If a girl doesn’t find you instantly attractive is it over

[axttt_]

Do you think women can develop that attraction or it has to be instant

 

[Prøphet]

Love at first sight is real

 

[muhammad18347]

Do you think women can develop that attraction or it has to be instant

If it's developed attraction wouldn't that suggest it's from personality which is a fucking lie. So ig if women don't instantly find u attractive it's over

 

[greycel]

Love at first sight is real

No such thing
It's always lust

 

[registerfasterusing]

Do you think women can develop that attraction

yes

 

[Incelforeever]

Wata, and even if she somehow developed attraction towards u, it will fade away quickly

 

[voqdtuglord]

Do you think women can develop that attraction or it has to be instant

Depends how good ur ascension is lmao

 

[axttt_]

If it's developed attraction wouldn't that suggest it's from personality which is a fucking lie. So ig if women don't instantly find u attractive it's over

yeah i agree , so many foids say they developed feelings but i feel like if that attraction isn’t there instantly you will inevitably be cheated on someone who she has real biological attraction to

 

[axttt_]

yes

how though , it should be something instant and biological

 

[registerfasterusing]

They can 110% develop attraction nigguh ik this for a fact @greycel

 

[muhammad18347]

No such thing
It's always lust

That is true so then how does someone love someone else is it personality?

 

[muhammad18347]

They can 110% develop attraction nigguh ik this for a fact @greycel

Why the 10%

 

[axttt_]

No such thing
It's always lust

but don’t you think attraction is deeply biological and should be immediate i don’t see how it can be developed without her still yearning for men who she has real sexual attraction for

 

[registerfasterusing]

how though , it should be something instant and biological

Assuming that every human instinct is inherently biological/physical is a mistake

 

[DrunkenSailor]

Tbh in 2025 if she is not attracted its not worth the effort

 

[axttt_]

Assuming that every human instinct is inherently biological/physical is a mistake

dont you think that forced attraction ends up with someone being cheated on by their partner finding someone they have more sexual attraction towards

 

[registerfasterusing]

dont you think that forced attraction ends up with someone being cheated on by their partner finding someone they have more sexual attraction towards

It’s not ‘forced’

 

[swt]

i was unattractive when she first met me years ago because i was going thru stuff mentally and did stuff to my appearance

and nowadays i look pretty good id say,

i would HOPE she sees that and has developed more attraction than initially, but shes shown me nothing but love the whole way thru so i have no idea

 

[greycel]

They can 110% develop attraction nigguh ik this for a fact @greycel

That is true so then how does someone love someone else is it personality?

I thought about this a lot. This is the conclusion I came to.

Love is when it stretches beyond what they provide, whether it be their looks/ the amount of money they have/ etc.
You have strong feelings for them even in their worst moments.
Quite a few women leave a guy when he's hit rock bottom, because they never were in love with the person

For a relationship to work, there doesn't even need to be love. Plenty of couples nowadays fool themselves into believing they are

But I think in a relationship for it to be worthwhile. both parties need to love sufficiently.
On average where do the bars lie for both?

It depends on what the men and women expect.
Men give much more and require less
Women give much less and require more

The giving part is largely fixed. Men are the breadwinners + protectors + emotionally stable rocks to rely on + need to be attractive.. women just need to be attractive (+ some prefer nurturing qualities for motherhood)

For a relationship to have meaning, the man requires less. So for love to exist he has to overlook less (largely his attraction to the girl).
I wouldn't say a woman has to "love more/deeper", but the bar is higher in terms of things she has to overlook. Naturally, less women would be in love because of it

 

[registerfasterusing]

I thought about this a lot. This is the conclusion I came to.

Love is when it stretches beyond what they provide, whether it be their looks/ the amount of money they have/ etc.
You have strong feelings for them even in their worst moments.
Quite a few women leave a guy when he's hit rock bottom, because they never were in love with the person

For a relationship to work, there doesn't even need to be love. Plenty of couples nowadays fool themselves into believeing they are

But I think in a relationship for it to be worthwhile. both parties need to love sufficiently.
On average where do the bars lie for both?

