If raised in the right environment, any man can reach 6 foot and have good features

[Luke LLL]

Title, humans are growing taller not because of evolution, but because our environment is improving. Any man has the potential to become chad if the parents have the knowledge to raise them properly.

 

[Deleted member 2756]

obviously, environment is important but genetics come out on top.

 

[Luke LLL]

obviously, environment is important but genetics come out on top.

No they don’t. Environment can destroy your genetics. Preferably we would want both.

 

[john_cope]

Retarded.

obviously, environment is important but genetics come out on top.

Genetics are the environment tbh

 

[reptiles]

obviously, environment is important but genetics come out on top.

If you wanna get more accurate phenotype is

 

[Deleted member 2756]

Retarded.

Genetics are the environment tbh

holy shit, this.

 

[fukmylyf]

being short is a choice?

 

[godsmistake]

agree

 

[turkproducer]

I’m not sure about this, I think plenty of people have a generic max of below 6’0. I think I’m one of them

That being said I stunted my growth by

- stressful childhood (family and school)
- vidya everyday hours on end till 14/15
- social rejection
- Undereating/shitty food
- high BF
- Weed/cigarettes at 15/16/ substances at 16/17 (not too often tbh)

Retarded.

Genetics are the environment tbh

what you mean by this?

 

[Alexanderr]

I’m not sure about this, I think plenty of people have a generic max of below 6’0. I think I’m one of them

That being said I stunted my growth by

- stressful childhood (family and school)
- vidya everyday hours on end till 14/15
- social rejection
- Undereating/shitty food
- high BF
- Weed/cigarettes at 15/16/ substances at 16/17 (not too often tbh)

Are you sure you stunted your growth? I’ve read that it’s very very hard to actually stunt your growth.

 

[turkproducer]

Are you sure you stunted your growth? I’ve read that it’s very very hard to actually stunt your growth.

I’m 100% not sure, but I guess I probably have. And yes if you think about it, there’s so many athletes/basketball players with shit tier environment who grew to be 6’8 with huge frame. I think nutrition and sleep are the most important, everything after that is pretty minor. If I had to estimate I’d say if you had 2-3 meals everyday and slept something every night (6-7 hours) then you probably couldn’t have missed more than 1, maybe 2 inches IMO

 

[Alexanderr]

I’m 100% not sure, but I guess I probably have. And yes if you think about it, there’s so many athletes/basketball players with shit tier environment who grew to be 6’8 with huge frame. I think nutrition and sleep are the most important, everything after that is pretty minor. If I had to estimate I’d say if you had 2-3 meals everyday and slept something every night (6-7 hours) then you probably couldn’t have missed more than 1, maybe 2 inches IMO

I highly doubt you actually stunted your growth or stunted it significantly enough. It’s probably just your genes. Remember, there’s African tribes in which the average male height is 6’4 while they barely have any food to eat and shit.

 

[Deleted member 1560]

Jfl ngl

 

[turkproducer]

I highly doubt you actually stunted your growth or stunted it significantly enough. It’s probably just your genes. Remember, there’s African tribes in which the average male height is 6’4 while they barely have any food to eat and shit.

Yeah I do think it’s hugely genetics I think the problem is the fact that we don’t know for sure that makes me think I could have. How do you know they barely have any food to eat? If anything they should maximise genetic potential because of the healthy natural lifestyle + no kikes putting esteogen in the environment lol

 

[ldar = cope]

Retarded.

Genetics are the environment tbh

yep
diet/lifestyle -> health -> epigenetics -> genes
and genetic recombination

 

[Alexanderr]

How do you know they barely have any food to eat?

Because they’re poor.

If anything they should maximise genetic potential because of the healthy natural lifestyle environment lol

Doubt it, there’s a reason people in underdeveloped countries are shorter on average.

 

[turkproducer]

yep
diet/lifestyle -> health -> epigenetics -> genes
and genetic recombination

Epigenetics is the belief that your appearance after puberty is due to how you try to influence it during puberty right? I wonder how much i’ve fucked myself over if this is the case

Doubt it, there’s a reason people in underdeveloped countries are shorter on average.

