If you wanna be a mafia/cartel/crime boss you NEED to be SHORT

[ivantheterrible]

If you're >175cm, it's over for you if you have crime boss aspirations. Not that the 175-180 range isn't short as well but you're no longer the manlet you need to be to build and run a criminal enterprise. You need that manlet rage, it has to be the driving force behind your actions if you wanna succeed. That's why a lot of ugly/short men make it, they're angry and they wanna conquer and enslave the world. The Chad or the BBC, they never make it far. Chillfags never make it. You have to be an animal and years of humiliation due to things you can't control (face, height, dick etc) will do that for you. You have to be insane in order to get to the very top. But not insane to the point you go ER, in the words of Jordan Peterson: ''You should be a monster, an absolute monster, and then you should learn how to control it''.

Just some great examples at the top of my head.

El Chapo. Literally translates to the humiliating 'Shorty'. 1.68m
Pablo Escobar? 1.65m
Salvatore Riina, biggest Cosa Nastro capo, also known as ''Toto u curtu = Toto the Short''... and ''La Belva = The Beast''. 1.65m
El Mencho, the current biggest cartel boss in Mexico and the most wanted man in Mexico. 1.73m
Al Capone, can't find his exact height but if you've seen pics of him you'll know. Wouldn't put him a cm above 1.60m
Dawood Ibrahim, the pajeet boss (JFL). 1.63m

 

[R@m@]

Yeah it suits the character

 

[Panzram]

If you're >175cm, it's over for you if you have crime boss aspirations. Not that the 175-180 range isn't short as well but you're no longer the manlet you need to be to build and run a criminal enterprise. You need that manlet rage, it has to be the driving force behind your actions if you wanna succeed. That's why a lot of ugly/short men make it, they're angry and they wanna conquer and enslave the world. The Chad or the BBC, they never make it far. Chillfags never make it. You have to be an animal and years of humiliation due to things you can't control (face, height, dick etc) will do that for you. You have to be insane in order to get to the very top. But not insane to the point you go ER, in the words of Jordan Peterson: ''You should be a monster, an absolute monster, and then you should learn how to control it''.

Just some great examples at the top of my head.

El Chapo. Literally translates to the humiliating 'Shorty'. 1.68m
Pablo Escobar? 1.65m
Salvatore Riina, biggest Cosa Nastro capo, also known as ''Toto u curtu = Toto the Short''... and ''La Belva = The Beast''. 1.65m
El Mencho, the current biggest cartel boss in Mexico and the most wanted man in Mexico. 1.73m
Al Capone, can't find his exact height but if you've seen pics of him you'll know. Wouldn't put him a cm above 1.60m
Dawood Ibrahim, the pajeet boss (JFL). 1.63m

Al Capone was 5'10 and well built. Mexicans are short as shit. This is cope.

 

[R@m@]

 

[ivantheterrible]

Al Capone was 5'10 and well built. Mexicans are short as shit. This is cope.

Al Capone was 5'10 and well built. Mexicans are short as shit. This is cope.

Yep, Al Capone was definitely 5'10 and most definitely well built.

 

[Gonthar]

El Chapo. Literally translates to the humiliating 'Shorty'. 1.68m
Pablo Escobar? 1.65m
Salvatore Riina, biggest Cosa Nastro capo, also known as ''Toto u curtu = Toto the Short''... and ''La Belva = The Beast''. 1.65m
El Mencho, the current biggest cartel boss in Mexico and the most wanted man in Mexico. 1.73m
Al Capone, can't find his exact height but if you've seen pics of him you'll know. Wouldn't put him a cm above 1.60m
Dawood Ibrahim, the pajeet boss (JFL). 1.63m

They all lived in poor countries or in a time when height wasn't that relevant to a man's success, good luck trying now to become a crime boss being short in a western country - you won't get any followers, no one will take you seriously.

 

[ivantheterrible]

They all lived in poor countries or in a time when height wasn't that relevant to a man's success, good luck trying now to become a crime boss being short in a western country - you won't get any followers, no one will take you seriously.

Definition of cope and a fried incel brain. Thankfully, running brutal criminal organizations doesn't require the approval of women so height will never be an issue.

 

[Gonthar]

Definition of cope and a fried incel brain. Thankfully, running brutal criminal organizations doesn't require the approval of women so height will never be an issue.

You still need other guys to respect you, silly!
Pretty hard for this to happen, when you're short...

