big difference....dates talk....rumours spread.....escorts for the most part keep their mouths shut

a girl once told me she'd rather pay escort than go on dating apps because "she wanted to get a good service"

wow

Yeah, I wouldn't say I'm really good at that but I've got some rizz. Although its rather Celentano's or Tyrion's narcissistic charisma (watered down) rather than prince charming or the guy from 50 shades of grey.

It has to be head and shoulders above your average Berlin guy...how old are you BTW?

I have experience attending family gatherings, listening the old cunts there and leaving a good impression

I'm a bit psychopathic/autistic. Crying/venting women make my horny and angry. I'm a severely lacking in this field.

That's not a good thing.

You have to make people comfortable around you in the first 10 seconds upon meeting.

And make people like you and want to know you better in the next 2 minutes.

This is what makes the big bucks and keeps the Euros flowing.

thanks

I mean it's a pain in the ass but it pays well

JFL

 

[plotkun]

Hold yourself to high standards if you want to charge top dollar.

Is it that depraved?

Yes, it really depends on the neighborhood and how depraved you are. But the type of people who hires escorts is fairly depraved.

Do you think there will be a market for this?

Hard to tell.

Loads of good looking expats in Germany, aren't there?

Meh. I mean yes, but not really. People just know how to take care of themselves. In my experience, the 6/10 guy in America is 5/10 here.

Very interesting...especially thr dark 3rd one...how did you do your research?

I talked to some girls who hire escorts regularly or semi regularly, watched a lot of materials on YouTube and asked my uncle who has some first-hand experience. He isn't an escort, just a guy who has 4-5 girlfriends.

It has to be head and shoulders above your average Berlin guy...how old are you BTW?

I'm 20. The average young berlin guy is a bit of a soyboy, hipster and doesn't really care about anything. A kind of guy who smokes weed in a public park and is really chill

That's not a good thing.

Yeah...

You have to make people comfortable around you in the first 10 seconds upon meeting.

I get this part right, its just tiring to constantly play a good person when i dont really care

And make people like you and want to know you better in the next 2 minutes.

I can do that too but I get really tired after half an hour of playing and wanna go home

This is what makes the big bucks and keeps the Euros flowing.

Yeah. It's about charming girls after all

JFL

money doesn't smell. It hurts

 

[Brus Wane]

Yes, it really depends on the neighborhood and how depraved you are. But the type of people who hires escorts is fairly depraved.

That's not a good thing.

You don't want to deal with freaks, you want lonely and easygoing divorced women in their 40s.

Hard to tell.

Better find out.

i was considering it at one point because theres literally no competition in my country but i decided i do not fit the requirements.

Meh. I mean yes, but not really. People just know how to take care of themselves. In my experience, the 6/10 guy in America is 5/10 here.

Ouch. High standards.

I talked to some girls who hire escorts regularly or semi regularly, watched a lot of materials on YouTube and asked my uncle who has some first-hand experience. He isn't an escort, just a guy who has 4-5 girlfriends.

You should ask them how these escorts look and behave.

I'm 20. The average young berlin guy is a bit of a soyboy, hipster and doesn't really care about anything. A kind of guy who smokes weed in a public park and is really chill

You look like you're late 20s to early 30s.
Not a bad thing because from what I can tell, the women who hire gigolos don't want someone too young.

3-6 years younger than them is usually what the older ones want.

Then they shy 20 year old guy would want someone who is around 29-30 ish.

I can do that too but I get really tired after half an hour of playing and wanna go home

Emotional labour...thats what im talking about...think of an air steward on a 10 hour flight...the job is to act all friendly and make people feel safe, secure and comfortable the whole way...really draining shit...

 

[plotkun]

That's not a good thing.

Freaks usually can't afford escorts anyways

You don't want to deal with freaks, you want lonely and easygoing divorced women in their 40s.

Actaully I'd rather have young (20-25) girls with attachment issues since they are easier to bewitch.

Better find out.

Probably not although I think could do it in a smaller city.

i was considering it at one point because theres literally no competition in my country but i decided i do not fit the requirements.

Which country? And what requirements?

Ouch. High standards.

Yeah. I mean I reagualrly see nigh model-tier people on the streets, even men.

You should ask them how these escorts look and behave.

Probably. Missed out on that.

You look like you're late 20s to early 30s.
Not a bad thing because from what I can tell, the women who hire gigolos don't want someone too young.

on the escort websites 30ish looking were the most pricy ones. German women generally have a taste for older strong men. till lindemann 20-30 years ago for example

Then the shy 20 year old guy would want someone who is around 29-30 ish.

I up to 35 is fine

Emotional labour...thats what im talking about...think of an air steward on a 10 hour flight...the job is to act all friendly and make people feel safe, secure and comfortable the whole way...really draining shit...

Its basically a salesmen job except you sell your dick

 

[Brus Wane]

Actaully I'd rather have young (20-25) girls with attachment issues since they are easier to bewitch.

Most would have BFs.
The only young ones that you'd get are extremely shy, picky and ugly.

Probably not although I think could do it in a smaller city.

But could a smaller city afford to pay for this?
I thought youd target bankers and other highly paid professional women in their late 30s and 40s who dont want the effort of finding a boyfriend so they pay.

Which country? And what requirements?

