If your natty please get on test

[b12345]

I started 200 mg of test 1.5 weeks ago bumbing it to 250-300 at 4 weeks

It hasn’t even fully saturated at one week and I have notice significant results so far
I feel insane very confident and angry in the gym energy at work is good and I’ve gained 10 pounds (prolly alot of water) lean

 

[moggin]

i don't wanna be injecting test for the rest of my life thank you very much, also test won't fix my sub 70% harmony

 

[b12345]

i don't wanna be injecting test for the rest of my life thank you very much, also test won't fix my sub 70% harmony

Understandable I def will be pinning test for the rest of my life
Confidence up
Energy sky rocketed
I have like killer instants will the gym and my job I’m so motivated to go hard and attack the day it’s going to make life easy

 

[leorules004]

I started 200 mg of test 1.5 weeks ago bumbing it to 250-300 at 4 weeks

It hasn’t even fully saturated at one week and I have notice significant results so far
I feel insane very confident and angry in the gym energy at work is good and I’ve gained 10 pounds (prolly alot of water) lean

Or just raise it naturally. Stop being an artificial man be a real one jfl.

 

[b12345]

Or just raise it naturally. Stop being an artificial man be a real one jfl.

Not everyone is heathy and naturally able to do that

My test was healthy I took accuatne and my Lh and fsh (pituitary hormones) were tanked below reference range so without drugs I was fucked anyway

I used Enclomafine for a year which worked but I still didn’t feel great

 

[b12345]

Not everyone is heathy and naturally able to do that

My test was healthy I took accuatne and my Lh and fsh (pituitary hormones) were tanked below reference range so without drugs I was fucked anyway

I used Enclomafine for a year which worked but I still didn’t feel great

That argument is so dumb to “raise it naturally” not everyone is the same some people born with problems and naturally low test

 

[leorules004]

Not everyone is heathy and naturally able to do that

My test was healthy I took accuatne and my Lh and fsh (pituitary hormones) were tanked below reference range so without drugs I was fucked anyway

I used Enclomafine for a year which worked but I still didn’t feel great

Stop taking accutane then? You’re fixing one problem (acne) causing another (low test) fixing that problem with roids and causing another (possible infertility and chronically low test for the rest of your life). All this jusy for acne that may jusy go away in 2 years.

I understand your in a tricky scenario but acne is a natural process and your endocrine system isn’t meant to be modified to remove it.

 

[b12345]

Stop taking accutane then? You’re fixing one problem (acne) causing another (low test) fixing that problem with roids and causing another (possible infertility and chronically low test for the rest of your life). All this jusy for acne that may jusy go away in 2 years.

I understand you’re in a tricky scenario but acne is a natural process and your endocrine system isn’t meant to be modified to remove it.

I hopped off accuatne felt awful still and I had to use accutane it wasn’t like it was gonna go away it was horrible cystic acne

 

[AryanSchizo]

what are ur test levels on roids and how is your hairline

 

[chadisbeingmade]

prolly

You definitely gained 10lbs of water and not a singular ounce of muscle.

 

[PsychoDsk]

Placebo is crazy on this one

 

[b12345]

You gained 10lbs of water.

I said this buddy in another thread

 

[Copercel]

I started 200 mg of test 1.5 weeks ago bumbing it to 250-300 at 4 weeks

It hasn’t even fully saturated at one week and I have notice significant results so far
I feel insane very confident and angry in the gym energy at work is good and I’ve gained 10 pounds (prolly alot of water) lean

Good question bro

 

[b12345]

what are ur test levels on roids and how is your hairline

I just started so I haven’t gotten bloods on Roids ywt it was 299 natty but pre Roids it was 954

 

[AryanSchizo]

I just started so I haven’t gotten bloods on Roids ywt it was 299 natty but pre Roids it was 954

954 ngdl natty?

 

[b12345]

954 ngdl natty?

