Ideal Ratios for Female Gaze

[wamlamacadama]

I'm working on an iterative model that should be able to calculate ideal placement for volume increase/decrease in the face for optimal aesthetics.

The main basis that it works on is ideal ratios and facial depths. Here's the issue:
I can't find a comprehensive list of ideal female gaze measurables (as much as can be measured, whether it's a ratio, depth, etc.). The whole system will be based OFF of these rmeasurables, for example

It should compute your deviation from the each individual ideal ratio, and then compile the deviations into a library where it assigns responsibility of a measurable to a specific facial point, and it should run until it calculates the volume changes in targeted areas of the face that must occur to completely perfect all of these measurables in the facial structure.

So, if anyone knows of a thread, or a list, or any advice that they could give/redirect me to, that would be hugely helpful.

One last question, I found a study done on 22 "ideal" female gaze male faces, and it had a total of about 15 ratios. Obviously, there are lists with far more ratios than this, but, to be clear, does the effectiveness of adding more ratios plateau at some point? Like would 15 ratios be essentially as useful as 50? Obviously, 1 ratio would be far less useful than 5, but at the same time, 2,000 ratios probably would be essentially the same as 3,000.

 

[vincentzygo]

Tldr?

 

[idkmanimao]

I'm working on an iterative model that should be able to calculate ideal placement for volume increase/decrease in the face for optimal aesthetics.

The main basis that it works on is ideal ratios and facial depths. Here's the issue:
I can't find a comprehensive list of ideal female gaze measurables (as much as can be measured, whether it's a ratio, depth, etc.). The whole system will be based OFF of these rmeasurables, for example

It should compute your deviation from the each individual ideal ratio, and then compile the deviations into a library where it assigns responsibility of a measurable to a specific facial point, and it should run until it calculates the volume changes in targeted areas of the face that must occur to completely perfect all of these measurables in the facial structure.

So, if anyone knows of a thread, or a list, or any advice that they could give/redirect me to, that would be hugely helpful.

One last question, I found a study done on 22 "ideal" female gaze male faces, and it had a total of about 15 ratios. Obviously, there are lists with far more ratios than this, but, to be clear, does the effectiveness of adding more ratios plateau at some point? Like would 15 ratios be essentially as useful as 50? Obviously, 1 ratio would be far less useful than 5, but at the same time, 2,000 ratios probably would be essentially the same as 3,000.

just good harmony

 

[HighIQ ubermensch]

look up 100+ very good looking guys & measure ratio of random things that come into your mind
If SD is too much then ignore it & If it's a narrow range then you can make a new theory about it.

I believe it could indeed help theory of Aesthetics especially when we talk about facial expressions instead of a Poker face

If you do that you can probably contribute to blackpill community & maybe get BOTB

 

[wamlamacadama]

look up 100+ very good looking guys & measure ratio of random things that come into your mind
If SD is too much then ignore it & If it's a narrow range then you can make a new theory about it.

I believe it could indeed help theory of Aesthetics especially when we talk about facial expressions instead of a Poker face

If you do that you can probably contribute to blackpill community & maybe get BOTB

that'd be sick. ill be working on it.

 

[Djimo]

If you do that you can probably contribute to blackpill community & maybe get BOTB

theres already a botb thread./

and the perfect formula simply just doesnt exist, thats due to each phenotype having different ideals and needing to measure each phenotype takes way to much time.

 

[HighIQ ubermensch]

theres already a botb thread./

and the perfect formula simply just doesnt exist, thats due to each phenotype having different ideals and needing to measure each phenotype takes way to much time.

a lot of info is lacking in scientific literature & BP about aesthetics

I don't think current model is even close to perfect

 

[wamlamacadama]

theres already a botb thread./

and the perfect formula simply just doesnt exist, thats due to each phenotype having different ideals and needing to measure each phenotype takes way to much time.

Is there an ideal caucasion or white pretty boy/robust pretty boy phenotype one? also, could you reply w the info of that botb thread, cant seem to find it for whatever reason

 

[Djimo]

a lot of info is lacking in scientific literature & BP about aesthetics

well not really, its just that nobody actually put in the work yet.

ofc some good raters like chronic x have their formulas but its still not optimal.

 

[Djimo]

cant seem to find it for whatever reason

https://looksmax.org/threads/a-conc...tings-and-male-beauty-characteristics.815024/ this is one of the botbs talking abt ratios.

Is there an ideal caucasion or white pretty boy/robust pretty boy phenotype one?

idk tbh. and 'caucasion' is a broad term, you have many and i say MANY different phenos in the caucasion humans.

 

[Djimo]

if you want to find out the ideals for a certain phenotype go look at some of the best looking people in the world like hernan drago

Hernan drago his phenotype is around the daelid/mediterranean meaning that hes mixed...
so now it only makes it worse, phenos can mix.


so if you are willing to spend tens of thousands of hours on this go ahead...​

 

[Faaska]

if you want to find out the ideals for a certain phenotype go look at some of the best looking people in the world like hernan drago
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Hernan drago his phenotype is around the daelid/mediterranean meaning that hes mixed...
so now it only makes it worse, phenos can mix.


so if you are willing to spend tens of thousands of hours on this go ahead...​

There is very much an ideal we have Eurocentric beauty standards for one and two you’ll find a lot of ratios maintain pretty well across vastly differing races

 

[Djimo]

There is very much an ideal we have Eurocentric beauty standards for one and two you’ll find a lot of ratios maintain pretty well across vastly differing races

theres no precise ideals, all of the measurements done are mostly on top models like sean, chico, gandy, hexum, schlab, drago, delon etc who dont share the same pheno.

even if you go and measure for example only the daelid pheno its still gonna take a while to find the most attractive people with that pheno.

so we dont have the exact knowledge about the ideal measurements for each phenotype.

 

[Faaska]

theres no precise ideals, all of the measurements done are mostly on top models like sean, chico, gandy, hexum, schlab, drago, delon etc who dont share the same pheno.

even if you go and measure for example only the daelid pheno its still gonna take a while to find the most attractive people with that pheno.

so we dont have the exact knowledge about the ideal measurements for each phenotype.

Phenos aren’t even scientifically accurate at all they’re used for monogenic traits. Look at babies of various races and say they are as different as their adult forms.

 

[Djimo]

Phenos aren’t even scientifically accurate at all they’re used for monogenic traits. Look at babies of various races and say they are as different as their adult forms.

and thats the reason why its near impossible to have precise data on the ideal measurements for each person.

 

[lilxder2]

isnt this literally what the PSL theory is based on