I wish frame and height mattered for shit

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Tallooksmaxxer

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but they do not 🥀
 
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I do not wish frame matters for shit because that would be sui fuel for me
 
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genuinely asking, is this a joke? height literally comes before face
 
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genuinely asking, is this a joke? height literally comes before face
unless you are 5'6, your smv is your face, I have accepted this harsh truth.
 
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Cope more, height is king. I would genocide the entire continent of africa if it would give me 4 inches in height.
 
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Cope more, height is king. I would genocide the entire continent of africa if it would give me 4 inches in height.
you think like that because you are short, grass is not greener on this side.
 
you think like that because you are short, grass is not greener on this side.
I do think like that because i'm short but that doesn't mean i'm wrong. The grass is as green as it fucking gets on the other side, you have no idea because you're not short. You have never once in your life had to go through life as an adult male (if you can even call manlets that) as being short. It's literally the most brutal thing that can happen. I'm 5'8.5 and i don't even bother doing anything anymore because i lost 2 inches in height due to malnutrition/insufficient sleep so i just don't care anymore.
 
I do think like that because i'm short but that doesn't mean i'm wrong. The grass is as green as it fucking gets on the other side, you have no idea because you're not short. You have never once in your life had to go through life as an adult male (if you can even call manlets that) as being short. It's literally the most brutal thing that can happen. I'm 5'8.5 and i don't even bother doing anything anymore because i lost 2 inches in height due to malnutrition/insufficient sleep so i just don't care anymore.
height might matter for social dominance among males or career but trust me it does jackshit for getting girls.
 
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height might matter for social dominance among males or career but trust me it does jackshit for getting girls.
Face matters more if you are 5'9-5'10. And generally matters more than height. But nowadays there are girls willing to date you only for height.
 
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But nowadays there are girls willing to date you only for height.
it matters for girls too... all girls want tall guy
yes some stupid beckies who think that having a tall guy is a trophy, same as males thinking having a blond girl is trophy.

stacies always go for face.
 
yes some stupid beckies who think that having a tall guy is a trophy, same as males thinking having a blond girl is trophy.

stacies always go for face.
this is cope boyo, most women prefer a tall guy
 
Ironically this is me in Brazil

I'm 6'3 and 220 lbs but foids dont care about size here in brazil (they like gymcels though)
 
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this is cope boyo, most women prefer a tall guy
in hypothetical scenario where 2 men are facially equal but one of them is taller? yeah, but not when it's tall htn vs manlet chadlite or tall mtn vs manlet htn, foids will pick the better looking guy anyday.
 
in hypothetical scenario where 2 men are facially equal but one of them is taller? yeah, but not when it's tall htn vs manlet chadlite or tall mtn vs manlet htn, foids will pick the better looking guy anyday.
you have to be an entire level above just to compete with a taller worse looking guy and even then women love dating tall ugly guys all the time. I don't know why you cope so hard, height matters a lot to 99% of women.
 
had a 6,6 guy in my school he was nt and always tried to socialize with others but he was the schools laughing sack just because he didnt look good, poor guy
 
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yeah i am 6’5 wide clavicles with low bodyfat but women seem to find me creepy snd intidmidating.

first day i started school some foid classmate were glaring daggers at me for no reason and one of them even told me to never talk to her again after i said ”Hi how are you”

but i am etnic ltn they all want white guys.


even 5’5 subhuman whitecel is more attractive than me in foids eyes.
 
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but they do not 🥀
Yes they do. An accumulation of everything to a good enough standard is needed. If you have good frame and are tall enough they are additions but yes, you need a good face card too. It's the absence of these features that's the problem. Everything matters.
 
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Yes they do. An accumulation of everything to a good enough standard is needed. If you have good frame and are tall enough they are additions but yes, you need a good face card too. It's the absence of these features that's the problem. Everything matters.
I say the same thing. If you are like 5'7-5'8 barefoot or above, which covers like 60%-70% of population, then you dont need to worry about height.
 
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yeah i am 6’5 wide clavicles with low bodyfat but women seem to find me creepy snd intidmidating.

first day i started school some foid classmate were glaring daggers at me for no reason and one of them even told me to never talk to her again after i said ”Hi how are you”

but i am etnic ltn they all want white guys.


even 5’5 subhuman whitecel is more attractive than me in foids eyes.
5'5" subhuman is not getting any positive reactions from women. This is pure cope.

You are 6'5", have wide clavicles and have a low bf% these are desirable traits in the eyes of women. You said that you're a ltn which I'm assuming is your rating based on your face alone, so taking into account your other traits, your overall smv will be higher. I can't recommend any soft or hard maxxing tips for you but with what you've said alone, it sounds like you're going after white hhtb-stacey's. If you're ethnic you're in a niche i'm afraid so it knocks you down some points but you can still slay, just be realistic with your looksmatch and what type of girls you approach.