It depends on what the men and women expect.
Men give much more and require less
Women give much less and require more

The giving part is largely fixed. Men are the breadwinners + protectors + emotionally stable rocks to rely on + need to be attractive.. women just need to be attractive (+ some prefer nurturing qualities for motherhood)

For a relationship to have meaning, the man requires less. So for love to exist he has to overlook less (largely his attraction to the girl).
I wouldn't say a woman has to "love more/deeper", but the bar is higher in terms of things she has to overlook. Naturally, less women would be in love because of it

I’d be curious to hear ur thoughts on this

I recently watched “An Artist’s Story” by Chekhov in class and it reminded my of this essay I read (GIGA BLACKPILL)

https://avellopublishing.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/lacan-and-the-concept-of-the-beautiful-1.doc That art speaks of the primordial fantasy is also hinted at by Freud. What is involved in the artistic activity is not a simple undirected shaping of the matter, but an essential...

looksmax.org

 

[greycel]

I’d be curious to hear ur thoughts on this

I recently watched “An Artist’s Story” by Chekhov in class and it reminded my of this essay I read (GIGA BLACKPILL)

https://avellopublishing.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/lacan-and-the-concept-of-the-beautiful-1.doc That art speaks of the primordial fantasy is also hinted at by Freud. What is involved in the artistic activity is not a simple undirected shaping of the matter, but an essential...

looksmax.org

It looks interesting
I'll read it in depth tomorrow

I want to look into what you're referencing in the thread too

 

[registerfasterusing]

It looks interesting
I'll read it in depth tomorrow

I want to look into what you're referencing in the thread too

U mean this thread? Or the link I posted in the other one

 

[pfl]

No such thing
It's always lust

Then wouldn’t that be ideal

 

[greycel]

U mean this thread? Or the link I posted in the other one

Both
I can give it a half ass read in my current state , but since it's high effort I want to reserve it for tomorrow

 

[Klasik616]

Do you think women can develop that attraction or it has to be instant

In my experience, they NEVER develop attraction. That's "hope and cope" of men who think they will develop attraction overtime. It's always INSTANT, the first 10 minutes you meet her decides 90%. But she can *only lose attraction with time.

 

[registerfasterusing]

The thread
I can give it a half ass read in my current state , but since it's high effort I want to reserve it for tomorrow

Yeah it’s psychoanalysis, Freud and Lacan

 

[fwasn.]

Do you think women can develop that attraction or it has to be instant

I'm gonna be honest, if she just grew attracted to you it will very likely just fade away in a couple of months or quicker.

 

[axttt_]

In my experience, they NEVER develop attraction. That's "hope and cope" of men who think they will develop attraction overtime. It's always INSTANT, the first 10 minutes you meet her decides 90%. But she can *only lose attraction with time.

i agree and i don't think there's anything wrong with that , its not her fault she cant control her biology but idk why people want to cope about it

 

[axttt_]

I thought about this a lot. This is the conclusion I came to.

Love is when it stretches beyond what they provide, whether it be their looks/ the amount of money they have/ etc.
You have strong feelings for them even in their worst moments.
Quite a few women leave a guy when he's hit rock bottom, because they never were in love with the person

For a relationship to work, there doesn't even need to be love. Plenty of couples nowadays fool themselves into believing they are

But I think in a relationship for it to be worthwhile. both parties need to love sufficiently.
On average where do the bars lie for both?

It depends on what the men and women expect.
Men give much more and require less
Women give much less and require more

The giving part is largely fixed. Men are the breadwinners + protectors + emotionally stable rocks to rely on + need to be attractive.. women just need to be attractive (+ some prefer nurturing qualities for motherhood)

For a relationship to have meaning, the man requires less. So for love to exist he has to overlook less (largely his attraction to the girl).
I wouldn't say a woman has to "love more/deeper", but the bar is higher in terms of things she has to overlook. Naturally, less women would be in love because of it

what % of couples would you estimate are actually in love and what % are just in transactional relationships or dont wanna be alone , feel pressured by society to settle down etc.

 

[iamaincel]

Do you think women can develop that attraction or it has to be instant

weird how girls wont develop attraction while they can for sure lose attraction to someone

 

[buddhistking]

Girls that get horny for you as soon as they see you tend to be terra-whores that get horny for every guy that they meet (unless ur chadlite +)

Real relationships (aka the vast majority) are built on a guy working to get the woman

 

[greycel]

Then wouldn’t that be ideal

Nah its empty
Look at it this way. Person 1 is wearing a full body suit that covers their entire body.
Person 1 looks at the full body suit Person 2 is wearing, and decides to spend the rest of their life with them.

P1 doesn't care about who P2 is underneath, they only care about the suit.

That suit could've been on Person 3 and they would've spent their entire life with a different human.
Why would P2 want to live with P1, knowing that the suit is the only thing keeping them

Person 2 might get their suit torn up in an accident, and then person 1 leaves

Person 2's suit will eventually wear out, and then Person 1 is looking for the next best suit.

It was always about the suit. Never the person

And this is the superficial life that most people in today's society are living

 

[greycel]

what % of couples would you estimate are actually in love and what % are just in transactional relationships or dont wanna be alone , feel pressured by society to settle down etc.

In west, maybe 10% of people in relationships are in love

 

[axttt_]

In west, maybe 10% of people in relationships are in love

that’s generous i’d say tbh