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Basically this is another of those, “Though you’re not chad, just do these things and you’ll get laid no time. “

I’ve been a lurker here for many months, I’ve read if not 1000s of threads, here I sum up what you should be doing to looksmax, and what will have the biggest change, not shit like eating carrots jfl. I think for some of you (me myself) we scroll and scroll and scroll trying to find something we never thought of, sometimes I used to scroll for hours because I was a afraid “I’d miss something that could ascend me”


Yes I know for some of you it totally is over over, and you know already, (being 5ft5 or below and terrible genes) so if you’re in this category then leave now. I’m not gonna lie to you, some things just can’t be helped. I’m not saying this will help everyone. We all wouldn’t be here in the first place if that was the case.

Yes we all know bad bone structure and shit genes are hard to overcome, but at least know what you should try before roping, you might’ve just got laid.

imma keep it concise.

2 things make a male attractive. Face and masculinity traits. We know this.

Things you can’t change.

Bone structure.
Genes for height.
Race.
Genes for aging.

Things you can change

1. Body fat.

Even if you have shit bones, its still better to be lean than to be fat, even 20%bf is too much, fat is a face KILLER. Get fit you fat fuck.

2. Skin.

I think many of you underestimate how much good skin matters. It literally will make or break a face. Use whatever you have to get rid of those dark eyes, scars and zits. Girls find it revolting.
Oh and try growing a beard, good for adding face symmetry and jaw size, if your under 21 and you have no beard yet, it’s just genes, it’ll come though.

3. Muscle.

Yes I know, you can’t get big arms on your face. But adding size to your frame is always a bonus. Not only is it for girls but socially too, you’ll be more intimidating and respected. I think we can all agree on this. No need to get too ripped or huge, unless you want to, but toned enough for a good hip to shoulder ratio, decent siz neck, abs, and jaw muscle (low bf needed for that).

Jaw muscle actually improves your jaw width to some extent and will be a soft max, chew hard sweets or gum. Having that slight dip gap between your masseters and cheek bone is a really good looksmax.

4. Hair

if you’re not balding yet, good for you, skip this. If you are, get a hair transplant asap. Balding will take off at least 2 points to your face. Nothing else to say here.

5. Surgery

I’ve read a lot of this, and tbh, surgery will not make a big difference to your face, I think some of you need to get a anatomy book and see the skull , it’s like trying to move a house without touching foundations.

Honestly, the only things you should do surgically/dentally, is; Fillers, Nose job (if your nose is big or has a hump), Jaw/chin implants (if you have the face for it but you’re lacking abit in the lower third) Correcting overbite/underbite, chin lipo.

Until the day where you can adjust your hyoids, change your skill size and just expand your jaw from inside out, anything else is just a waste of money.

and that’s it. That’s pretty much the only things that you should be focusing on. There are a few other softmaxes (I won’t list all of them but there’s no point doing those easy quick softmaxes and then getting pissed it’s not getting you laid.


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If you have dark eyes- get hidrocor “graphite“ eye contacts when clubbing etc unless you can explain to your work colleagues and friends why you suddenly have blue eyes. +0.5-1 added instantly.

Neck/arm tattoos. Gives a more rugged hardened look. +0.1-0.2

hairstyle. If you have a kinda small to medium head, get a shaved sides and hair on top style, it will balance your head proportion slightly.

If you wear glasses, get contacts. Glasses only look good on giga chads. Get real.

drink a lot of water. Some if you might not see this as a softmax but it really is. It will help regulate your body biochemistry, and also reduce that bloated face look. Trust me on this, drink a 2L bottle per day and within a week your skin will be more vibrant, tighter and you’ll feel great.

This one is abit odd, but still important, facial posture. Do lift your eyesbrows a lot? Keep your mouth open? Stop doing that shit, learn to maintain a slightly aggressive facial posture.


Just remember, I’m not saying these will get you results, everyone is different, but if you have done these things and still can’t get laid, it’s always been over for you.
At the end of the day, if your face isn’t at least average, obviously it’s going to be way way harder for you to get the same results as a 7 faced guy who is quite skinny fat , 6ft 3and has no muscle, who do you think will ascend the most after following the points in this post?



anyway, feel free to add anything you feel I missed out on, And I know there will be autists saying waaaa coper waaaa useless, show your face you subhuman and we’ll see who is the useless genetic piece of trash coper, why haven’t you roped yet?
 