 

[Lefty Rankin]

If you're >175cm, it's over for you if you have crime boss aspirations. Not that the 175-180 range isn't short as well but you're no longer the manlet you need to be to build and run a criminal enterprise. You need that manlet rage, it has to be the driving force behind your actions if you wanna succeed. That's why a lot of ugly/short men make it, they're angry and they wanna conquer and enslave the world. The Chad or the BBC, they never make it far. Chillfags never make it. You have to be an animal and years of humiliation due to things you can't control (face, height, dick etc) will do that for you. You have to be insane in order to get to the very top. But not insane to the point you go ER, in the words of Jordan Peterson: ''You should be a monster, an absolute monster, and then you should learn how to control it''.

Just some great examples at the top of my head.

El Chapo. Literally translates to the humiliating 'Shorty'. 1.68m
Pablo Escobar? 1.65m
Salvatore Riina, biggest Cosa Nastro capo, also known as ''Toto u curtu = Toto the Short''... and ''La Belva = The Beast''. 1.65m
El Mencho, the current biggest cartel boss in Mexico and the most wanted man in Mexico. 1.73m
Al Capone, can't find his exact height but if you've seen pics of him you'll know. Wouldn't put him a cm above 1.60m
Dawood Ibrahim, the pajeet boss (JFL). 1.63m

This is stupid. So so stupid.

 

[Panzram]

Yep, Al Capone was definitely 5'10 and most definitely well built.

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5'8 or 5'10 whatever for his time he was not short. He does not stand out in pictures as short when among people.
And he looks like he is 200 lbs here wich was big at the time. He has some muscle too. The point being he was not a small weakling who became a mob boss.

 

[ivantheterrible]

You still need other guys to respect you, silly!
Pretty hard for this to happen, when you're short...

This isn't a street fight in Russia, silly! That's where you need the imposing size. How did all these people I mentioned command respect then? El Mencho is still active and he's 5'8, do you think his 30000 cartel members think he's a cuck because he's not 6'4?

 

[ivantheterrible]

5'8 or 5'10 whatever for his time he was not short. He does not stand out in pictures as short when among people.
And he looks like he is 200 lbs here wich was big at the time. He has some muscle too. The point being he was not a small weakling who became a mob boss.

I tried to look up his height and there's nothing on there. You can clearly see he's a fat manlet. There's no debate.

 

[ivantheterrible]

This is stupid. So so stupid.

Yet you can't provide any arguments, you're just passing by to amuse us with your feminine logic and feminine IQ. Provide counterarguments or go watch Barbie and stroke your manclit.

 

[Gonthar]

This isn't a street fight in Russia, silly! That's where you need the imposing size. How did all these people I mentioned command respect then? El Mencho is still active and he's 5'8, do you think his 30000 cartel members think he's a cuck because he's not 6'4?

He won't be a mob boss in US or western Europe, but only in shithole countries where height is mostly irrelevant.

 

[valentine]

I've been saying this but mfs won't listen. this doesn't only apply to mafia too

 

[ivantheterrible]

He won't be a mob boss in US or western Europe, but only in shithole countries where height is mostly irrelevant.

Aha, okay, got it, you're twisting the facts to your liking. If I begin naming manlets operating in the West, it's gonna be ''oh but they're old and back when they were on the rise it didn't matter that much haha!!!''

Bitch.

 

[Panzram]

I tried to look up his height and there's nothing on there. You can clearly see he's a fat manlet. There's no debate.

He was not manlet back in the day. If you wanna quote me ruthless high ranking mobster manlets why did you forget Sammy The Bull Gravano? He is an actual 5'5 manlet that rose to the very top of crime life. John Gotti who was boss was not manlet tho. Also here in Serbia all the mobsters are big and strong.

 

[Gonthar]

Aha, okay, got it, you're twisting the facts to your liking. If I begin naming manlets operating in the West, it's gonna be ''oh but they're old and back when they were on the rise it didn't matter that much haha!!!''

Bitch.

Ok, then...become mob boss if you think it's that easy!

 

[ivantheterrible]

He was not manlet back in the day. If you wanna quote me ruthless high ranking mobster manlets why did you forget Sammy The Bull Gravano? He is an actual 5'5 manlet that rose to the very top of crime life. John Gotti who was boss was not manlet tho. Also here in Serbia all the mobsters are big and strong.

Your logic is flawed because you live in Serbistan where it's 'the rule of the strong'. I'm sure you're imagining El Serbio when you're trying to debate. How about Arkan my friend? He was definitely a giant... Sretan Josic as well.

 

[ivantheterrible]

Ok, then...become mob boss if you think it's that easy!

It's easy but I don't wanna do it because I don't wanna end up in jail where all the BBCs are.

