If somebody was bred to be a evil killer

[Incelforeever]

would u hold them morally accountable for killing ur family?

 

[Incelforeever]

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[Incelforeever]

@FiendFiend @annenisikeyim @Anamnesis @Quiintesssence.

 

[Recession.]

shit posting to the max today

 

[FiendFiend]

would u hold them morally accountable for killing ur family?

yes

 

[Incelforeever]

shit posting to the max today

nah serious

 

[Incelforeever]

yes

why

 

[AustrianMogger]

would u hold them morally accountable for killing ur family?

probably me

 

[Incelforeever]

probably me

U are the killer? ok @FiendFiend if @AustrianMogger killed ur family but he was programed from a young age is that on him?

 

[FiendFiend]

would u hold them morally accountable for killing ur family?

there is still good in people and a choice even in the darkest of situations, even if its a 1% possibility. Still had the ability to not do it.

However if it was like they were trained by the FBI to kill my family or whatever then as long as he shows regret and didnt want to do it, and wont harm anymore people, i would gladly take him in and rehabilitate bro.

If its just some random maniac who is just slaughtering random people yeah no hes a threat and if i had a gun id shoot him

 

[FiendFiend]

U are the killer? ok @FiendFiend if @AustrianMogger killed ur family but he was programed from a young age is that on him?

yes it is. Ur not just a droid u have the ability to make a choice

 

[Incelforeever]

there is still good in people and a choice even in the darkest of situations, even if its a 1% possibility. Still had the ability to not do it.

However if it was like they were trained by the FBI to kill my family or whatever then as long as he shows regret and didnt want to do it, and wont harm anymore people, i would gladly take him in and rehabilitate bro.

If its just some random maniac who is just slaughtering random people yeah no hes a threat and if i had a gun id shoot him

More like

not exactly the brainwashusing technology more like teaching them from day 1 to be evil and turn into killers

 

[Incelforeever]

yes it is. Ur not just a droid u have the ability to make a choice

u underestmait the ability to shape a new born brain

 

[Apchun144]

would u hold them morally accountable for killing ur family?

Yes
But i’ll hold their parents even more

 

[Incelforeever]

Yes
But i’ll hold their parents even more

but what if the parents were bred the same, what if its a big line. What if u were born to that family instead, do u know how u would turn out?

 

[FiendFiend]

u underestmait the ability to shape a new born brain

im very aware , especially as a kid, but i do believe as a person matures they have the decision to choose between right and wrong. If it was a 9 year old kid, if i wasnt there to defend my family and hes caught, id want the parents prosecuted or whoever bred him to be killer not the kid.

I do think as u start moving towards adolescence and beyond there is less excuses that can be made. I think even if ur raised in a "shit way" there are often times where u instinctively what if what ur gonna do is right or wrong but u sitll go ahead with the wrong option. Thats why i would not feel sympathy for them, especially if theres no possibility of rehabilitation.

One small tiny decision can shift peoples lives, free will is real.

 

[Heretic]

Yeah because killing is morally bad

 

[Incelforeever]

im very aware , especially as a kid, but i do believe as a person matures they have the decision to choose between right and wrong. If it was a 9 year old kid, if i wasnt there to defend my family and hes caught, id want the parents prosecuted or whoever bred him to be killer not the kid.

I do think as u start moving towards adolescence and beyond there is less excuses that can be made. I think even if ur raised in a "shit way" there are often times where u instinctively what if what ur gonna do is right or wrong but u sitll go ahead with the wrong option. Thats why i would not feel sympathy for them, especially if theres no possibility of rehabilitation.

One small tiny decision can shift peoples lives, free will is real.

