Identity, Race, & Tribalism = Retarded

Ultimate Subhuman™

Ultimate Subhuman™

X.E.C
Joined
Aug 13, 2023
Posts
11,719
Reputation
16,240
Essentially, viewing yourself as a member of groups. Race, country, politics, even friends and family. Anything you tie to your identity.
All it does it hold you back. Think of that common quote among depressed normies. The idea of being suicidal, but dissuaded because you don't want to hurt your family.

I bring up tribes and identity, but it's really your humanity you need to discard entirely. It gives you unlimited freedom. You don't attach yourself to ideals you don't truly care for anymore. Think of NEETdom and the communities here. NEETdom is the most logical choice to take, conserving as much energy/resources as possible. There are some cases where work is necessary yes, but most people can live off of their parents, yet don't, not due to any genuine passion, but societal pressures and fear of being a burden.
This isn't exclusive to normies. Even among outcasts. A lot of beliefs are held here purely because people want to be part of the group. A lot of the nonsensical views espoused on .org, I doubt many people actually believe them. They just like feeling part of a group, even if it is one as outcasted. Perhaps that's part of the appeal, since the views are so extreme that by default you are part of a group for having those views, or since they've been outcasted from normie society they can't integrate with them.
I've made this point before. It's ironic to me that a lot of the PSLsphere hates normies... while essentnially being failed normies themselves. Their behavior is the exact same.

Most users post the exact same recycled content, have the same opinions, the same recycled typing style, the vast majority of people wouldn't be recognizable by personality alone except for the absolute laughing stock jokes.
The superiority complex about believing in the blackpill (aka, looks being law) which is really just water and completely obvious is much like normies thinking they're being groundbreaking and fighting the establishment by supporting black lives matter or claiming to want to kill pedophiles. All trite.
One more thing I noticed, a lot of people shape their entire reactions based off of how they think they're "supposed" to react as a member of a certain identity group. Ever think it's weird how similar people of certain groups are (eg, gays all having similar voices, anyone who has lived around east Asian Americans can tell you how they all have the exact same interest in mobile games and sense of humor, and this holds up in areas with even few east Asians). Sure, you can say part of it is genetic, but a lot of it is them viewing themselves as a member x group, so only doing what a member x group would do. This can be tied to a variety of things that I'll get into in more detail a little later.

The point I'm getting to is that this runs so deep in society and humanity. Ultimately, everything we discuss about morality is connected to tribalism and identity. We deem certain groups as close to us, pure, righteous, "good", and certain groups as bad, "evil", the enemy. Then we justify violence against these groups, even claim it's moral: the example I brought up earlier of normies wanting to kill pedophiles and whatnot. Yet there's no real benefit gained from wishing harm against a group. It simply creates more suffering in the world. The objective should be to simply eliminate whatever causes the original suffering. But of course, that's not what people are looking for. They want an excuse to take out their violent urges while feeling "right". This is another form of it: it's what society and their identities have told them their entire lives, that this is wrong, and they limit themselves because of it. They want to fit their image of a "good person" and distort the truth for it, but what value is there in that?

If you want to be truly free, if you want to let go of yourself, you need to let go of those identities. Forget about yourself as anything, white, black, incel, male, NEET, whatever. Live only for yourself.

Forget all the pressures that hold you back. About your parents expectations, societies expectations, your peers expectations. The truth is that life is struggle and competition inherently. Any grain of food you eat, is a grain that someone else could not eat. Every sip of water you take is a sip that someone else did not drink. Any single cent that you make is a cent taken from someone else.
Besides, it should be fairly obvious. It's your life. You live entirely through your own perception. Forget anything that exists outside of that.​
 
Last edited:
  • +1
  • Love it
Reactions: Johan 556, ecstazy, PubertyMaxxer and 14 others
thank you
 
  • +1
Reactions: Ultimate Subhuman™
1763875843019
 
  • +1
  • JFL
  • Hmm...
Reactions: dudebroguy, Niko., Aladin and 1 other person
Essentially, viewing yourself as a member of groups. Race, country, politics, even friends and family. Anything you tie to your identity.
All it does it hold you back. Think of that common quote among depressed normies. The idea of being suicidal, but dissuaded because you don't want to hurt your family.