You sound ND tbh. Face matters but you said you're ltn + you have desirable traits that boost your smv so there's no reason for you to not slay.
 
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I say the same thing. If you are like 5'7-5'8 barefoot or above, which covers like 60%-70% of population, then you dont need to worry about height.
Yeah your height is predetermined so it should be the last resort (if hardmaxxing) as there will be other areas that you'll most likely need to tend to but obviously the taller you are the better.
 
5'5" subhuman is not getting any positive reactions from women. This is pure cope.

You are 6'5", have wide clavicles and have a low bf% these are desirable traits in the eyes of women. You said that you're a ltn which I'm assuming is your rating based on your face alone, so taking into account your other traits, your overall smv will be higher. I can't recommend any soft or hard maxxing tips for you but with what you've said alone, it sounds like you're going after white hhtb-stacey's. If you're ethnic you're in a niche i'm afraid so it knocks you down some points but you can still slay, just be realistic with your looksmatch and what type of girls you approach.

You sound ND tbh. Face matters but you said you're ltn + you have desirable traits that boost your smv so there's no reason for you to not slay.
what type of girls do you want me to go for?

do you want me to go for landwhales?

i do go for ltb-mtb ethnic and white foids but they all don’t want anything to do with me.

I only ever go for women in my league but they seem to think i am not good enough i don’t even think i am getting rejected becayse of my looks i think it’s because of my race either that or my ndness.

and me being nd is a result of me getting treated like shit growing up.
 
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what type of girls do you want me to go for?

do you want me to go for landwhales?

i do go for ltb-mtb ethnic and white foids but they all don’t want anything to do with me.

I only ever go for women in my league but they seem to think i am not good enough i don’t even think i am getting rejected becayse of my looks i think it’s because of my race either that or my ndness.

and me being nd is a result of me getting treated like shit growing up.
you gotta hardmaxx bro. no country for ugly men.
 
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you gotta hardmaxx bro. no country for ugly men.
Hardmaxxing wouldn’t work me for me i am ND maybe on the spectrum idk. i do know social ques and social rules but there is definitely something wrong with me mentally that i can’t figure out.
 
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Hardmaxxing wouldn’t work me for me i am ND maybe on the spectrum idk. i do know social ques and social rules but there is definitely something wrong with me mentally that i can’t figure out.
respectfully, unless you are schizophrenic or something, its just all positive and negative reinforcements. you will get your confidence up pretty quick if you succeed with hardmaxxing.
 
what type of girls do you want me to go for?

do you want me to go for landwhales?

i do go for ltb-mtb ethnic and white foids but they all don’t want anything to do with me.

I only ever go for women in my league but they seem to think i am not good enough i don’t even think i am getting rejected becayse of my looks i think it’s because of my race either that or my ndness.

and me being nd is a result of me getting treated like shit growing up.
Yeah I'm not trying to be a dick by saying you sound nd but the truth is there's a level of neurotypical-ness that you have to embody that doesn't scare off the foids. i'll just keep regurgitating to same shit but basically if you're 6'5" with good frame and LTN you should not have a problem at all. You need to stop blaming your ethnicity btw. yeah it's harder but i promise you it's not that big of a deal granted you have above average features in other departments. you are 6'5", you have wide clavicles and you are LTN facially. If you can get to MTN facially then you'll mog the average person.

There are people who are fat and short who have a partner, yes they don't slay but you need to stop wallowing in self pity. I know people like to vent and joke on here but if you're being serious please just hear what i'm saying.

Of course I can't see your face but from the stats you have given me in theory you should have no problem with foids.

Also cold approaching doesn't work in 2025 unless you are chadlite+ and even then foids are hesitant. Cold approaching and speaking to foids casually irl are completely different btw. If you work a job and have a coworker who you think to be quite attractive then speak to them casually for a sustained period of time within a low risk environment (ie. work) and keep it casual with minimal pressure. Eventually you'll pivot to meeting one on one outside of work for drinks and you get the rest.

I'd suggest surrounding yourself with foids in low risk environments where there isn't any pressure. so that'll be work, school, volunteering gigs and extra curricular clubs. as long as you can keep it casual it'll be fine. If you cant be bothered to long it out and want the most time efficient method then go on dating apps.

You can only afford to be ND if you are chadlite and above.
 
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That doesn‘t mean that your frame and height doesn‘t matter

No womans gonna wonna date a 3‘11 guy with 10 inch clavicles, no matter the face
Have you read my replies above? Of course guys below 5'7 will greatly suffer but above it its just face.
 
Have you read my replies above?
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being jacked doesnt matter that much, but wide clavicles and height can defoo ascend u by alot especially height.
 
I say the same thing. If you are like 5'7-5'8 barefoot or above, which covers like 60%-70% of population, then you dont need to worry about height.
5'7-5'8? brother why do you cope so much? if you said 5'10 then it would be believable
 

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