Isn’t this admitting that environment matters then??

 

[john_cope]

Because they’re poor.

Doubt it, there’s a reason people in underdeveloped countries are shorter on average.

whats the point of your post, it doesnt make any sense

 

[Alexanderr]

whats the point of your post, it doesnt make any sense

What? Which post?

 

[turkproducer]

Because they’re poor.

Yeah but they catch their own food? jfl but yeah i’m sure that would be better than eating estrogrn injected dairy in the West lol

 

[Alexanderr]

Isn’t this admitting that environment matters then??

It does, but it matters less than genetics.

 

[john_cope]

Epigenetics is the belief that your appearance after puberty is due to how you try to influence it during puberty right?

Epigenetics is how genes are activated or otherwise left dormant. For instance injecting exogenous testosterone might activate genes related to muscle growth (even besides the testosterone's normal masculinizing functions). I'm not an expert though so maybe I'm wording it poorly.

 

[turkproducer]

whats the point of your post, it doesnt make any sense

Do you believe in environment mattering more or very important in comparison to genetics then?

 

[Alexanderr]

Yeah but they catch their own food? jfl but yeah i’m sure that would be better than eating estrogrn injected dairy in the West lol

Yes, but they obviously have a limited amount of foods they can regularly eat.

 

[turkproducer]

It does, but it matters less than genetics.

Yeah I just wonder how much I fucked myself, my environment wasn’t the best at all

 

[john_cope]

Spoiler: Epigenetics from wikipedia

[ISPOILER]"
DNA damage can also cause epigenetic changes.[25][26][27] DNA damage is very frequent, occurring on average about 60,000 times a day per cell of the human body (see DNA damage (naturally occurring)). These damages are largely repaired, but at the site of a DNA repair, epigenetic changes can remain.[28] In particular, a double strand break in DNA can initiate unprogrammed epigenetic gene silencing both by causing DNA methylation as well as by promoting silencing types of histone modifications (chromatin remodeling - see next section).[29] In addition, the enzyme Parp1 (poly(ADP)-ribose polymerase) and its product poly(ADP)-ribose (PAR) accumulate at sites of DNA damage as part of a repair process.[30] This accumulation, in turn, directs recruitment and activation of the chromatin remodeling protein ALC1 that can cause nucleosome remodeling.[31] Nucleosome remodeling has been found to cause, for instance, epigenetic silencing of DNA repair gene MLH1.[18][32] DNA damaging chemicals, such as benzene, hydroquinone, styrene, carbon tetrachloride and trichloroethylene, cause considerable hypomethylation of DNA, some through the activation of oxidative stress pathways.[33]

Foods are known to alter the epigenetics of rats on different diets.[34] Some food components epigenetically increase the levels of DNA repair enzymes such as MGMT and MLH1[35] and p53.[36][37] Other food components can reduce DNA damage, such as soy isoflavones. In one study, markers for oxidative stress, such as modified nucleotides that can result from DNA damage, were decreased by a 3-week diet supplemented with soy.[38] A decrease in oxidative DNA damage was also observed 2 h after consumption of anthocyanin-rich bilberry (Vaccinium myrtillius L.) pomace extract.[39]
"[/ISPOILER]

 

[turkproducer]

Epigenetics is how genes are activated or otherwise left dormant. For instance injecting exogenous testosterone might activate genes related to muscle growth (even besides the testosterone's normal masculinizing functions). I'm not an expert though so maybe I'm wording it poorly.