I bring up tribes and identity, but it's really your humanity you need to discard entirely. It gives you unlimited freedom. You don't attach yourself to ideals you don't truly care for anymore. Think of NEETdom and the communities here. NEETdom is the most logical choice to take, conserving as much energy/resources as possible. There are some cases where work is necessary yes, but most people can live off of their parents, yet don't, not due to any genuine passion, but societal pressures and fear of being a burden.
This isn't exclusive to normies. Even among outcasts. A lot of beliefs are held here purely because people want to be part of the group. A lot of the nonsensical views espoused on .org, I doubt many people actually believe them. They just like feeling part of a group, even if it is one as outcasted. Perhaps that's part of the appeal, since the views are so extreme that by default you are part of a group for having those views, or since they've been outcasted from normie society they can't integrate with them.
I've made this point before. It's ironic to me that a lot of the PSLsphere hates normies... while essentnially being failed normies themselves. Their behavior is the exact same.

Most users post the exact same recycled content, have the same opinions, the same recycled typing style, the vast majority of people wouldn't be recognizable by personality alone except for the absolute laughing stock jokes.
The superiority complex about believing in the blackpill (aka, looks being law) which is really just water and completely obvious is much like normies thinking they're being groundbreaking and fighting the establishment by supporting black lives matter or claiming to want to kill pedophiles. All trite.
One more thing I noticed, a lot of people shape their entire reactions based off of how they think they're "supposed" to react as a member of a certain identity group. Ever think it's weird how similar people of certain groups are (eg, gays all having similar voices, anyone who has lived around east Asian Americans can tell you how they all have the exact same interest in mobile games and sense of humor, and this holds up in areas with even few east Asians). Sure, you can say part of it is genetic, but a lot of it is them viewing themselves as a member x group, so only doing what a member x group would do. This can be tied to a variety of things that I'll get into in more detail a little later.

The point I'm getting to is that this runs so deep in society and humanity. Ultimately, everything we discuss about morality is connected to tribalism and identity. We deem certain groups as close to us, pure, righteous, "good", and certain groups as bad, "evil", the enemy. Then we justify violence against these groups, even claim it's moral: the example I brought up earlier of normies wanting to kill pedophiles and whatnot. Yet there's no real benefit gained from wishing harm against a group. It simply creates more suffering in the world. The objective should be to simply eliminate whatever causes the original suffering. But of course, that's not what people are looking for. They want an excuse to take out their violent urges while feeling "right". This is another form of it: it's what society and their identities have told them their entire lives, that this is wrong, and they limit themselves because of it. They want to fit their image of a "good person" and distort the truth for it, but what value is there in that?

If you want to be truly free, if you want to let go of yourself, you need to let go of those identities. Forget about yourself as anything, white, black, incel, male, NEET, whatever. Live only for yourself.

Forget all the pressures that hold you back. About your parents expectations, societies expectations, your peers expectations. The truth is that life is struggle and competition inherently. Any grain of food you eat, is a grain that someone else could not eat. Every sip of water you take is a sip that someone else did not drink. Any single cent that you make is a cent taken from someone else.
Besides, it should be fairly obvious. It's your life. You live entirely through your own perception. Forget anything that exists outside of that.​
ok cl
 
1763876395760
 
  • +1
Reactions: Ultimate Subhuman™
Proud to be Persian my nigga

Just as Italians should be proud and so on

Some cultures and history are superior, sorry Indians and Slavs
 
Proud to be Persian my nigga

Just as Italians should be proud and so on

Some cultures and history are superior, sorry Indians and Slavs
Pathetic. Every last one of these cultures
 
Essentially, viewing yourself as a member of groups. Race, country, politics, even friends and family. Anything you tie to your identity.
All it does it hold you back. Think of that common quote among depressed normies. The idea of being suicidal, but dissuaded because you don't want to hurt your family.

I bring up tribes and identity, but it's really your humanity you need to discard entirely. It gives you unlimited freedom. You don't attach yourself to ideals you don't truly care for anymore. Think of NEETdom and the communities here. NEETdom is the most logical choice to take, conserving as much energy/resources as possible. There are some cases where work is necessary yes, but most people can live off of their parents, yet don't, not due to any genuine passion, but societal pressures and fear of being a burden.
This isn't exclusive to normies. Even among outcasts. A lot of beliefs are held here purely because people want to be part of the group. A lot of the nonsensical views espoused on .org, I doubt many people actually believe them. They just like feeling part of a group, even if it is one as outcasted. Perhaps that's part of the appeal, since the views are so extreme that by default you are part of a group for having those views, or since they've been outcasted from normie society they can't integrate with them.
I've made this point before. It's ironic to me that a lot of the PSLsphere hates normies... while essentnially being failed normies themselves. Their behavior is the exact same.

