igf-1 + 3 way palatal expander during puberty to fix my fucked up jaw and teeth

[Loruki]

wouldnt trust this fully. need some realist responses. dndr if you know nothing about teeth or hormones. (never trust gpt. trust ur brain JFL)

What happened
got my mandibles wisdom teeth removed @ late 14 years old bc of a downswung maxilla (maxilla goes downward and brings back or recesses the mandible) promoting downward growth. this fucked up my lower teeth which has more crowding than the upper one. the lower ones needed to be removed because it started causing problems via jaw pain on left side, so both got removed. i mewed and thumbpulled to halt that downward growth at 13 years old. i was also hormone deficient growing up b/c of poor diet. I still have my upper wisdom teeth.

My plan
its pretty obvious from the ai response, but i am getting a 3 way expander for the upper jaw to expand my palate, fix my crossbite, and save the upper teeth. ill use it for like 6 months- a year. then while im doing that, ima start hghmaxxing and turn that into igf-1 in significant amounts with an aromatase inhibitor to promote growth of the mandibles cartilage which in turn will form new bone. roiding and injecting. ik how to stop side effects.


if igf-1 will not work, then id consider BSSO rather than bimax. these jew orthodontists are so good at cucking people.

im praying i have acromegaly or any other tumor JFL.

@soggra @divinitypsl @AverageMoroccan @Evgeniy291 @persuss @jué @FrenchareMedCucks @diditeverbegin
i know im a teethcel, but reply and lemme see what you think about this? turning 15 soon: growth plates still open, sutures loose, and orthos never mentioned a palatal expander because they are jews. im ordering my own online. ill get braces after the expander.

 

[iblamemandible7]

Nigga chatgpt cannot be trusted for physiology especially if you frame a question like that it will almost always agree with you

If youre past 14 no hormones will make a meaningful change but keep coping instead of saving up for hardmax

 

[Loruki]

Nigga chatgpt cannot be trusted for physiology especially if you frame a question like that it will almost always agree with you

yeah i know. its bluepill cope.

 

[Loruki]

Nigga chatgpt cannot be trusted for physiology especially if you frame a question like that it will almost always agree with you

If youre past 14 no hormones will make a meaningful change but keep coping instead of saving up for hardmax

im gonna roid

 

[iblamemandible7]

im gonna roid

How tall are you?

 

[Loruki]

How tall are you?

5'11 now. i grew 2 inches over the past 2-4 months. testmaxxing too which is helping my eye area a little bit

 

[iblamemandible7]

5'11 now. i grew 2 inches over the past 2-4 months

Roiding is risky bro realistically looking at real life examples it wont make a meaningful difference for your face beyond what endogenous hormones will do

But it will shut your growth plates tf down if youre not working with a skilled pediatric endo

 

[Loruki]

Roiding is risky bro realistically looking at real life examples it wont make a meaningful difference for your face beyond what endogenous hormones will do

But it will shut your growth plates tf down if youre not working with a skilled pediatric endo

yeah i know. ill just use an aromtase inhib for now. ill try to increase natural hgh

 

[soggra]

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wouldnt trust this fully. need some realist responses. dndr if you know nothing about teeth or hormones. (never trust gpt. trust ur brain JFL)

What happened
got my mandibles wisdom teeth removed @ late 14 years old bc of a downswung maxilla (maxilla goes downward and brings back or recesses the mandible) promoting downward growth. this fucked up my lower teeth which has more crowding than the upper one. the lower ones needed to be removed because it started causing problems via jaw pain on left side, so both got removed. i mewed and thumbpulled to halt that downward growth at 13 years old. i was also hormone deficient growing up b/c of poor diet. I still have my upper wisdom teeth.

My plan
its pretty obvious from the ai response, but i am getting a 3 way expander for the upper jaw to expand my palate, fix my crossbite, and save the upper teeth. ill use it for like 6 months- a year. then while im doing that, ima start hghmaxxing and turn that into igf-1 in significant amounts with an aromatase inhibitor to promote growth of the mandibles cartilage which in turn will form new bone. roiding and injecting. ik how to stop side effects.


if igf-1 will not work, then id consider BSSO rather than bimax. these jew orthodontists are so good at cucking people.

View attachment 3495836

im praying i have acromegaly or any other tumor JFL.