Thanks, I wonder how much I fucked myself up everyday

Spoiler: Epigenetics from wikipedia

[ISPOILER]"
DNA damage can also cause epigenetic changes.[25][26][27] DNA damage is very frequent, occurring on average about 60,000 times a day per cell of the human body (see DNA damage (naturally occurring)). These damages are largely repaired, but at the site of a DNA repair, epigenetic changes can remain.[28] In particular, a double strand break in DNA can initiate unprogrammed epigenetic gene silencing both by causing DNA methylation as well as by promoting silencing types of histone modifications (chromatin remodeling - see next section).[29] In addition, the enzyme Parp1 (poly(ADP)-ribose polymerase) and its product poly(ADP)-ribose (PAR) accumulate at sites of DNA damage as part of a repair process.[30] This accumulation, in turn, directs recruitment and activation of the chromatin remodeling protein ALC1 that can cause nucleosome remodeling.[31] Nucleosome remodeling has been found to cause, for instance, epigenetic silencing of DNA repair gene MLH1.[18][32] DNA damaging chemicals, such as benzene, hydroquinone, styrene, carbon tetrachloride and trichloroethylene, cause considerable hypomethylation of DNA, some through the activation of oxidative stress pathways.[33]

Foods are known to alter the epigenetics of rats on different diets.[34] Some food components epigenetically increase the levels of DNA repair enzymes such as MGMT and MLH1[35] and p53.[36][37] Other food components can reduce DNA damage, such as soy isoflavones. In one study, markers for oxidative stress, such as modified nucleotides that can result from DNA damage, were decreased by a 3-week diet supplemented with soy.[38] A decrease in oxidative DNA damage was also observed 2 h after consumption of anthocyanin-rich bilberry (Vaccinium myrtillius L.) pomace extract.[39]
"[/ISPOILER]

I don’t really understand, can you explain

 

[john_cope]

Yeah I just wonder how much I fucked myself, my environment wasn’t the best at all

Just make sure you do not settle for any girl below your looks match. If anything, try to exploit personality differences and fashions (example: korean guys k-popmaxxing) to try to date up. Then make sure your kids have a good environment playing sports, getting sleep, not eating trash food.

 

[turkproducer]

Just make sure you do not settle for any girl below your looks match. If anything, try to exploit personality differences and fashions (example: korean guys k-popmaxxing) to try to date up. Then make sure your kids have a good environment playing sports, getting sleep, not eating trash food.

Bro I’m never having kids lol. or marrying

Just make sure you do not settle for any girl below your looks match. If anything, try to exploit personality differences and fashions (example: korean guys k-popmaxxing) to try to date up. Then make sure your kids have a good environment playing sports, getting sleep, not eating trash food.

I do fine with my face and height but i’m only 17 so it only gets harder from here on lit

 

[john_cope]

Bro I’m never having kids lol. or marrying

you'll change your mind in a couple years

 

[turkproducer]

you'll change your mind in a couple years

Nah I won’t, a woman i know (supposedly lost her virginity at 26), married still divorceraping a man. and she treats her beta bux like shit lol

 

[john_cope]

Nah I won’t, a woman i know (supposedly lost her virginity at 26), married still divorceraping a man. and she treats her beta bux like shit lol

Being scared of divorce is such a beta-male cope.

 

[Deleted member 2095]

Cope.
Height is 97% genetics
-if you weren’t malnourished in the first 3 yrs of your life, you aren’t stunted

 

[turkproducer]

Being scared of divorce is such a beta-male cope.
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How? I would rather not get divorce raped LOL? The truth is if I could have a happy nuclear family like my grandparents (met at 7, still together at 74) then i 100% would. How can you expect a woman to love you when they’ve been ran through by so many chads? Can’t pair bond anymore bro.

 

[Blackout.xl]

I’m not sure about this, I think plenty of people have a generic max of below 6’0. I think I’m one of them

That being said I stunted my growth by

- stressful childhood (family and school)
- vidya everyday hours on end till 14/15
- social rejection
- Undereating/shitty food
- high BF
- Weed/cigarettes at 15/16/ substances at 16/17 (not too often tbh)

what you mean by this?

Cope

 

[Roping Subhuman]

Environment is one of the stupidest Copes to Come out of psl. it's a pathetic Cope for Incels who like to blame 'Environment' instead of their Subhuman genes. i mean like wtf do you even mean when you say 'Environment', do you think short people were raised in concentration camps? JFL.

For anecdotal evidence why muh Environment is flawed: Me and my cousin were raised together, we ate the same for the most part, we did the same sports, etc... and yet he's 6'7+ and i'm 5'2. why do you think that's the case?