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Bone structure.
Genes for height.
Race.
Genes for aging.
actually in 10 years you could change all of these, and some aspie scientists have been working on these things on this site for a while
 
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Unironically the best thread by a greycel I have seen in some time.
Upvoted.
 
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strong first post
 
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Good list tbh. This is usually everything thats needed.
If you do all of this and still get nothing, then you have bottom tier shit genetics.
But atleast you tried everything.

But Tatoos and Shaving Sides on your head can DESTROY your looks and should be very specific.
 
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Nothing new but ok
 
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Nothing new but ok
You realise how all you comment about is stuff like this? "Water is wet" "shit thread rope" "nothing new," etc etc, all while offering 0 content to the site yourself? Pretty much everything about looksmaxxing has been discussed already anyway.
 
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no shit Sherlock
 
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Everyone told me that i look good on glasses, am i a gigachad?
 
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Lefort III or death
 
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LMAO THIS THREAD IS A COPY AND PASTE OF @Kingkellz SEX APPEAL THREAD. NO SHIT WE ALL KNOW THIS YOU ARE STATING THE OBVIOUS
 
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this is some basic bluepill advice

everyone should know this by day 1
 
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2. Skin.

I think many of you underestimate how much good skin matters. It literally will make or break a face. Use whatever you have to get rid of those dark eyes, scars and zits. Girls find it revolting.
Oh and try growing a beard, good for adding face symmetry and jaw size, if your under 21 and you have no beard yet, it’s just genes, it’ll come though.

It never started.
 
I stopped reading there.
1589808296936


Actually I read this (and I regret it):
Until the day where you can adjust your hyoids, change your skill size and just expand your jaw from inside out, anything else is just a waste of money.

You're an absolute Subsaharan negroid tier level of retard. You can adjust your hyoid with the hyo-neck lift surgery, you can expand you jaw with bimax. And yet here you are "teaching" others.

FUCK OFF YOU FAGGOT!
 
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Why does this have so many reacts, isn't this shit already obvious
 
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LMAO THIS THREAD IS A COPY AND PASTE OF @Kingkellz SEX APPEAL THREAD. NO SHIT WE ALL KNOW THIS YOU ARE STATING THE OBVIOUS
Yeah kinda true tbh
My thread is a completely different perspective and it's not even as detailed as my thread. It doesn't even contain all the info/points my thread had.

OP @Lightskincel


Things you can’t change.

Bone structure.
Genes for height.
Race.
Genes for aging.
Bone structure can be augmented via osteotomies, implants, and fillers.
Haven't you heard of clavicle lengthening?
BSSO? Bimax/double jaw surgery? Genioplasty? Leforts, etc? Infraorbital, malar, submalar, and paranasal implants? Browridge implants/fillers? Skull widening implants etc etc?

More than just bone structure alone surgeries like Canthoplasty/canthopexy, otoplasty, fat removals etc. can also help enhance the face overall.

As for Height
Limb lengthening, lifts/elevator shoes, etc exist.

Until the day where you can adjust your hyoids, change your skill size and just expand your jaw from inside out, anything else is just a waste of money.
As @Slayerino said
Actually I read this (and I regret it):
You're an absolute Subsaharan negroid tier level of retard. You can adjust your hyoid with the hyo-neck lift surgery, you can expand you jaw with bimax. And yet here you are "teaching" others.

FUCK OFF YOU FAGGOT!

Neck/arm tattoos. Gives a more rugged hardened look. +0.1-0.2
There's a lot more you can do than just tats, hairstyle, contacts, and drinking water.
 
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Good list tbh. This is usually everything thats needed.
If you do all of this and still get nothing, then you have bottom tier shit genetics.
But atleast you tried everything.

But Tatoos and Shaving Sides on your head can DESTROY your looks and should be very specific.

true I agree , it just depends on the skull and your frame
Yeah kinda true tbh
My thread is a completely different perspective and it's not even as detailed as my thread. It doesn't even contain all the info/points my thread had.

OP @Lightskincel



Bone structure can be augmented via osteotomies, implants, and fillers.
Haven't you heard of clavicle lengthening?
BSSO? Bimax/double jaw surgery? Genioplasty? Leforts, etc? Infraorbital, malar, submalar, and paranasal implants? Browridge implants/fillers? Skull widening implants etc etc?

More than just bone structure alone surgeries like Canthoplasty/canthopexy, otoplasty, fat removals etc. can also help enhance the face overall.