Most users post the exact same recycled content, have the same opinions, the same recycled typing style, the vast majority of people wouldn't be recognizable by personality alone except for the absolute laughing stock jokes.
The superiority complex about believing in the blackpill (aka, looks being law) which is really just water and completely obvious is much like normies thinking they're being groundbreaking and fighting the establishment by supporting black lives matter or claiming to want to kill pedophiles. All trite.
One more thing I noticed, a lot of people shape their entire reactions based off of how they think they're "supposed" to react as a member of a certain identity group. Ever think it's weird how similar people of certain groups are (eg, gays all having similar voices, anyone who has lived around east Asian Americans can tell you how they all have the exact same interest in mobile games and sense of humor, and this holds up in areas with even few east Asians). Sure, you can say part of it is genetic, but a lot of it is them viewing themselves as a member x group, so only doing what a member x group would do. This can be tied to a variety of things that I'll get into in more detail a little later.

The point I'm getting to is that this runs so deep in society and humanity. Ultimately, everything we discuss about morality is connected to tribalism and identity. We deem certain groups as close to us, pure, righteous, "good", and certain groups as bad, "evil", the enemy. Then we justify violence against these groups, even claim it's moral: the example I brought up earlier of normies wanting to kill pedophiles and whatnot. Yet there's no real benefit gained from wishing harm against a group. It simply creates more suffering in the world. The objective should be to simply eliminate whatever causes the original suffering. But of course, that's not what people are looking for. They want an excuse to take out their violent urges while feeling "right". This is another form of it: it's what society and their identities have told them their entire lives, that this is wrong, and they limit themselves because of it. They want to fit their image of a "good person" and distort the truth for it, but what value is there in that?

If you want to be truly free, if you want to let go of yourself, you need to let go of those identities. Forget about yourself as anything, white, black, incel, male, NEET, whatever. Live only for yourself.

Forget all the pressures that hold you back. About your parents expectations, societies expectations, your peers expectations. The truth is that life is struggle and competition inherently. Any grain of food you eat, is a grain that someone else could not eat. Every sip of water you take is a sip that someone else did not drink. Any single cent that you make is a cent taken from someone else.
Besides, it should be fairly obvious. It's your life. You live entirely through your own perception. Forget anything that exists outside of that.​
I agree with you, and that’s what I always hated. I don’t want to be friends with someone just because we’re the same race, gender, or believe in the same ideology. But that’s just how it is, to “fit in” and to find your tribe. Those types of friendships to me are pointless, as if something was to be changed; they would no longer be friends with you. Forget all the pressures and live freely.
 
  • +1
  • Love it
Reactions: PubertyMaxxer, foidletslayer and Ultimate Subhuman™
great post and a lot to think about. I would counter this by arguing that this is a somewhat selfish way to think. A lot of us are where we are and have the opportunities we do because our community and family struggled out the mud for it. Maybe its just the culture I was raised in but I strongly feel when you have people who sacrificed so much for you to be where you are, you do have a sense of responsibility to them. If everyone lived the way you proposed, society would have never advanced to a fraction of where we are today, you can't discard these things that make you human because well you're a human.
 
  • +1
Reactions: Pento
I agree with you, and that’s what I always hated. I don’t want to be friends with someone just because we’re the same race, gender, or believe in the same ideology. But that’s just how it is, to “fit in” and to find your tribe. Those types of friendships to me are pointless, as if something was to be changed; they would no longer be friends with you. Forget all the pressures and live freely.


High IQ as expected from Pento
 
  • Love it
Reactions: Pento
great post and a lot to think about. I would counter this by arguing that this is a somewhat selfish way to think. A lot of us are where we are and have the opportunities we do because our community and family struggled out the mud for it. Maybe its just the culture I was raised in but I strongly feel when you have people who sacrificed so much for you to be where you are, you do have a sense of responsibility to them. If everyone lived the way you proposed, society would have never advanced to a fraction of where we are today, you can't discard these things that make you human because well you're a human.
Humans & any given animal of any given species are inherently Selfish. Selflessness is a human invention.
 
Humans & any given animal of any given species are inherently Selfish. Selflessness is a taught ideal.
This is true in many aspects, but close bonds such as family and community are where that selfishness often fades. Especially in asian cultures, it is very common to sacrifice your own well being for your kids and family.
 
  • +1
Reactions: roadtochang123
Essentially, viewing yourself as a member of groups. Race, country, politics, even friends and family. Anything you tie to your identity.
All it does it hold you back. Think of that common quote among depressed normies. The idea of being suicidal, but dissuaded because you don't want to hurt your family.

