I WILL DEBATE ANYONE ON RELIGION ON DISCORD (JESUS LOVES YOU)

[Deleted member 5969]

DROP YOUR DISCORD AND STATE YOUR VIEWPOINT

MAYBE WE CAN HAVE AN AUDIENCE AS WELL

 

[Deleted member 10551]

I’m good, but thanks.

 

[goat2x]

Bump

 

[Deleted member 5969]

I’m good, but thanks.

God Bless you Sir
live in peace in Jesus Mighty Name Amen

 

[DharkDC]

 

[Alexanderr]

Eh, I’d rather not.

EDIT: My dumbass spent an hour arguing, don’t mind me.

 

[Danish_Retard]

Reminder that christcucks have 0 proof for God. 0

 

[Deleted member 5969]

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Mockery of the Cross, repent.

 

[goat2x]

@RealLooksmaxxer @RAITEIII gtfih cukk

 

[Deleted member 5969]

Reminder that christcucks have 0 proof for God. 0

Would you be willing to debate that point on Discord?

 

[Alexanderr]

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[Danish_Retard]

Would you be willing to debate that point on Discord?

no, go fuck yourself

 

[Deleted member 5969]

Eh, I’d rather not.

Ok Sir God Bless you have a good day in the name of Yeshua

 

[Deleted member 5969]

no, go fuck yourself

Pride comes before the fall, you know you're wrong. Repent.

 

[Alexanderr]

Would you be willing to debate that point on Discord?

If there was undeniable evidence of God’s existence, would we still be having this debate?

 

[Deleted member 5969]

If there was undeniable evidence of God’s existence, would we still be having this debate?

Nothing can be absolutely proved including our own conscience

 

[Danish_Retard]

Pride comes before the fall, you know you're wrong. Repent.

alright, I'll repent, you're probably trying to do this in good faith and just trying to show some of us heathens the light of god. I wish you a good life and that you have a good connection with god.

 

[Deleted member 5969]

alright, I'll repent, you're probably trying to do this in good faith and just trying to show some of us heathens the light of god. I wish you a good life and that you have a good connection with god.

Sir God is not only for me but for everyone
I was on drugs depressed cutting myself and Jesus saved me Hallelujah
He can save you too just chase that connection with Him Amen

 

[Alexanderr]

Nothing can be absolutely proved including our own conscience

I know, point was, there’s no undeniable evidence for God’s existence nor his non-existence.

 

[W0KESTMOTHF]

Odin is the true god

 

[Alexanderr]

Sir God is not only for me but for everyone
I was on drugs depressed cutting myself and Jesus saved me Hallelujah
He can save you too just chase that connection with Him Amen

How do you know it was Jesus and not someone from another religion?

 

[Deleted member 5969]

I know, point was, there’s no undeniable evidence for God’s existence nor his non-existence.

And that is the beautiful thing about God, only Faith can save you
Not money or women or good works like the Muslims believe
It's a clean slate for everyone to have a chance at Eternal life Hallelujah

 

[Danish_Retard]

Sir God is not only for me but for everyone
I was on drugs depressed cutting myself and Jesus saved me Hallelujah
He can save you too just chase that connection with Him Amen

Eh brother, I've been sceptical of god my whole life, but I come from a family of academics so choosing to be an agnostic came easy to me. I see agnosticism as being the neutral position and either being an atheist or theist would need conclusive evidence. Which neither side has, so I'll stay an agnostic till I die or someone proves or disproves god. When I die, even if I haven't believed god will judge me for how I have lived my life, and not whether or not I have believed, if he does exist.

 

[Deleted member 5969]

How do you know it was Jesus and not someone from another religion?

Jesus said I am the way the truth and the life no one gets to the Father except through Me

 

[Deleted member 5969]

Eh brother, I've been sceptical of god my whole life, but I come from a family of academics so choosing to be an agnostic came easy to me. I see agnostic as being the neutral position and either being an atheist or theist would need conclusive evidence. Which neither side has, so I'll stay an agnostic till I die or someone proves or disproves god. When I died, even if I haven't believed god will judge me for how I have lived my life, and not whether or not I have believed, if he does exist.