As for Height
Limb lengthening, lifts/elevator shoes, etc exist.


As @Slayerino said



There's a lot more you can do than just tats, hairstyle, contacts, and drinking water.
I have heard of those, I’ve seen pics of before and after and it really doesn’t make a big difference unless you have a deformed face
Why does this have so many reacts, isn't this shit already obvious
It is but I just wanted to post something for the first time, sorry for wasting your time
I stopped reading there.
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Actually I read this (and I regret it):


You're an absolute Subsaharan negroid tier level of retard. You can adjust your hyoid with the hyo-neck lift surgery, you can expand you jaw with bimax. And yet here you are "teaching" others.

FUCK OFF YOU FAGGOT!
Show me before and afters and let’s see the ascension
LMAO THIS THREAD IS A COPY AND PASTE OF @Kingkellz SEX APPEAL THREAD. NO SHIT WE ALL KNOW THIS YOU ARE STATING THE OBVIOUS
Stating the obvious yet you are here
Everyone told me that i look good on glasses, am i a gigachad?
Nah they probably just feel bad for you
strong first post
Thanks, I know most of it is already on the site but I just wanted to filter the useless info
Unironically the best thread by a greycel I have seen in some time.
Upvoted.
Appreciate it
 
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Wtf did I just read
 
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HERE, DON'T QUOTE ME ANYMORE YOU ABSOLUTE RETARD!
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Dont know why youre acting like an autist, but I already said unless you already have a deformed face, its pointless, now he has a chin, well done, ascended 100%
Wtf did I just read
Your liberation.
Until the day where you can adjust your hyoids, change your skill size and just expand your jaw from inside out, anything else is just a waste of money.

Ehhh I meant Zygos not hyoid
 
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I have heard of those, I’ve seen pics of before and after and it really doesn’t make a big difference unless you have a deformed face
Then why did you say

Things you can’t change.

Bone structure.
Genes for height.
Race.
Genes for aging.
Obviously it can be changed.


Honestly, the only things you should do surgically/dentally, is; Fillers, Nose job (if your nose is big or has a hump), Jaw/chin implants (if you have the face for it but you’re lacking abit in the lower third) Correcting overbite/underbite, chin lipo.
What about surgeries like canthoplasty? Otoplasty? Fat removal?
Are they useless surgeries? Are they no good?
 
Then why did you say


Obviously it can be changed.



What about surgeries like canthoplasty? Otoplasty? Fat removal?
Are they useless surgeries? Are they no good?

Most definitely if absolutely necessary, what Im trying to say is, most of these worshipped surgeries arent designed for aesthetics, and you already need a good base to start on. Though, Im not sure whether Implants or surgery is better since you cant hide recession. And I mean, who really is gonna fork out 50k for 20mm or so of forward bone. Thats a whole other debate.
 
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Very fucking good thread OP. I needed this motivation to keep me going
 
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Mirin effort OP. I love posts that are honest about what can be done, and focus on the unified strengths of each small step. I would like if you included more pictures as well, which are great for motivation!
 
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I’ve read a lot of this, and tbh, surgery will not make a big difference to your face
dropped right there

another greycel, another shitty thread
 
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dropped right there

another greycel, another shitty thread

Maybe I should've expanded on my point, because some facial procedure surgeries are so expensive, its not really a viable option for the average person, depending on what they want done, ears, eye area, jaw, and nose etc. Now as I said, even if you get a lefort 3 or bimax, if you have shit eyes, shit cheeks and shit proportions in general, what really is the point, though anything looksmaxxing is good, the benefits dont outweigh negatives, unless you got 50k sitting around go ahead. If you have a good face but only lacking in lower third etc, by all means go ahead, thats what I meant to say. Perhaps I shouldve left the surgery part out, It seems like this topic hits a real soft spot with some people, probably as they think "its their last hope" and get triggered when people say its pointless. If you want to get it done, go ahead noone is stopping you. What do I know anyway.
Mirin effort OP. I love posts that are honest about what can be done, and focus on the unified strengths of each small step. I would like if you included more pictures as well, which are great for motivation!

hey we're all in this together man, appreciate it, Yeah I shouldve added pics, I'll keep it in mind for future posts