@soggra @divinitypsl @AverageMoroccan @Evgeniy291 @persuss @jué @FrenchareMedCucks @diditeverbegin
i know im a teethcel, but reply and lemme see what you think about this? turning 15 soon: growth plates still open, sutures loose, and orthos never mentioned a palatal expander because they are jews. im ordering my own online. ill get braces after the expander.

It’s a pretty good plan. Just make sure your diet and sleep is on point while doing this as well and get sunlight, vitamin d helps bones of course.

 

[Deleted member 65279]

ima start hghmaxxing and turn that into igf-1 in significant amounts

Wouldn't work like that because when the HGH CAUSES the Liver to make IGF-1.

Dont get excited now BOY . IGFBPs attachs the IGF-1 which effectively regulates it/gets rid of it.

Get excited now BOY . But you can take IGF-1 LR3 which works systemically while DES works localised (only in that area). Also different half lives. LR3 lasts 20-30 hours I believe and DES lasts for 20-30 minutes.

Don't get excited now BOY again . Problem with IGF-1 LR3 (not with DES and it has a very short half life) is your body will get used to IGF-1 and won't be that effective due to it getting desensitised.

Get excited now BOY again . With IGF-1 LR3 you have to cycle it on and off usually bodybuilders cycle it for 4-6 weeks and then hop off for 4-8 weeks.

If you have read all of it PM I want to run an experiment on you which may help

 

[Loruki]

Wouldn't work like that because when the HGH CAUSES the Liver to make IGF-1.

Dont get excited now BOY . IGFBPs attachs the IGF-1 which effectively regulates it/gets rid of it.

Get excited now BOY . But you can take IGF-1 LR3 which works systemically while DES works localised (only in that area). Also different half lives. LR3 lasts 20-30 hours I believe and DES lasts for 20-30 minutes.

Don't get excited now BOY again . Problem with IGF-1 LR3 (not with DES and it has a very short half life) is your body will get used to IGF-1 and won't be that effective due to it getting desensitised.

Get excited now BOY again . With IGF-1 LR3 you have to cycle it on and off usually bodybuilders cycle it for 4-6 weeks and then hop off for 4-8 weeks.

If you have read all of it PM I want to run an experiment on you which may help

read it all pm me

 

[Deleted member 65279]

Roiding is risky bro realistically looking at real life examples it wont make a meaningful difference for your face beyond what endogenous hormones will do

But it will shut your growth plates tf down if youre not working with a skilled pediatric endo

Roids side effects can be easily mitigated. "skilled pediatic endo" LMAO. One google search away on how to mitigate that as well.

Ignore OP he doesn't know anything

 

[Deleted member 76189]

yeah i know. ill just use an aromtase inhib for now. ill try to increase natural hgh

aromatase inhibs completely kill ur estrogen, and so if there's no estrogen u can produce testosterone normally cuz LH gets produced when there's some estrogen in ur brain, that's why aromatase inhibs make ur growth plates remain open longer but it totally kills ur test along with estrogen

 

[Loruki]

aromatase inhibs completely kill ur estrogen, and so if there's no estrogen u can produce testosterone normally cuz LH gets produced when there's some estrogen in ur brain, that's why aromatase inhibs make ur growth plates remain open longer but it totally kills ur test along with estrogen

ill use a natural ai

 

[Deleted member 76189]

ill use a natural ai

u mean like boron, zinc and other stuff? If u would take boron dont take it longterm, u have to cycle boron cuz it will increase estrogen if u take it too long

 

[Loruki]

u mean like boron, zinc and other stuff? If u would take boron dont take it longterm, u have to cycle boron cuz it will increase estrogen if u take it too long

arimistane

 

[stufftodo]

Nigga chatgpt cannot be trusted for physiology especially if you frame a question like that it will almost always agree with you

If youre past 14 no hormones will make a meaningful change but keep coping instead of saving up for hardmax

not at all. egyptian dwarfs were literally malformed because they were deficient in zinc and hormones and didn't grow. if you were ever deficient during stages of puberty and are still in puberty your body will try to accommodate and build your body the way it was supposed to.