I bring up tribes and identity, but it's really your humanity you need to discard entirely. It gives you unlimited freedom. You don't attach yourself to ideals you don't truly care for anymore. Think of NEETdom and the communities here. NEETdom is the most logical choice to take, conserving as much energy/resources as possible. There are some cases where work is necessary yes, but most people can live off of their parents, yet don't, not due to any genuine passion, but societal pressures and fear of being a burden.
This isn't exclusive to normies. Even among outcasts. A lot of beliefs are held here purely because people want to be part of the group. A lot of the nonsensical views espoused on .org, I doubt many people actually believe them. They just like feeling part of a group, even if it is one as outcasted. Perhaps that's part of the appeal, since the views are so extreme that by default you are part of a group for having those views, or since they've been outcasted from normie society they can't integrate with them.
I've made this point before. It's ironic to me that a lot of the PSLsphere hates normies... while essentnially being failed normies themselves. Their behavior is the exact same.

Most users post the exact same recycled content, have the same opinions, the same recycled typing style, the vast majority of people wouldn't be recognizable by personality alone except for the absolute laughing stock jokes.
The superiority complex about believing in the blackpill (aka, looks being law) which is really just water and completely obvious is much like normies thinking they're being groundbreaking and fighting the establishment by supporting black lives matter or claiming to want to kill pedophiles. All trite.
One more thing I noticed, a lot of people shape their entire reactions based off of how they think they're "supposed" to react as a member of a certain identity group. Ever think it's weird how similar people of certain groups are (eg, gays all having similar voices, anyone who has lived around east Asian Americans can tell you how they all have the exact same interest in mobile games and sense of humor, and this holds up in areas with even few east Asians). Sure, you can say part of it is genetic, but a lot of it is them viewing themselves as a member x group, so only doing what a member x group would do. This can be tied to a variety of things that I'll get into in more detail a little later.

The point I'm getting to is that this runs so deep in society and humanity. Ultimately, everything we discuss about morality is connected to tribalism and identity. We deem certain groups as close to us, pure, righteous, "good", and certain groups as bad, "evil", the enemy. Then we justify violence against these groups, even claim it's moral: the example I brought up earlier of normies wanting to kill pedophiles and whatnot. Yet there's no real benefit gained from wishing harm against a group. It simply creates more suffering in the world. The objective should be to simply eliminate whatever causes the original suffering. But of course, that's not what people are looking for. They want an excuse to take out their violent urges while feeling "right". This is another form of it: it's what society and their identities have told them their entire lives, that this is wrong, and they limit themselves because of it. They want to fit their image of a "good person" and distort the truth for it, but what value is there in that?

If you want to be truly free, if you want to let go of yourself, you need to let go of those identities. Forget about yourself as anything, white, black, incel, male, NEET, whatever. Live only for yourself.

Forget all the pressures that hold you back. About your parents expectations, societies expectations, your peers expectations. The truth is that life is struggle and competition inherently. Any grain of food you eat, is a grain that someone else could not eat. Every sip of water you take is a sip that someone else did not drink. Any single cent that you make is a cent taken from someone else.
Besides, it should be fairly obvious. It's your life. You live entirely through your own perception. Forget anything that exists outside of that.​
Hmm, you are talking like identity is some random weight you can drop the moment you decide to. The problem is that the second you look at how people actually act in real life or in history, identity is the thing shaping every decision. It is not something you choose. It is something that frames how you interpret every idea. even the most “universal” philosophies/ideas got twisted by group loyalty the moment real people tried to use them

You keep claiming that abandoning identity gives you freedom. Look at what happened to Rousseau’s general will. It was supposed to be about civic unity and equality. Once later thinkers got hold of it, they changed it to fit their own group. Fichte turned it into national spirit. Hegel made the state the highest moral authority. Treitschke and chamberlain turned it into racial mythology. Hitler used it to justify an aryan racial state. None of this came from people transcending identity. It happened because identity is the lens they saw everything through. if people could escape identity, dont you think that Rousseaus ideas would not have been twisted so easily?

rejecting identity does not free you. It just leaves you unprotected while everyone else keeps acting through their group, their tribe. That is the same reason Rousseaus ideas were so easy to hijack. Without belonging or boundaries, you become the easiest person to overpower
 
  • +1
Reactions: roadtochang123
Essentially, viewing yourself as a member of groups. Race, country, politics, even friends and family. Anything you tie to your identity.
All it does it hold you back. Think of that common quote among depressed normies. The idea of being suicidal, but dissuaded because you don't want to hurt your family.