I lowkey feel bad for saying that now, sorry my dude
 
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Maybe I should've expanded on my point, because some facial procedure surgeries are so expensive, its not really a viable option for the average person, depending on what they want done, ears, eye area, jaw, and nose etc. Now as I said, even if you get a lefort 3 or bimax, if you have shit eyes, shit cheeks and shit proportions in general, what really is the point, though anything looksmaxxing is good, the benefits dont outweigh negatives, unless you got 50k sitting around go ahead. If you have a good face but only lacking in lower third etc, by all means go ahead, thats what I meant to say. Perhaps I shouldve left the surgery part out, It seems like this topic hits a real soft spot with some people, probably as they think "its their last hope" and get triggered when people say its pointless. If you want to get it done, go ahead noone is stopping you. What do I know anyway.
It's not a "soft spot" it's literally the point of this forum and its predecessors :lul:
All you mean to say is that if you're deformed, you'll never ascend even with surgery, we know that, there's plenty of examples of guys who'll never attract prime women even with bimax
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You can't really claim things like this and expect no response when the guy above was an user here for example
 
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It's not a "soft spot" it's literally the point of this forum and its predecessors :lul:
All you mean to say is that if you're deformed, you'll never ascend even with surgery, we know that, there's plenty of examples of guys who'll never attract prime women even with bimax
ayiU0kg_d.jpg
1573502136303-jpeg.161955

You can't really claim things like this and expect no response when the guy above was an user here for example

True I totally agree, wouldve edited it out if I could. It just depends on the individual. There way more other factors to take into account, I'm no doctor so I'll just leave it here, and that dude ascended pretty well.
 
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It's not a "soft spot" it's literally the point of this forum and its predecessors :lul:
All you mean to say is that if you're deformed, you'll never ascend even with surgery, we know that, there's plenty of examples of guys who'll never attract prime women even with bimax
ayiU0kg_d.jpg
1573502136303-jpeg.161955

You can't really claim things like this and expect no response when the guy above was an user here for example
Didnt this guy got his surgieres at 29 or so? I guess he was close to the rope but ended up taking a last attempt and it worked for him.
I mean what he achieved is great, but the average user would probably give up way earlier.
At 29 the agepill would have descended most people by default anyway.

Dont forget the costs, the recovery time, he probably even needed to switch workplaces and stuff, leave everyone he knows behind etc...

Im not trying to be a defeatist cuck but theres probably 10 other people who went for the same amount of surgieres and ended up botched/deformed.

I always lol when people ask what surgeries they need when they never have been sub-10% bf in their life...
 
Didnt this guy got his surgieres at 29 or so? I guess he was close to the rope but ended up taking a last attempt and it worked for him.
I mean what he achieved is great, but the average user would probably give up way earlier.
At 29 the agepill would have descended most people by default anyway.

Dont forget the costs, the recovery time, he probably even needed to switch workplaces and stuff, leave everyone he knows behind etc...

Im not trying to be a defeatist cuck but theres probably 10 other people who went for the same amount of surgieres and ended up botched/deformed.

I always lol when people ask what surgeries they need when they never have been sub-10% bf in their life...
What's your point? I've already stated that some get botched other ascend, it depends on a lot of factors
Jaw surgery is NOT about aesthetics only, it's diagnosable through an exam called cephalometry, recessed jaws cause sleep apnea, TMJ, fucked bites etc you don't need to be low bf to know it because the fucking doctor can see it
You guys should seriously do some research before posting
 
This one is abit odd, but still important, facial posture. Do lift your eyesbrows a lot? Keep your mouth open? Stop doing that shit, learn to maintain a slightly aggressive facial posture.
i always get told i look angry/to smile more

i guess this is a good thing now?
 
What's your point? I've already stated that some get botched other ascend, it depends on a lot of factors
Jaw surgery is NOT about aesthetics only, it's diagnosable through an exam called cephalometry, recessed jaws cause sleep apnea, TMJ, fucked bites etc you don't need to be low bf to know it because the fucking doctor can see it
You guys should seriously do some research before posting
Lmao
i always get told i look angry/to smile more

i guess this is a good thing now?

Ah I should’ve included this, don’t take it as law, I’m not saying to walk around with a pissed off face, I just meant keep your eyes a little squinted and your mouth closed and also mewing so it lifts the muscle under your jaw(NOTE* NOT TO CHANGE YOUR BONES, YOU SHOULDLVE DONE THIS FROM AGE 5 ONWARDS) Also push head back whilst looking straight for good head posture.