There's literally no competition here so I looked into it ... long story short, I'm not good looking enough.

Yeah. I mean I reagualrly see nigh model-tier people on the streets, even men.

Wow damn.

on the escort websites 30ish looking were the most pricy ones. German women generally have a taste for older strong men. till lindemann 20-30 years ago for example

wtf that guy looks like ass

Its basically a salesmen job except you sell your dick

Yeah pretty much.
But personality matters a whole lot here.
They are paying for the boyfriend experience.


This guy tells it all.

 

[plotkun]

Most would have BFs.
The only young ones that you'd get are extremely shy, picky and ugly.

Shy and picky is fine. Ugly too actually, most girls look the same from behind

But could a smaller city afford to pay for this?
I thought youd target bankers and other highly paid professional women in their late 30s and 40s who dont want the effort of finding a boyfriend so they pay.

No, statistically speaking you are better off targeting low self esteem middle class rather than strong willed bitches who like to count money and won't pay you much.

There's literally no competition here so I looked into it ... long story short, I'm not good looking enough.

damn, I feel a bit sorry even

Wow damn.

I mean maybe they are actaully models, plenty of agencies hiring here

wtf that guy looks like ass

I meant the frame/age/vibe, not his face

This guy tells it all.

Thanks ima watch it now

 

[Brus Wane]

No, statistically speaking you are better off targeting low self esteem middle class rather than strong willed bitches who like to count money and won't pay you much.

I disagree but I can kinda understand there are pros and cons to this.

The low self esteem tend to be better customers.

But if the rich ones really like you they'll keep calling you back and make sure you're paid well.

You should watch the Japan hosts. The really good ones are given fucking lamborghinis by their female clients.

 

[plotkun]

You should watch the Japan hosts. The really good ones are given fucking lamborghinis by their female clients.

It's where I got the idea in the first place. But they mostly target young vulnerable women who often reside to questionable income sources to pay for said Lamborghinis

 

[Brus Wane]

It's where I got the idea in the first place. But they mostly target young vulnerable women who often reside to questionable income sources to pay for said Lamborghinis

How do you know they resort to questionable income sources? I always assumed it's some rich old woman from a rich family.

Even if it's questionable, who gives a fuck?
Just take the money. It's even better for you since you Germans like to do transactions in cash. If you make it work, you'll earn thousands without paying taxes and shit.

 

[plotkun]

without paying taxes

This is not how we do things here. You may extort money from vulnerable young women, but you WILL pay the state its share.

 

[plotkun]

How do you know they resort to questionable income sources? I always assumed it's some rich old woman from a rich family.

It was told in multiple videos that money moves to the females host clubs from the slaryman, than goes to male host clubs from female hostesses and than it goes back to Japanese salaryman when a host buys his 43 car. No, a fair share comes from old and rich foids but they mostly have self-control and self-esteem to not to spend too much.

 

[Brus Wane]

This is not how we do things here. You may extort money from vulnerable young women, but you WILL pay the state its share.

What? How do you pay taxes if you were paid in cash?

It was told in multiple videos that money moves to the females host clubs from the slaryman, than goes to male host clubs from female hostesses and than it goes back to Japanese salaryman when a host buys his 43 car. No, a fair share comes from old and rich foids but they mostly have self-control and self-esteem to not to spend too much.

....could you link the video? I'd like to know more. So much money sloshing around this dirty business.

I would have been content charging a few hundred an hour.

If my looks were alright, I'd 100% invest in being an amateur therapist.

There's definitely a market for emotional support.

 

[plotkun]

What? How do you pay taxes if you were paid in cash?

You simply file your income and be honest about it.

....could you link the video? I'd like to know more. So much money sloshing around this dirty business.

It was stated in lots of videos about host clubs and I can't pinpoint the exact moment but here is a good one about the issue

I would have been content charging a few hundred an hour.

I'd be fine with 70-100 realistically

If my looks were alright, I'd 100% invest in being an amateur therapist.

Its an interesting way to say manwhore

There's definitely a market for emotional support.

Eh, girls just use threapists nowadays cussed it's free in Germany with health insurance

 

[Brus Wane]

You simply file your income and be honest about it.

Lol. Is this a matter or principle or you just wanna stay on the "right side" of the law..?

It was stated in lots of videos about host clubs and I can't pinpoint the exact moment but here is a good one about the issue

Danke.

I'd be fine with 70-100 realistically

Wow really?

Its an interesting way to say manwhore

No I legit mean I'll invest in therapist skills.

Like maybe take short courses.

The highest paid therapists dont necessarily solve problems but that hour or 2 that they spend with their clients....they make them feel like the world.

THIS IS A VERY UNDERRATED SKILL.

Eh, girls just use threapists nowadays cussed it's free in Germany with health insurance

Gotta love that welfare state.

 

[plotkun]

Lol. Is this a matter or principle or you just wanna stay on the "right side" of the law..?

I don't wanna go to jail and be a free sex worker there. It's a matter of lost profit.

No I legit mean I'll invest in therapist skills.

Like maybe take short courses.

The highest paid therapists dont necessarily solve problems but that hour or 2 that they spend with their clients....they make them feel like the world.

THIS IS A VERY UNDERRATED SKILL.

Especially if you wanna become a serial killer

Gotta love that welfare state.

You pay 15% income for it monthly and it's not optional.