Ideal Facial Measurements; Stop Relying On Ratios; White Measurements

[NuclearGeo20]

Ideal IPD; Approximately 64mm

Ideal Nasal Height (Vertical Distance From Pupil To Sub-Nasal); Approximately 50-51mm

Ideal Philtrum Length; Approximately 14mm

Ideal Lower Half of Lower Third Length (Vertical Distance From Mouth to Pogonion); Approximately 47mm (SWAYS A LOT)

Ideal Bizygomatic Width; Approximately 141mm-143mm

Ideal Nasal Width; Approximately 38mm

Ideal Mouth Width; Approximately 54-55mm

Ideal Forehead Height; Approximately 70mm

Ideal PFL; 31mm+

Ideal PCT; 6-7 Degrees

This is to the best of my knowledge; and these measurements might not be 100 percent accurate, but they are pretty close.

 

[NuclearGeo20]

These are for white people

 

[nigerianprince2005x]

saaaaar india same same white will this work

 

[Sadist]

Ideal IPD; Approximately 64mm

Ideal Nasal Height (Vertical Distance From Pupil To Sub-Nasal); Approximately 50-51mm

Ideal Philtrum Length; Approximately 14mm

Ideal Lower Half of Lower Third Length (Vertical Distance From Mouth to Pogonion); Approximately 47mm (SWAYS A LOT)

Ideal Bizygomatic Width; Approximately 141mm-143mm

Ideal Nasal Width; Approximately 38mm

Ideal Mouth Width; Approximately 54-55mm

Ideal Forehead Height; Approximately 70mm

Ideal PFL; 31mm+

Ideal PCT; 6-7 Degrees

This is to the best of my knowledge; and these measurements might not be 100 percent accurate, but they are pretty close.

“stop relying on ratios”

goodluck accurately measuring shit in mm, even with calipers, not even talking about pictures

also these are wrong anyways

 

[NuclearGeo20]

“stop relying on ratios”

goodluck accurately measuring shit in mm, even with calipers, not even talking about pictures

also these are wrong anyways

also these are wrong anyways

Which measurements are wrong btw.

Im going to an eye doctor and I'm going to ask for my IPD. I will then take the pixel to mm ratio from that IPD measurement and use it to measure the rest of my face. Thats the best method to know which flaws to fix

 

[NuclearGeo20]

saaaaar india same same white will this work

They're actually pretty similar, if yopu have these measurements as an indian you will be a mogger

 

[Sadist]

Which measurements are wrong btw.

for example bizygo
mine is 145mm and thats considered kinda small

Im going to an eye doctor and I'm going to ask for my IPD. I will then take the pixel to mm ratio from that IPD measurement and use it to measure the rest of my face. Thats the best method to know which flaws to fix

unfortunately doesnt work like that. reference measurements get all fucked up, and unless you have a perfectly accurate way to do that, then it simply doesnt work. as an example, i measured two peoples bidelt, using this reference method, at 18.9”, whilst in reality they are both 22” confirmed.

people have different skull sizes, so it indeed is all about ratios.

 

[NuclearGeo20]

for example bizygo
mine is 145mm and thats considered kinda small


unfortunately doesnt work like that. reference measurements get all fucked up, and unless you have a perfectly accurate way to do that, then it simply doesnt work. as an example, i measured two peoples bidelt, using this reference method, at 18.9”, whilst in reality they are both 22” confirmed.

people have different skull sizes, so it indeed is all about ratios.

If your bizygo is 145mm, it is in the ideal range. It is a halo.

Every top teir model has an IPD around 64mm to 65mm. Look at it yourself.

If skull size mattered, then Jordan Barett would look like he has close set eyes, but he doesn't although he has .43 ESR. The reason his eyes don't look close set is because he actually has an ideal IPD, his face is just too wide.

Reference measurements don't get messed up if you have a camera with minimal lens distortion.

All top tier male models have similar feature measurements not ratios. Lets take Sam Winchester for example or Jared Padelecki. He has .45 ESR but his IPD is sub 70mm, making his eyes look far set. Even if the eye spacing is "proportional" to the skull it doeant matter. Only the raw measurement.

 

[NuclearGeo20]

for example bizygo
mine is 145mm and thats considered kinda small


unfortunately doesnt work like that. reference measurements get all fucked up, and unless you have a perfectly accurate way to do that, then it simply doesnt work. as an example, i measured two peoples bidelt, using this reference method, at 18.9”, whilst in reality they are both 22” confirmed.

people have different skull sizes, so it indeed is all about ratios.