I was an agnostic as well but the Lord spoke to me through a preacher (like I preach today) and it saved my soul Hallelujah

 

[W0KESTMOTHF]

Jesus said I am the way the truth and the life no one gets to the Father except through Me

Damm bro! He really said that , wow! You got me convinced!

 

[Deleted member 5969]

Damm bro! He really said that , wow! You got me convinced!

Sir have you heard of the Parable of the Seeds? Repent of your mockery as well

 

[Danish_Retard]

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I was an agnostic as well but the Lord spoke to me through a preacher (like I preach today) and it saved my soul Hallelujah

You have read my position, but you don't respond to that, instead you try and scare me with hell.

Pascal's Wager is the argument that a rational person should live as though God exists and seek to believe in God. Why? Well, their argument is if God does actually exist, such a person will have only a finite loss (some pleasures, luxury, etc.), whereas they stand to receive infinite gains (as represented by eternity in Heaven) and avoid infinite losses (eternity in Hell).

There are several things wrong with this.

(1) The most notable is that you believe only ONE god exists. There are many, many religions and there have been many, many gods! Over the years man has worshiped thousands and thousands of different gods. If you believe in a god, to think "your god" is the "one and only true god" is very, very naive. If there is a god and you chose the wrong one, you're no better than an atheist who chooses no god at all. You're just as likely to be "angering God."

One of my favorite quotes: "How thoughtful of God to arrange matters so that wherever you happen to be born, the local religion always turns out to be the right one."

(2) Secondly, if there is no God, you DO lose something. The finite loss mentioned above is huge. You lost the ONE chance you had while on this planet to think for yourself. You lived your whole life, the one and only life you had, based upon a lie. If a Christian, for example, is wrong, they have lost EVERYTHING -- their entire belief system, their morals, and in the case of some, literally their entire life's work.

Religions require people to...

…donate money; participate in rituals; spend time in houses of worship; follow rules about what to eat, what to wear, what drugs to avoid, and who to have sex with; cut off ties with their gay children, suppress their sexuality. reject evolution, reject blood transfusions; refuse to consider interfaith marriage or interfaith friendship; memorize a long stretch of religious text and recite it in public at age thirteen; spend their weekends knocking on strangers' doors, pestering them to join the faith; bear as many children as they physically can; disown their children if they leave the faith; obey their husbands without question; not get tattoos, etc., etc., etc.

(3) Belief in God can actually bring harm. I'll give one example, but there are many. There are Christians in Nigeria who are killing their own children because they believe in God and their God said you shall not allow witches to live, and they believe their children are witches.

(4) Many people believe there are other possibilities besides just Heaven and Hell, such as progression to a better plane or just hanging around as ghosts or reincarnation. Neither of those require the existence of a god to be possibilities.

(5) Believing in the wrong God has additional problems. Most religions assure you that blasphemers will be more severely punished than un-believers. Again, your chances of picking the "right god," based upon the number of gods to choose from, is very small.

(6) If the Christian god is indeed omnipotent, He will know who are "true believers" and who worships him only to be on the "safe side."

Pascal's Wager assumes the stakes of the bet are zero. As you can see above, the stakes are far from zero.

Question: What is the fate of the unlearned? What happens to people who have not encountered the specific religion in which Hell is an issue? What happened to the billions of people who died long before Christ was supposedly born? What happens to the infants and children and young adults who have not learned about religion yet at all?

It is important to note that Pascal's Wager isn't an argument for why God exists and is really real. Pascal's Wager is, in fact, 100% disconnected from the question of whether God exists. Pascal's Wager offers no evidence of God's existence. What it is, is misdirection. Distraction. It's a way of drawing attention away from how crummy the arguments for God's existence really are.

 

[Deleted member 9090]

this shit is such a waste of time lads

 

[Deleted member 5969]

You have read my position, but you don't respond to that, instead you try and scare me with hell.

Pascal's Wager is the argument that a rational person should live as though God exists and seek to believe in God. Why? Well, their argument is if God does actually exist, such a person will have only a finite loss (some pleasures, luxury, etc.), whereas they stand to receive infinite gains (as represented by eternity in Heaven) and avoid infinite losses (eternity in Hell).

There are several things wrong with this.