 

[bkatzer]

arimistane

Have u tried it yet? Tried checking online about it but theres not much about side effects or anything

 

[HandsomeHustler]

aromatase inhibs completely kill ur estrogen, and so if there's no estrogen u can produce testosterone normally cuz LH gets produced when there's some estrogen in ur brain, that's why aromatase inhibs make ur growth plates remain open longer but it totally kills ur test along with estrogen

It will give you obviously a higher test level, since less testosterone will be converted via aromatase and you brain will signal you leydig cells to produce more sexhormones via positive feedback of lower estrogen. Any aromatase inhibitor wont crash your estrogen at normal dosages

 

[shaggybaggy696]

Nigga chatgpt cannot be trusted for physiology especially if you frame a question like that it will almost always agree with you

If youre past 14 no hormones will make a meaningful change but keep coping instead of saving up for hardmax

horrible advice, hormones will change you significantly as your receptors are still sensitive to androgens and igf-1 until like 22-25 in your facial bones. puberty itself is like a "mini roid cycle"

"

• Verdonck et al. (1999, European Journal of Orthodontics) – This study examined the effect of low-dose testosterone treatment on craniofacial growth in boys with delayed puberty. The findings indicated that testosterone accelerates statural and craniofacial growth, particularly in the delayed components, leading towards a normalization of facial dimensions.
• Behrents (1985, "Growth in the Aging Craniofacial Skeleton") – This research provides an in-depth analysis of how craniofacial structures continue to change into adulthood. The study found that facial bones, particularly the jaw and facial structures, continue subtle expansion into the early 20s.
• Sella & Giona (2011, Journal of Craniofacial Surgery) – This study discusses the continuation of facial bone growth until approximately ages 23-25. The research highlights that certain craniofacial structures may continue to develop subtly into the mid-20s.
• Marečková et al. (2011, Hormones and Behavior) – This study utilized MRI imaging to show that higher testosterone levels during puberty and early adulthood correlate with stronger lower facial growth. The findings suggest that testosterone plays a significant role in the development of masculine facial features.
• Bhasin et al. (2001, Journal of Clinical Endocrinology & Metabolism) – This research found that testosterone levels predict muscle growth and jaw structure changes. Higher testosterone levels during puberty are associated with increased muscle mass and more pronounced jaw development.

igf is no different

Facial growth in males 16 to 20 years of age - PubMed

Postpubertal craniofacial skeletal and dental changes were examined from lateral cephalograms taken when subjects were 16, 18, and 20 years of age. The sample consisted of males with no previous orthodontic treatment who had Class I skeletal and dental characteristics. Mandibular growth was...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

"Growth from 16 to 18 years was greater than that from 18 to 20 years. Maxillary and mandibular growth were highly correlated at each age period. However, overall mandibular growth was approximately twice that of overall maxillary growth"

 

[2marc1]

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wouldnt trust this fully. need some realist responses. dndr if you know nothing about teeth or hormones. (never trust gpt. trust ur brain JFL)

What happened
got my mandibles wisdom teeth removed @ late 14 years old bc of a downswung maxilla (maxilla goes downward and brings back or recesses the mandible) promoting downward growth. this fucked up my lower teeth which has more crowding than the upper one. the lower ones needed to be removed because it started causing problems via jaw pain on left side, so both got removed. i mewed and thumbpulled to halt that downward growth at 13 years old. i was also hormone deficient growing up b/c of poor diet. I still have my upper wisdom teeth.

My plan
its pretty obvious from the ai response, but i am getting a 3 way expander for the upper jaw to expand my palate, fix my crossbite, and save the upper teeth. ill use it for like 6 months- a year. then while im doing that, ima start hghmaxxing and turn that into igf-1 in significant amounts with an aromatase inhibitor to promote growth of the mandibles cartilage which in turn will form new bone. roiding and injecting. ik how to stop side effects.


if igf-1 will not work, then id consider BSSO rather than bimax. these jew orthodontists are so good at cucking people.

View attachment 3495836

im praying i have acromegaly or any other tumor JFL.

@soggra @divinitypsl @AverageMoroccan @Evgeniy291 @persuss @jué @FrenchareMedCucks @diditeverbegin
i know im a teethcel, but reply and lemme see what you think about this? turning 15 soon: growth plates still open, sutures loose, and orthos never mentioned a palatal expander because they are jews. im ordering my own online. ill get braces after the expander.

3 way expander

 

[Corpuscula]

yeah i know. ill just use an aromtase inhib for now. ill try to increase natural hgh

wait did you use test WITHOUT AN AI?

 

[Loruki]

wait did you use test WITHOUT AN AI?

No

 

[LoveToMog]

wait did you use test WITHOUT AN AI?

What’s wrong with just doing test e and what’s an ai? lol

 

[choro]

What’s wrong with just doing test e and what’s an ai? lol

Ai mean:ahh I love sucking big dick black nigger jewish