On enlco
That was what it tested for right before test

 

[Kelly Oubre Jr]

i don't wanna be injecting test for the rest of my life thank you very much, also test won't fix my sub 70% harmony

1. you dont have to inject it for the rest of your life
2. why wouldnt you want that anyway its way better than being natty

 

[Kelly Oubre Jr]

bump that shit up bro 200 is nothing

 

[Kelly Oubre Jr]

Or just raise it naturally. Stop being an artificial man be a real one jfl.

yeah bro just naturally raise your test to 6200ng/dl bro, tell me how to do that and maybe ill stop thinking youre completely retarded

 

[b12345]

bump that shit up bro 200 is nothing

Ya I just started once it saturates it’s getting bumped to 250 maybe higher tryna see how i atomize it’s my first cycle

 

[leorules004]

I hopped off accuatne felt awful still and I had to use accutane it wasn’t like it was gonna go away it was horrible cystic acne

Then why are you now taking test? Fucking retard just raise it normally.

 

[b12345]

Then why are you now taking test? Fucking retard just raise it normally.

I’m on a low dose of accuatne

 

[b12345]

Then why are you now taking test? Fucking retard just raise it normally.

You to scared to pin so you saying this stupid shit raise it naturally when that isn’t possible when your endocrine system is permanent suppressed from accuatne so I’m taking test and a low dose accutane to prevent acne not to hard to understand that

 

[leorules004]

yeah bro just naturally raise your test to 6200ng/dl bro, tell me how to do that and maybe ill stop thinking youre completely retarded

Didn’t realise the retard here was blasting it to the extreme.

 

[Kelly Oubre Jr]

Ya I just started once it saturates it’s getting bumped to 250 maybe higher tryna see how i atomize it’s my first cycle

just do 600 bro that was my first cycle

 

[Kelly Oubre Jr]

Didn’t realise the retard here was blasting it to the extreme.

there is 0 difference between having 500 test and having 700 test, naturally increasing it is complete cope. and nobody here is taking like 50mg test to stay within the natural range thats the most retarded thing you can ever do. if you actually wanna increase your test and get results from it you pin or you keep coping

 

[Lefty Rankin]

I started 200 mg of test 1.5 weeks ago bumbing it to 250-300 at 4 weeks

It hasn’t even fully saturated at one week and I have notice significant results so far
I feel insane very confident and angry in the gym energy at work is good and I’ve gained 10 pounds (prolly alot of water) lean

You better not be getting angry in the gym around me or I'll teach you a lesson about being a man. I'll take you to school boy. I like to see young men with good cooperative attitudes.

 

[leorules004]

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there is 0 difference between having 500 test and having 700 test, naturally increasing it is complete cope. and nobody here is taking like 50mg test to stay within the natural range thats the most retarded thing you can ever do. if you actually wanna increase your test and get results from it you pin or you keep coping

I get where your coming from but 500-700 is a 40% increase which is a pretty big difference

 

[Cicciosudmaxxer]

Test is such a holy grail. On my first cycle I got to doing 300lbs on chest press, JFL roids mog

 

[Kelly Oubre Jr]

I get where your coming from but 500-700 is a 40% increase which is a pretty big difference

no it makes no practical difference. the only way you will actually see benefit in your life with a change in the normal range is if you go from likw 100-200 (clinically hypogonadal) to 800+ because then you no longer have hypogonadism. actual performance enhancing benefits come when your total t is in the thousands

 

[moggin]

1. you dont have to inject it for the rest of your life
2. why wouldnt you want that anyway its way better than being natty

1. you absolutely have to take it indefinitely if you wanna keep your dick working
2. it won't cure me of my inceldom so no point in using it

 

[Kelly Oubre Jr]

1. you absolutely have to take it indefinitely if you wanna keep your dick working

no you fucking dont and you have never pinned in your life so stfu. if you wanna come off you can pct and even if you cant be bothered to pct you can just come off cold turkey and youll recover naturally, its just test. even in years long anabolics abuse people can recover naturally with no pct this is clinically proven. stop acting like you have any idea what youre talking about man the fuck up and start blasting test

2. it won't cure me of my inceldom so no point in using it

nothing will simply cure you but a lot of things will help

 