(1) The most notable is that you believe only ONE god exists. There are many, many religions and there have been many, many gods! Over the years man has worshiped thousands and thousands of different gods. If you believe in a god, to think "your god" is the "one and only true god" is very, very naive. If there is a god and you chose the wrong one, you're no better than an atheist who chooses no god at all. You're just as likely to be "angering God."

One of my favorite quotes: "How thoughtful of God to arrange matters so that wherever you happen to be born, the local religion always turns out to be the right one."

(2) Secondly, if there is no God, you DO lose something. The finite loss mentioned above is huge. You lost the ONE chance you had while on this planet to think for yourself. You lived your whole life, the one and only life you had, based upon a lie. If a Christian, for example, is wrong, they have lost EVERYTHING -- their entire belief system, their morals, and in the case of some, literally their entire life's work.

Religions require people to...

…donate money; participate in rituals; spend time in houses of worship; follow rules about what to eat, what to wear, what drugs to avoid, and who to have sex with; cut off ties with their gay children, suppress their sexuality. reject evolution, reject blood transfusions; refuse to consider interfaith marriage or interfaith friendship; memorize a long stretch of religious text and recite it in public at age thirteen; spend their weekends knocking on strangers' doors, pestering them to join the faith; bear as many children as they physically can; disown their children if they leave the faith; obey their husbands without question; not get tattoos, etc., etc., etc.

(3) Belief in God can actually bring harm. I'll give one example, but there are many. There are Christians in Nigeria who are killing their own children because they believe in God and their God said you shall not allow witches to live, and they believe their children are witches.

(4) Many people believe there are other possibilities besides just Heaven and Hell, such as progression to a better plane or just hanging around as ghosts or reincarnation. Neither of those require the existence of a god to be possibilities.

(5) Believing in the wrong God has additional problems. Most religions assure you that blasphemers will be more severely punished than un-believers. Again, your chances of picking the "right god," based upon the number of gods to choose from, is very small.

(6) If the Christian god is indeed omnipotent, He will know who are "true believers" and who worships him only to be on the "safe side."

Pascal's Wager assumes the stakes of the bet are zero. As you can see above, the stakes are far from zero.

Question: What is the fate of the unlearned? What happens to people who have not encountered the specific religion in which Hell is an issue? What happened to the billions of people who died long before Christ was supposedly born? What happens to the infants and children and young adults who have not learned about religion yet at all?

It is important to note that Pascal's Wager isn't an argument for why God exists and is really real. Pascal's Wager is, in fact, 100% disconnected from the question of whether God exists. Pascal's Wager offers no evidence of God's existence. What it is, is misdirection. Distraction. It's a way of drawing attention away from how crummy the arguments for God's existence really are.

Question: What is the fate of the unlearned? What happens to people who have not encountered the specific religion in which Hell is an issue? What happened to the billions of people who died long before Christ was supposedly born? What happens to the infants and children and young adults who have not learned about religion yet at all?

They are judged on a seperate scale, most of them enter the Kingdom.

 

[Deleted member 5969]

this shit is such a waste of time lads

We are talking about eternal life or death its the most important thing ever.
You don't take your good looks. money or women to the grave.

 

[Deleted member 5969]

You have read my position, but you don't respond to that, instead you try and scare me with hell.

Pascal's Wager is the argument that a rational person should live as though God exists and seek to believe in God. Why? Well, their argument is if God does actually exist, such a person will have only a finite loss (some pleasures, luxury, etc.), whereas they stand to receive infinite gains (as represented by eternity in Heaven) and avoid infinite losses (eternity in Hell).

There are several things wrong with this.

(1) The most notable is that you believe only ONE god exists. There are many, many religions and there have been many, many gods! Over the years man has worshiped thousands and thousands of different gods. If you believe in a god, to think "your god" is the "one and only true god" is very, very naive. If there is a god and you chose the wrong one, you're no better than an atheist who chooses no god at all. You're just as likely to be "angering God."

One of my favorite quotes: "How thoughtful of God to arrange matters so that wherever you happen to be born, the local religion always turns out to be the right one."

(2) Secondly, if there is no God, you DO lose something. The finite loss mentioned above is huge. You lost the ONE chance you had while on this planet to think for yourself. You lived your whole life, the one and only life you had, based upon a lie. If a Christian, for example, is wrong, they have lost EVERYTHING -- their entire belief system, their morals, and in the case of some, literally their entire life's work.