U can still feel sympathy for them, even while proscuting them. Its not "oh im now an adult and i can delete years of programing because my brain is more devoloped now and i can somehow understand right from wrong" Its not so simple

 

[Incelforeever]

Yeah because killing is morally bad

Thats not how it works especially not in this conversation

 

[Heretic]

Thats not how it works especially not in this conversation

Explain

 

[FiendFiend]

U can still feel sympathy for them, even while proscuting them. Its not "oh im now an adult and i can delete years of programing because my brain is more devoloped now and i can somehow understand right from wrong" Its not so simple

no thats only when theyre so much of a threat or theres 0 chance of rehabilitation to the point where its pointless and its just a drain on recourses so they should be put down like an animal, thats when u can sentence someone to death penalty or something but still feel sympathy.

Other than that i dont see any instance where i could ever feel sympathy and still prosecute them. If I have sympathyy i most likely let them live and rehabiltate them and let the people who trained him to do that be prosecuted, thats where my anger would go towards.

 

[Deleted member 86840]

basically richard ramirez


obviously if it were MY family i wouldn’t let it slide purely due to a biased pov and anger due to something that was taken from me

but as outsider’s pov i can understand

 

[Incelforeever]

Explain

"Killing is bad" is an opinion, but even if we said its a universal law for the sake of this conversation, it doesnt hold because the person that killed was bred to kill so he never really had much of a choice on how he would turn out

 

[Incelforeever]

no thats only when theyre so much of a threat or theres 0 chance of rehabilitation to the point where its pointless and its just a drain on recourses so they should be put down like an animal, thats when u can sentence someone to death penalty or something but still feel sympathy.

Other than that i dont see any instance where i could ever feel sympathy and still prosecute them. If I have sympathyy i most likely let them live and rehabiltate them and let the people who trained him to do that be prosecuted, thats where my anger would go towards.

Lets add another complexity, the people that bred him to be a killer and kill ur family, were bred the same way

 

[Heretic]

"Killing is bad" is an opinion, but even if we said its a universal law for the sake of this conversation, it doesnt hold because the person that killed was bred to kill so he never really had much of a choice on how he would turn out

Their actions are reasonable because of their upbringing, but they are still bad people

 

[Incelforeever]

basically richard ramirez


obviously if it were MY family i wouldn’t let it slide purely due to a biased pov and anger due to something that was taken from me

but as outsider’s pov i can understand

exactly this world is just perspective biase wether u look from the inside or the outside

 

[Incelforeever]

but they are still bad people

What is a bad person?

 

[annenisikeyim]

would u hold them morally accountable for killing ur family?

repmaxxing 101 jk aside yeah i couldnt care less if someone was bred still it happened still my family dead i would give the death punishment myself

 

[Incelforeever]

repmaxxing 101 jk aside yeah i couldnt care less if someone was bred still it happened still my family dead i would give the death punishment myself

 

[Deleted member 86840]

exactly this world is just perspective biase wether u look from the inside or the outside

normies lack the ability to think deep and empathize

 

[Incelforeever]

normies lack the ability to think deep and empathize

They are all so black and white, they cannot step out of their own perspectice which honestly might be the key for a happy low cortisol life but not for deep conversations

 

[Deleted member 86840]

They are all so black and white, they cannot step out of their own perspectice which honestly might be the key for a happy low cortisol life but not for deep conversations

yup, that’s why talking to them is unbearable, they will very often debate a biased point and struggle completely to step a foot out their own perspective, and they swear they’re right

it’s just a narrow tunnel type of thinking

 

[PrettyboyQ]

would u hold them morally accountable for killing ur family?

No I wouldn’t

 

[Maxillular]

I'd kidnap them and make them my sex slave

 

[Anamnesis]

Probably not

 

[Incelforeever]

I'd kidnap them and make them my sex slave

 

[alurmo]

would u hold them morally accountable for killing ur family?

no bc unless he has access to goycial media it would 100% be up to his physiological demands

 

[Incelforeever]

no bc unless he has access to goycial media it would 100% be up to his physiological demands

And everybody has different physiological standarts

 

[alurmo]

And everybody has different physiological standarts

i wont indulge in stupid hypotethicals

 

[GonorrhoeaGobbler]

There are no morals or rules, you both have the right to hurt then take revenge