 

[turkproducer]

Cope

how’s that cope? So you’re telling me those factors aren’t enough to stunt growth when cigarettes alone before puberty are said to stunt growth by an inch? and marijuana by 4 inches before puberty?

 

[Blackout.xl]

Cope.
Height is 97% genetics
-if you weren’t malnourished in the first 3 yrs of your life, you aren’t stunted

No. If you’re malnourished during puberty and you’re going through hunger / starvation during puberty, you’ll be stunted hard. But that’s impossible in the western world so next to no one on this forum can claim this as a reason for their height being bad.

 

[Roping Subhuman]

No. If you’re malnourished during puberty and you’re going through hunger / starvation during puberty, you’ll be stunted hard. But that’s impossible in the western world so next to no one on this forum can claim this as a reason for their height being bad.

Exactly. unless you were malnourished during puberty Environment isn't why you're short.

 

[Deleted member 2095]

No. If you’re malnourished during puberty and you’re going through hunger / starvation during puberty, you’ll be stunted hard. But that’s impossible in the western world so next to no one on this forum can claim this as a reason for their height being bad.

You have no idea what you’re talking about you literal low IQ cuck. Malnourishment only matters before puberty

 

[Blackout.xl]

You have no idea what you’re talking about you literal low IQ cuck. Malnourishment only matters before puberty

JFL for actually thinking getting food in such low quantities to where you are starving and malnourished (DURING PUBERTY) doesn’t stunt growth. You match your profile pic very well.

 

[Deleted member 2095]

JFL for actually thinking getting food in such low quantities to where you are starving and malnourished (DURING PUBERTY) doesn’t stunt growth. You match your profile pic very well.

you utter cuck show me your sources

 

[Blackout.xl]

you utter cuck show me your sources

https://healthyeating.sfgate.com/kind-poor-nutrition-can-stunt-teenagers-growth-6313.html

Don’t be angry my son.

how’s that cope? So you’re telling me those factors aren’t enough to stunt growth when cigarettes alone before puberty are said to stunt growth by an inch? and marijuana by 4 inches before puberty?

It’s pure cope my son.

Walk into almost any elementary school in the hood and you’ll find many kids who will admit to smoking weed. Yet a good amount of these same kids who smoke weed at 12 end up reaching 6’6 or over by 16-18. Do you think these college ball players who came from bad neighbourhoods never touched a blunt in their youth?

 

[Deleted member 2095]

https://healthyeating.sfgate.com/kind-poor-nutrition-can-stunt-teenagers-growth-6313.html

Don’t be angry my son.

What kind of kike website is that? I only see ads and an article written by a 60 year old post-menopausal single mom. Where are your actual scientific articles? Of course starving will stunt your growth to some degree, I was talking bad eating habits like eating fast food, chips, soda,.. which people here often seem to blame for their "stunted growth", which is bullshit

 

[Blackout.xl]

What kind of kike website is that? I only see ads and an article written by a 60 year old post-menopausal single mom. Where are your actual scientific articles? Of course starving will stunt your growth to some degree, I was talking bad eating habits like eating fast food, chips, soda,.. which people here often seem to blame for their "stunted growth", which is bullshit

I’m not talking about that. Infact I disagree with people who say eating bad food stunts your growth, I ate bad shit from age 8 till now yet I’m still 6’4. I think we just had a misunderstanding.

 

[currymax]

No they don’t. Environment can destroy your genetics. Preferably we would want both.

Mushhead cope

 

[Deleted member 2486]

its 99% genetics

 

[Vitruvian]

People are getting taller because sexual selection. And mutations. How many times have you planted a flower and it grew to the moon? Jfl genetics > life

 

[Luke LLL]

being short is a choice?

It’s your parents choice

Are you sure you stunted your growth? I’ve read that it’s very very hard to actually stunt your growth.

He may not have ‘stunted his growth’ but he surely didn’t have a 10/10 environment so we can guarantee that he didn’t reach his genetic potential.

 

[rockndogs]

If raised in the right environment, any man can reach YOUR NEGATIVE IQ LEVEL. JFL