[moggin]

no you fucking dont and you have never pinned in your life so stfu. if you wanna come off you can pct and even if you cant be bothered to pct you can just come off cold turkey and youll recover naturally, its just test. even in years long anabolics abuse people can recover naturally with no pct this is clinically proven. stop acting like you have any idea what youre talking about man the fuck up and start blasting test

you will feel horrible after hoping off since you're so used to ridiculous high levels of test

 

[moggin]

no you fucking dont and you have never pinned in your life so stfu. if you wanna come off you can pct and even if you cant be bothered to pct you can just come off cold turkey and youll recover naturally, its just test. even in years long anabolics abuse people can recover naturally with no pct this is clinically proven. stop acting like you have any idea what youre talking about man the fuck up and start blasting test

 

[Kelly Oubre Jr]

you will feel horrible after hoping off since you're so used to ridiculous high levels of test

again you have never ever pinned in your life so stop talking about shit that you dont understand. you wont feel "horrible" you just feel normal which obviously isnt as good as the feeling of being on (which isnt even actually that strong anyway) but its still normal. i barely felt a change after stopping 600 test cold turkey

and the paper you sent what exactly are you trying to say or prove?

 

[moggin]

again you have never ever pinned in your life so stop talking about shit that you dont understand. you wont feel "horrible" you just feel normal which obviously isnt as good as the feeling of being on (which isnt even actually that strong anyway) but its still normal. i barely felt a change after stopping 600 test cold turkey

and the paper you sent what exactly are you trying to say or prove?

read the study i just provided, there's a chance of developing hypogonadism after hopping off test

 

[Kelly Oubre Jr]

read the study i just provided, there's a chance of developing hypogonadism after hopping off test

firstly, no youre completely misinterpreting it. the paper isnt a study its a diagnostic paper defining prolonged post-androgen abuse hypogonadism. basically what the paper is saying is "some people that stop steroids are hypogonadal, were gonna call this prolonged post-androgen abuse hypogonadism".

secondly, you dont understand the actual meaning of hypogonadism. it doesnt mean that your balls permanently never produce test. you can be hypogonadal for a day or even a few hours, all it means is that at any point in time your balls produce less than the healthy level of test. technically a lot of guys will be hypogonadal when they are drunk, high etc, and then when theyre sober again theyre back to normal. so saying "you can develop hypogonadism after test" doesnt mean your balls will never produce test again

 

[svarddre]

I’ll pass. Waiting until I have kids

 

[moggin]

"you can develop hypogonadism after test" doesnt mean your balls will never produce test again

there could be years until full recovery you retard, try being hypogonadal for a few months let alone a few years. So if your dumbass is gonna hop on test for a long time you might as well keep being on it indefinitely, that's my point you utter monkey

 

[Kelly Oubre Jr]

there could be years until full recovery you retard, try being hypogonadal for a few months let alone a few years. So if your dumbass is gonna hop on test for a long time you might as well keep being on it indefinitely, that's my point you utter monkey

1. you absolutely have to take it indefinitely if you wanna keep your dick working
2. it won't cure me of my inceldom so no point in using it

your point wasnt "you might as well be on it indefinitely", your own words were "you absolutely have to take it indefinitely". and no it wont take years, it takes an average of 16 months to fully recover from a decade of hardcore AAS abuse. youll fully recover from 20 weeks of test in likely around 2 months, and there absolutely 0 chance it would take longer than your cycle length

 

[b12345]

read the study i just provided, there's a chance of developing hypogonadism after hopping off test

Guess what I already had it 18 years old hypogonadl I had test levels at 299 with Lh and fsh below 1 because of accutane so I’m pinning for the rest of my life anyways

 

[moggin]

Guess what I already had it 18 years old hypogonadl I had test levels at 299 with Lh and fsh below 1 because of accutane so I’m pinning for the rest of my life anyways

doubt accutane had something to do with it

 

[b12345]

doubt accutane had something to do with it

It did cause I physically felt horrible after starting but it wasn’t a choice my acne was sub human level cystic it’s gone now but my pituitary gland doesn’t work so it’s a trade off for clear skin anyways i got androgens in my bloodstream so it was worth it