 

[Gonthar]

It's easy but I don't wanna do it because I don't wanna end up in jail where all the BBCs are.

So much for your theory....

 

[Raja Porus]

Yep, Al Capone was definitely 5'10 and most definitely well built.

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He was actually 6 ft & a boxer

 

[ivantheterrible]

So much for your theory....

What's wrong with the theory? The majority of the most ruthless and worst crime bosses are either manlets or simply short. Perhaps, the worst of them, Z-40 was 1.73m as well. John Gotti, quoted above, being 1.78m (terrible height as well) is the exception or is it the rule?

 

[Panzram]

Your logic is flawed because you live in Serbistan where it's 'the rule of the strong'. I'm sure you're imagining El Serbio when you're trying to debate. How about Arkan my friend? He was definitely a giant... Sretan Josic as well.

Arkan was average height. Joca idk he seems short. Your point was that being a manlet in a high T high competitive enviorment like the mob is somehow necessary. That is insane. At best (and i wont admit even that) it is no impediment. Sure manlets have done it but calling it even an advantage is crazy let alone a requirment.

 

[ivantheterrible]

He was actually 6 ft & a boxer

Nah, he was actually 6ft when he was 7, he was actually 6'8 as an adult. Stop the malarkey. The mogger on your pfp was super tall though.

 

[BWCFORBLACKMOMS]

you can just go to a cuckold forum, find a negroid, and then when he comes to you, hoping for the status of a bull, you just kill him by sticking a knife in his throat. as soon as you kill the monkey, your complexes will disappear, but only until you go to a porn site, seeing the BBC again. It's an eternal circle.

 

[ivantheterrible]

Arkan was average height. Joca idk he seems short. Your point was that being a manlet in a high T high competitive enviorment like the mob is somehow necessary. That is insane. At best (and i wont admit even that) it is no impediment. Sure manlets have done it but calling it even an advantage is crazy let alone a requirment.

Arkan was 100% not average height in Serbia lol. He wasn't a midget but he was short and fat. I'd put him at about 1.75m which is 8-9cm below the Serbian average. So what does being below the average mean? It means you're short. Josic is slightly shorter. These were the two main people from Serbistan who came to mind, I don't even have to google it to prove my point. Kristijan Golubovic was the third but he was never a boss.

First off, it's obvious my post isn't 100% serious but there's a lot of truth in it. If you're not a manlet or a dicklet, you won't know what I'm talking about. These are by far the biggest fuels for success in men. I'm talking about burning desire to prove yourself and prove that you're worthy. I'm talking about anger aimed at the world. And it's another fact that the majority of the mafia bosses/biggest criminal elements have been manlets. Don't quote me local Balkan examples because it's just an irrelevant region in the grand scheme of things. Serbian, Bulgarian, Croatian bosses, they're nobody in the large picture. And despite all that, without digging into it, I'm sure the majority of them are/were short. You're thinking being tall is a necessity in crime because you're imagining all the wannabe mangups and wannabe diselasi, most of them are tall and tough, but they're just street pawns who never make it out the hood level.

 

[ivantheterrible]

Apart from all the examples I quoted above, I'd say 90-something percent of the Italian-American mafia in the US consisted of manlets. Lucky Luciano, Frank Costello, Joe Colombo, Gambino, Vito Genovese, the jew Meyer Lansky. Manlets. Now because we're talking about the West, @Gonthar is probably gonna tell us that's either a coincidence or it's because it didn't happen in 2025. The only difference between 2025 and the 20th century is women weren't that informed that they need a tall man. 2025, 1950, 1830, 1216. The bigger man was always feared more than the manlet.

 

[Panzram]

Arkan was 100% not average height in Serbia lol. He wasn't a midget but he was short and fat. I'd put him at about 1.75m which is 8-9cm below the Serbian average. So what does being below the average mean? It means you're short. Josic is slightly shorter. These were the two main people from Serbistan who came to mind, I don't even have to google it to prove my point. Kristijan Golubovic was the third but he was never a boss.

First off, it's obvious my post isn't 100% serious but there's a lot of truth in it. If you're not a manlet or a dicklet, you won't know what I'm talking about. These are by far the biggest fuels for success in men. I'm talking about burning desire to prove yourself and prove that you're worthy. I'm talking about anger aimed at the world. And it's another fact that the majority of the mafia bosses/biggest criminal elements have been manlets. Don't quote me local Balkan examples because it's just an irrelevant region in the grand scheme of things. Serbian, Bulgarian, Croatian bosses, they're nobody in the large picture. And despite all that, without digging into it, I'm sure the majority of them are/were short. You're thinking being tall is a necessity in crime because you're imagining all the wannabe mangups and wannabe diselasi, most of them are tall and tough, but they're just street pawns who never make it out the hood level.