Religions require people to...

…donate money; participate in rituals; spend time in houses of worship; follow rules about what to eat, what to wear, what drugs to avoid, and who to have sex with; cut off ties with their gay children, suppress their sexuality. reject evolution, reject blood transfusions; refuse to consider interfaith marriage or interfaith friendship; memorize a long stretch of religious text and recite it in public at age thirteen; spend their weekends knocking on strangers' doors, pestering them to join the faith; bear as many children as they physically can; disown their children if they leave the faith; obey their husbands without question; not get tattoos, etc., etc., etc.

(3) Belief in God can actually bring harm. I'll give one example, but there are many. There are Christians in Nigeria who are killing their own children because they believe in God and their God said you shall not allow witches to live, and they believe their children are witches.

(4) Many people believe there are other possibilities besides just Heaven and Hell, such as progression to a better plane or just hanging around as ghosts or reincarnation. Neither of those require the existence of a god to be possibilities.

(5) Believing in the wrong God has additional problems. Most religions assure you that blasphemers will be more severely punished than un-believers. Again, your chances of picking the "right god," based upon the number of gods to choose from, is very small.

(6) If the Christian god is indeed omnipotent, He will know who are "true believers" and who worships him only to be on the "safe side."

Pascal's Wager assumes the stakes of the bet are zero. As you can see above, the stakes are far from zero.

Question: What is the fate of the unlearned? What happens to people who have not encountered the specific religion in which Hell is an issue? What happened to the billions of people who died long before Christ was supposedly born? What happens to the infants and children and young adults who have not learned about religion yet at all?

It is important to note that Pascal's Wager isn't an argument for why God exists and is really real. Pascal's Wager is, in fact, 100% disconnected from the question of whether God exists. Pascal's Wager offers no evidence of God's existence. What it is, is misdirection. Distraction. It's a way of drawing attention away from how crummy the arguments for God's existence really are.

I would love to debate you Sir I have skimmed through your post and seen interesting points

 

[lutte]

You have read my position, but you don't respond to that, instead you try and scare me with hell.

Pascal's Wager is the argument that a rational person should live as though God exists and seek to believe in God. Why? Well, their argument is if God does actually exist, such a person will have only a finite loss (some pleasures, luxury, etc.), whereas they stand to receive infinite gains (as represented by eternity in Heaven) and avoid infinite losses (eternity in Hell).

There are several things wrong with this.

(1) The most notable is that you believe only ONE god exists. There are many, many religions and there have been many, many gods! Over the years man has worshiped thousands and thousands of different gods. If you believe in a god, to think "your god" is the "one and only true god" is very, very naive. If there is a god and you chose the wrong one, you're no better than an atheist who chooses no god at all. You're just as likely to be "angering God."

One of my favorite quotes: "How thoughtful of God to arrange matters so that wherever you happen to be born, the local religion always turns out to be the right one."

(2) Secondly, if there is no God, you DO lose something. The finite loss mentioned above is huge. You lost the ONE chance you had while on this planet to think for yourself. You lived your whole life, the one and only life you had, based upon a lie. If a Christian, for example, is wrong, they have lost EVERYTHING -- their entire belief system, their morals, and in the case of some, literally their entire life's work.

Religions require people to...

…donate money; participate in rituals; spend time in houses of worship; follow rules about what to eat, what to wear, what drugs to avoid, and who to have sex with; cut off ties with their gay children, suppress their sexuality. reject evolution, reject blood transfusions; refuse to consider interfaith marriage or interfaith friendship; memorize a long stretch of religious text and recite it in public at age thirteen; spend their weekends knocking on strangers' doors, pestering them to join the faith; bear as many children as they physically can; disown their children if they leave the faith; obey their husbands without question; not get tattoos, etc., etc., etc.

(3) Belief in God can actually bring harm. I'll give one example, but there are many. There are Christians in Nigeria who are killing their own children because they believe in God and their God said you shall not allow witches to live, and they believe their children are witches.

(4) Many people believe there are other possibilities besides just Heaven and Hell, such as progression to a better plane or just hanging around as ghosts or reincarnation. Neither of those require the existence of a god to be possibilities.