Also I wouldn't use a reference based for things that are far away from each other in the picture. The face is pretty even and the features are close together. On the contrary, the shoulders and face are pretty far from each other so I wouldn't use a picture

Check out Giants page on Instagram. He says that a proportional IPD is 64mm

 

[nigerianprince2005x]

They're actually pretty similar, if yopu have these measurements as an indian you will be a mogger

yeah all jokes aside some indians look simmilar to white ppl excpet the fact that there skin is darker then my shit

 

[it_will_begin]

Ideal IPD; Approximately 64mm

Ideal Nasal Height (Vertical Distance From Pupil To Sub-Nasal); Approximately 50-51mm

Ideal Philtrum Length; Approximately 14mm

Ideal Lower Half of Lower Third Length (Vertical Distance From Mouth to Pogonion); Approximately 47mm (SWAYS A LOT)

Ideal Bizygomatic Width; Approximately 141mm-143mm

Ideal Nasal Width; Approximately 38mm

Ideal Mouth Width; Approximately 54-55mm

Ideal Forehead Height; Approximately 70mm

Ideal PFL; 31mm+

Ideal PCT; 6-7 Degrees

This is to the best of my knowledge; and these measurements might not be 100 percent accurate, but they are pretty close.

omg how wrong are this measures, they are far away from ideal. depending on these measures i have ideal Philtrum Length, Bizygomatic Width, Nasal Width, Mouth Width... in reality my jaws are recessed and downward growth and i have narrow palate... how my Bizygomatic Width (143mm) is ideal if my palate is only 36mm (of imw)? these measures are taken on a standard modern skull not a chad one

 

[iblamemygenes]

Ideal IPD; Approximately 64mm

Ideal Nasal Height (Vertical Distance From Pupil To Sub-Nasal); Approximately 50-51mm

Ideal Philtrum Length; Approximately 14mm

Ideal Lower Half of Lower Third Length (Vertical Distance From Mouth to Pogonion); Approximately 47mm (SWAYS A LOT)

Ideal Bizygomatic Width; Approximately 141mm-143mm

Ideal Nasal Width; Approximately 38mm

Ideal Mouth Width; Approximately 54-55mm

Ideal Forehead Height; Approximately 70mm

Ideal PFL; 31mm+

Ideal PCT; 6-7 Degrees

This is to the best of my knowledge; and these measurements might not be 100 percent accurate, but they are pretty close.

Mine : 65 mm IPD 53 mm nasal height (tip droops down) 18 mm philtrum, 47 mm lower half, 151 mm bizygo, 42mm nasal width, 53 mm mouth width , 71 mm forehead, 32 mm pfl, 6 PCT. we can conclude that I for sure need rihno that narrows the nose and slightly shortens it, for sure need a lip lift, zygo shaving would help my skull width but idk if that’s possible.

 

[iblamemygenes]

Also I wouldn't use a reference based for things that are far away from each other in the picture. The face is pretty even and the features are close together. On the contrary, the shoulders and face are pretty far from each other so I wouldn't use a picture

Check out Giants page on Instagram. He says that a proportional IPD is 64mm

No he said 65-67 is ideal

 

[NuclearGeo20]

Mine : 65 mm IPD 53 mm nasal height (tip droops down) 18 mm philtrum, 47 mm lower half, 151 mm bizygo, 42mm nasal width, 53 mm mouth width , 71 mm forehead, 32 mm pfl, 6 PCT. we can conclude that I for sure need rihno that narrows the nose and slightly shortens it, for sure need a lip lift, zygo shaving would help my skull width but idk if that’s possible.

Your nasal height seems slightly long. I dont think a rhinoplasty can save that you might need a high cut lf1.

Are you sure you have a 151mm bizygomatic width, that's like top 1 percent.

Pfl is good.

42mm isn't that bad the surgery could be low roi if you haven't looked at it with a morph.

Mogs me prob

 

[NuclearGeo20]

No he said 65-67 is ideal

Could you link the post? i can't find it anymore

 

[NuclearGeo20]

omg how wrong are this measures, they are far away from ideal. depending on these measures i have ideal Philtrum Length, Bizygomatic Width, Nasal Width, Mouth Width... in reality my jaws are recessed and downward growth and i have narrow palate... how my Bizygomatic Width (143mm) is ideal if my palate is only 36mm (of imw)? these measures are taken on a standard modern skull not a chad one

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I averaged 30 white males models to get these measurements. And they came out pretty close to the ANSUR II study. It probably isn't 100 percent but gives a rough framework.

 

[iblamemygenes]

Your nasal height seems slightly long. I dont think a rhinoplasty can save that you might need a high cut lf1.

Are you sure you have a 151mm bizygomatic width, that's like top 1 percent.

Pfl is good.

42mm isn't that bad the surgery could be low roi if you haven't looked at it with a morph.

Mogs me prob

Yes I’m sure I’ve measured many times and my esr is .43. Here’s a pic of me with a real camera

 

[NuclearGeo20]

Yes I’m sure I’ve measured many times and my esr is .43. Here’s a pic of me with a real camera View attachment 3954607

Your eyes dont look 65mm have you gotten it measured by an eye doctor.

Im getting mine measured in a couple days.

You look good BTW

 

[iblamemygenes]

They are 65 mm with a caliper, my face is just long and wide, 71 mm midface and 151-152 bizygo

 

[iblamemygenes]

Your eyes dont look 65mm have you gotten it measured by an eye doctor.

Im getting mine measured in a couple days.

You look good BTW

Also you don’t have to reassure me to make me feel better, I know my harmony is fucked and it’s over

 

[NuclearGeo20]

Also you don’t have to reassure me to make me feel better, I know my harmony is fucked and it’s over

HTN...

 

[iblamemygenes]

HTN...

Maybe if I had 143 mm bizygo and shorter philtrum and smaller nose

 

[NuclearGeo20]

Turns out 53mm nasal height is very attractive. The more you knkw

 

[NuclearGeo20]

15mm philtrum seems good too