Arkan was around 6 ft tall. Look at him next to his wife Ceca. She is about 170 to 173 cm tall.

I am a manlet myself being only 177 cm evening height in Serbia and while it has brought me rage I am yet to see a benefit to it. I will give you that, most mob bosses are indeed physicaly unimpressive men. Velja Nevolja the latest one was a big boy tho.

 

[Lefty Rankin]

Yet you can't provide any arguments, you're just passing by to amuse us with your feminine logic and feminine IQ. Provide counterarguments or go watch Barbie and stroke your manclit.

Ivan Grozny was 5' 10", which was pretty tall for Russians of that time. Shit, I believe it's taller than the average Russian today. And though he wasn't a mob boss he certainly wielded power like one. His first act to seize power as a teenager was having his biggest rival, a boyar, fed alive to a group of starved dogs.

 

[Gonthar]

Apart from all the examples I quoted above, I'd say 90-something percent of the Italian-American mafia in the US consisted of manlets. Lucky Luciano, Frank Costello, Joe Colombo, Gambino, Vito Genovese, the jew Meyer Lansky. Manlets. Now because we're talking about the West, @Gonthar is probably gonna tell us that's either a coincidence or it's because it didn't happen in 2025. The only difference between 2025 and the 20th century is women weren't that informed that they need a tall man. 2025, 1950, 1830, 1216. The bigger man was always feared more than the manlet.

Those were in the old days, man!
In today's world they will be bullied and made fun off in school, and eventually become incels, no mob ascension for them!

 

[ivantheterrible]

Arkan was around 6 ft tall. Look at him next to his wife Ceca. She is about 170 to 173 cm tall.

I am a manlet myself being only 177 cm evening height in Serbia and while it has brought me rage I am yet to see a benefit to it. I will give you that, most mob bosses are indeed physicaly unimpressive men. Velja Nevolja the latest one was a big boy tho.

There's no way Arkan was 6ft tall. Not a chance. Velja Nevolja was nobody lol, he had a street gang who did dirty favours to Vucic. Didn't you see I'm discussing the creme de la creme, not some average thugs? Have you seen the way Velja dressed in his few public pictures? Do you look at him and say to yourself ''damn, I'm sure he's worth billions, I'm sure he's literally ordering who gets to become minister of what, I'm sure he's moving tons of blow every month''? And while we're on the topic, he was very broken for different reasons though. I think he was an orphan or his father killed his mother when he was a child, it was something like that.

 

[Panzram]

There's no way Arkan was 6ft tall. Not a chance. Velja Nevolja was nobody lol, he had a street gang who did dirty favours to Vucic. Didn't you see I'm discussing the creme de la creme, not some average thugs? Have you seen the way Velja dressed in his few public pictures? Do you look at him and say to yourself ''damn, I'm sure he's worth billions, I'm sure he's literally ordering who gets to become minister of what, I'm sure he's moving tons of blow every month''? And while we're on the topic, he was very broken for different reasons though. I think he was an orphan or his father killed his mother when he was a child, it was something like that.

Why do you know so much about Serbian underground lol. Where are you from? Must be a Balkancell. Velja was a nobody in this context tho you are right.

 

[ivantheterrible]

Why do you know so much about Serbian underground lol. Where are you from? Must be a Balkancell. Velja was a nobody in this context tho you are right.

 

[goober55]

ITT: heightfags malding

 

[standardcel]

You need to selensky maxx and fight Russia

 

[Panzram]

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Based and donbizapilled.

 

[ivantheterrible]

ITT: heightfags malding

Heightfags and the strongcels are low in the crime hierarchy. They do the dirty work while the manlet smartcels call all the shots.

 

[goober55]

Heightfags and the strongcels are low in the crime hierarchy. They do the dirty work while the manlet smartcels call all the shots.

everyone in this thread knows that there's no real reason for people above 6' to pursue a life of crime. You can get everything, money, bitches, love, respect etc. just by being tall. The very reason for why organized crime leaders emerge is the blackpill, they know its the only way to get what they deserve.

 

[Fusionxz]

nigga u should be more worried of feds if u have such dreams they destroyed the mobsters and raped all the gangs and even the cartel cant do shit to them

 

[ivantheterrible]

nigga u should be more worried of feds if u have such dreams they destroyed the mobsters and raped all the gangs and even the cartel cant do shit to them

Are you a fed

 

[ivantheterrible]

Hmmm...