I bring up tribes and identity, but it's really your humanity you need to discard entirely. It gives you unlimited freedom. You don't attach yourself to ideals you don't truly care for anymore. Think of NEETdom and the communities here. NEETdom is the most logical choice to take, conserving as much energy/resources as possible. There are some cases where work is necessary yes, but most people can live off of their parents, yet don't, not due to any genuine passion, but societal pressures and fear of being a burden.
This isn't exclusive to normies. Even among outcasts. A lot of beliefs are held here purely because people want to be part of the group. A lot of the nonsensical views espoused on .org, I doubt many people actually believe them. They just like feeling part of a group, even if it is one as outcasted. Perhaps that's part of the appeal, since the views are so extreme that by default you are part of a group for having those views, or since they've been outcasted from normie society they can't integrate with them.
I've made this point before. It's ironic to me that a lot of the PSLsphere hates normies... while essentnially being failed normies themselves. Their behavior is the exact same.

Most users post the exact same recycled content, have the same opinions, the same recycled typing style, the vast majority of people wouldn't be recognizable by personality alone except for the absolute laughing stock jokes.
The superiority complex about believing in the blackpill (aka, looks being law) which is really just water and completely obvious is much like normies thinking they're being groundbreaking and fighting the establishment by supporting black lives matter or claiming to want to kill pedophiles. All trite.
One more thing I noticed, a lot of people shape their entire reactions based off of how they think they're "supposed" to react as a member of a certain identity group. Ever think it's weird how similar people of certain groups are (eg, gays all having similar voices, anyone who has lived around east Asian Americans can tell you how they all have the exact same interest in mobile games and sense of humor, and this holds up in areas with even few east Asians). Sure, you can say part of it is genetic, but a lot of it is them viewing themselves as a member x group, so only doing what a member x group would do. This can be tied to a variety of things that I'll get into in more detail a little later.

The point I'm getting to is that this runs so deep in society and humanity. Ultimately, everything we discuss about morality is connected to tribalism and identity. We deem certain groups as close to us, pure, righteous, "good", and certain groups as bad, "evil", the enemy. Then we justify violence against these groups, even claim it's moral: the example I brought up earlier of normies wanting to kill pedophiles and whatnot. Yet there's no real benefit gained from wishing harm against a group. It simply creates more suffering in the world. The objective should be to simply eliminate whatever causes the original suffering. But of course, that's not what people are looking for. They want an excuse to take out their violent urges while feeling "right". This is another form of it: it's what society and their identities have told them their entire lives, that this is wrong, and they limit themselves because of it. They want to fit their image of a "good person" and distort the truth for it, but what value is there in that?

If you want to be truly free, if you want to let go of yourself, you need to let go of those identities. Forget about yourself as anything, white, black, incel, male, NEET, whatever. Live only for yourself.

Forget all the pressures that hold you back. About your parents expectations, societies expectations, your peers expectations. The truth is that life is struggle and competition inherently. Any grain of food you eat, is a grain that someone else could not eat. Every sip of water you take is a sip that someone else did not drink. Any single cent that you make is a cent taken from someone else.
Besides, it should be fairly obvious. It's your life. You live entirely through your own perception. Forget anything that exists outside of that.​
Water.
 
  • +1
Reactions: Ultimate Subhuman™
“Bro being part of a tribe holds people back”

“Just be a NEET bro”

:feelsuhh:
 
“Bro being part of a tribe holds people back”

“Just be a NEET bro”

:feelsuhh:
Not in Education, Employment, or Training = NON SLAVE
 
How many people can be NEET for several decades straight?
Every human ever can go their lives without Education, Training, or Employment
 
Tribalism and nationalistic ideals makes sense but just for certain ethnic groups that are unic and distinguishable from other races tbh. The only scenarios in which these ideals might make sense, in my opinion, are among the Japanese, Swedes (aryans) and some African tribes.

Everything else makes sense, I follow kinda the same path but you must be careful not to have a lifestyle that tears you too far from the earth, from nature, what you want is to be in a state of fulfillment, not sunstroke; sporadic human interactions aren't so bad either. Everything else is a piece on the chessboard that plays to your advantage.
 
Banger thread
 
  • +1
Reactions: Ultimate Subhuman™
Race and the like are arbitrary social constructs without a biological basis.
 
  • +1
Reactions: Ultimate Subhuman™

Similar threads

BigJimsWornOutTires
Replies
3
Views
59
BigJimsWornOutTires
BigJimsWornOutTires
personalitymaxxer06
Replies
5
Views
38
Divineincel
Divineincel
FutureSlayer
Replies
12
Views
110
FutureSlayer
FutureSlayer
Jason Voorhees
Replies
30
Views
264
zerofad3
zerofad3
gintoki sataka
Replies
13
Views
127
GonorrhoeaGobbler
GonorrhoeaGobbler

Users who are viewing this thread

Back
Top