Not all this would make a difference to your existing facial attractiveness anyway, it just makes you have good facial and head posture,
 
Basically this is another of those, “Though you’re not chad, just do these things and you’ll get laid no time. “

I’ve been a lurker here for many months, I’ve read if not 1000s of threads, here I sum up what you should be doing to looksmax, and what will have the biggest change, not shit like eating carrots jfl. I think for some of you (me myself) we scroll and scroll and scroll trying to find something we never thought of, sometimes I used to scroll for hours because I was a afraid “I’d miss something that could ascend me”


Yes I know for some of you it totally is over over, and you know already, (being 5ft5 or below and terrible genes) so if you’re in this category then leave now. I’m not gonna lie to you, some things just can’t be helped. I’m not saying this will help everyone. We all wouldn’t be here in the first place if that was the case.

Yes we all know bad bone structure and shit genes are hard to overcome, but at least know what you should try before roping, you might’ve just got laid.

imma keep it concise.

2 things make a male attractive. Face and masculinity traits. We know this.

Things you can’t change.

Bone structure.
Genes for height.
Race.
Genes for aging.

Things you can change

1. Body fat.

Even if you have shit bones, its still better to be lean than to be fat, even 20%bf is too much, fat is a face KILLER. Get fit you fat fuck.

2. Skin.

I think many of you underestimate how much good skin matters. It literally will make or break a face. Use whatever you have to get rid of those dark eyes, scars and zits. Girls find it revolting.
Oh and try growing a beard, good for adding face symmetry and jaw size, if your under 21 and you have no beard yet, it’s just genes, it’ll come though.

3. Muscle.

Yes I know, you can’t get big arms on your face. But adding size to your frame is always a bonus. Not only is it for girls but socially too, you’ll be more intimidating and respected. I think we can all agree on this. No need to get too ripped or huge, unless you want to, but toned enough for a good hip to shoulder ratio, decent siz neck, abs, and jaw muscle (low bf needed for that).

Jaw muscle actually improves your jaw width to some extent and will be a soft max, chew hard sweets or gum. Having that slight dip gap between your masseters and cheek bone is a really good looksmax.

4. Hair

if you’re not balding yet, good for you, skip this. If you are, get a hair transplant asap. Balding will take off at least 2 points to your face. Nothing else to say here.

5. Surgery

I’ve read a lot of this, and tbh, surgery will not make a big difference to your face, I think some of you need to get a anatomy book and see the skull , it’s like trying to move a house without touching foundations.

Honestly, the only things you should do surgically/dentally, is; Fillers, Nose job (if your nose is big or has a hump), Jaw/chin implants (if you have the face for it but you’re lacking abit in the lower third) Correcting overbite/underbite, chin lipo.

Until the day where you can adjust your hyoids, change your skill size and just expand your jaw from inside out, anything else is just a waste of money.

and that’s it. That’s pretty much the only things that you should be focusing on. There are a few other softmaxes (I won’t list all of them but there’s no point doing those easy quick softmaxes and then getting pissed it’s not getting you laid.


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If you have dark eyes- get hidrocor “graphite“ eye contacts when clubbing etc unless you can explain to your work colleagues and friends why you suddenly have blue eyes. +0.5-1 added instantly.

Neck/arm tattoos. Gives a more rugged hardened look. +0.1-0.2

hairstyle. If you have a kinda small to medium head, get a shaved sides and hair on top style, it will balance your head proportion slightly.

If you wear glasses, get contacts. Glasses only look good on giga chads. Get real.

drink a lot of water. Some if you might not see this as a softmax but it really is. It will help regulate your body biochemistry, and also reduce that bloated face look. Trust me on this, drink a 2L bottle per day and within a week your skin will be more vibrant, tighter and you’ll feel great.

This one is abit odd, but still important, facial posture. Do lift your eyesbrows a lot? Keep your mouth open? Stop doing that shit, learn to maintain a slightly aggressive facial posture.


Just remember, I’m not saying these will get you results, everyone is different, but if you have done these things and still can’t get laid, it’s always been over for you.
At the end of the day, if your face isn’t at least average, obviously it’s going to be way way harder for you to get the same results as a 7 faced guy who is quite skinny fat , 6ft 3and has no muscle, who do you think will ascend the most after following the points in this post?



anyway, feel free to add anything you feel I missed out on, And I know there will be autists saying waaaa coper waaaa useless, show your face you subhuman and we’ll see who is the useless genetic piece of trash coper, why haven’t you roped yet?


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