(5) Believing in the wrong God has additional problems. Most religions assure you that blasphemers will be more severely punished than un-believers. Again, your chances of picking the "right god," based upon the number of gods to choose from, is very small.

(6) If the Christian god is indeed omnipotent, He will know who are "true believers" and who worships him only to be on the "safe side."

Pascal's Wager assumes the stakes of the bet are zero. As you can see above, the stakes are far from zero.

Question: What is the fate of the unlearned? What happens to people who have not encountered the specific religion in which Hell is an issue? What happened to the billions of people who died long before Christ was supposedly born? What happens to the infants and children and young adults who have not learned about religion yet at all?

It is important to note that Pascal's Wager isn't an argument for why God exists and is really real. Pascal's Wager is, in fact, 100% disconnected from the question of whether God exists. Pascal's Wager offers no evidence of God's existence. What it is, is misdirection. Distraction. It's a way of drawing attention away from how crummy the arguments for God's existence really are.

read it all sadly

 

[Alexanderr]

Jesus said I am the way the truth and the life no one gets to the Father except through Me

And what if someone from another religion says the same?

 

[Patient A]

Eh brother, I've been sceptical of god my whole life, but I come from a family of academics so choosing to be an agnostic came easy to me. I see agnosticism as being the neutral position and either being an atheist or theist would need conclusive evidence. Which neither side has, so I'll stay an agnostic till I die or someone proves or disproves god. When I die, even if I haven't believed god will judge me for how I have lived my life, and not whether or not I have believed, if he does exist.

JFL at believing God is a he that thinks like a person. No wonder there are so many kids going atheist

 

[Deleted member 5969]

And what if someone from another religion says the same?

Do that religion have the evidence to support it like Christianity does? No.
The Bible has more evidence than any other religion and any other book
Jesus rose from the dead, Mohammed died, Krishna died

 

[Deleted member 5818]

drop ur discord me and arvid will debate you

 

[Deleted member 5969]

read it all sadly

Same and there is many misconceptions

 

[Danish_Retard]

JFL at believing God is a he that thinks like a person. No wonder there are so many kids going atheist

There is no reason to believe in god.

 

[Deleted member 5969]

drop ur discord me and arvid will debate you

What is your viewpoint? And only one person at a time please, but your friend is welcome to watch.

 

[Deleted member 5818]

What is your viewpoint? And only one person at a time please, but your friend is welcome to watch.

2v1 take it or leave it

i'm neutral

 

[Deleted member 5969]

There is no reason to believe in god.

Except living a fulfilling happy life and eternal Life in Heaven

 

[Deleted member 5969]

2v1 take it or leave it

i'm neutral

Neutral in what sense? You're agnostic?

 

[Patient A]

There is no reason to believe in god.

Ok

But you don’t have any idea what the word god means. And frankly I don’t care what you think god is or what you have been preached to as to what it is

 

[Deleted member 5818]

Neutral in what sense? You're agnostic?

i'm not a muh dont believe in silly archaic religions, but i dont believe in religion

 

[Enfant terrible]

Do you read secondary christian literature
like saint augustine or something like that ?

 

[Deleted member 5969]

i'm not a muh dont believe in silly archaic religions, but i dont believe in religion

OK but I will only debate one person at a time sorry.

 

[Alexanderr]

Do that religion have the evidence to support it like Christianity does? No.

Incredibly bold claim. You haven’t seen all evidence other religions have provided to support their beliefs, so how did you come to an assertion like that?

The Bible has more evidence than any other religion and any other book

Again, can you prove that or is this belief just another leap of faith?

Jesus rose from the dead, Mohammed died, Krishna died

There’s about 10,000 religions on earth, if some of those have figures in them that rose from the dead, does that suddenly mean their religions holds more validity than those of others?

 

[Deleted member 5969]

Do you read secondary christian literature
like saint augustine or something like that ?

The Bible says beware of false prophets and false teachers so no.
"Saint" Augustin was also a Catholic which is extremely pagan.

 

[Enfant terrible]

The Bible says beware of false prophets and false teachers so no.
"Saint" Augustin was also a Catholic which is extremely pagan.

What are the right teachers ?