I'll reconvert to Islam if...

[Averagecel]

you can show me that hell is not eternal for anyone.

Eternal punishment bothers me more than the Ayesha thing

Please enlighten me muslims, I'm just a lost soul

Now you have the chance to increase in number and gain more points for the hereafter

This is 100% serious

 

[zerotohero]

Jesus is lord.

 

[Averagecel]

@MaghrebGator

 

[Averagecel]

@shia.jihadist @ryuken

 

[Averagecel]

@209owais

 

[Averagecel]

Jesus is lord.

Hallelujah

 

[MaghrebGator]

First, we both know that deep inside yourself those are not the motives of your disbelief.

Second, hell is eternal for many people, and not only it will be eternal but infinitely harsh and fierce to a lot of people, especially the most wicked on earth like the Pharaoh of Musa (Peace and Blessings be upon him), or the people that wanted to kill Jesus (Peace and Blessings be upon him). That is non negotiable, just like tyrants like Bashar Al Assad or Netanyahu didn't have mercy on women and children when they had an entire lifetime in which all of that injustice and oppression could have been reversed in a mere effortless order.

Islam is not a religion that begs anyone to revert and does not need reverts, the one who is granted the honour of becoming a muslim is because Allah is showering him with His Mercy, and not the other way around, for when the muslims were merely a few hundreds they managed to take over half of the world because of their trust in Allah, and not because of their trust in the ones who roam on earth.

We definetly invite people to revert to Islam but that doesn’t mean we beg them, and we are definetly not inviting them to a new religion that fits their shapes, whims and desires under the masquerade of Islam. The conditions for Islam are set in stone and they are non negotiable, the pen has been lifted and the pages have dried. Millions have struggled throughout their entire lifetimes to adapt to them, others got lost in the road due to their weakness, corruption and greed, and Islam never changed and will never change, contrary to other imperfect and deviant religions.

On the authority of Abu Abbas Abdullah bin Abbas (may Allah be pleased with him) who said: One day I was behind the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) [riding on the same mount] and he said, “O young man, I shall teach you some words [of advice]: Be mindful of Allah and Allah will protect you. Be mindful of Allah and you will find Him in front of you. If you ask, then ask Allah [alone]; and if you seek help, then seek help from Allah [alone]. And know that if the nation were to gather together to benefit you with anything, they would not benefit you except with what Allah had already prescribed for you. And if they were to gather together to harm you with anything, they would not harm you except with what Allah had already prescribed against you. The pens have been lifted and the pages have dried.”


Islam is the most merciful religion out of all the main ones, with guarantees like these that you won't find in any other faith in regards to the one whose knowledge didn't reach, the child, the old, the disabled. Allah says (interpretation of the meaning): “And We never punish until We have sent a Messenger (to give warning).” [Al-Isra 17:15]

Al-Aswad ibn Sari` (may Allah be pleased with him) reported that the Prophet of Allah (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said: There are four (who will protest) to Allah on the Day of Resurrection: the deaf man who never heard anything, the insane man, the very old man, and the man (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him)). The deaf man will say, O Lord, Islam came but I never heard anything. The insane man will say, O Lord, Islam came but the children ran after me and threw stones at me. The very old man will say, O Lord, Islam came but I did not understand anything. The man who died during the Fatrah will say, O Lord, no Messenger from You came to me. He will accept their promises of obedience, then word will be sent to them to enter the Fire. By the One in Whose Hand is the soul of Muhammad, if they enter it, it will be cool and safe for them.
Hasna` bint Mu`awiyyah from Bani Suraym said: “My paternal uncle told me: I said, O Messenger of Allah, who will be in Paradise? He said: “Prophets will be in Paradise, martyrs will be in Paradise, infants will be in Paradise and baby girls who were buried alive will be in Paradise.” (Female baby burial was an ancient arab polytheist practicd that the Prophet himself abolished)
In another hadith, the Prophet of Allah is narrated saying -"...As for the tall man whom you saw in the garden, he is Ibraaheem and the children around him are those children who die in a state of fitrah (sound human nature).” Some of the Muslims said: O Messenger of Allah, what about the children of the mushrikeen (polytheists)? The Messenger of Allah (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) said: “And also the children of the mushrikeen.”
If Islam was to adapt to the whims of every human being who was interested on it, it would become another prostitute religion like many others, and Allah will never allow our deen to reach such a disgrace, for our religion is set to change people and not the other way around.

Allah warns us about the imperfect conditions of the human being over and over in the Qur'an, and the perfect does not adapt to that which is imperfect, and the truth does not adapt to falsehood.

• “Most of them do not reason” (Al-Hijr: 4, Al-Ankabut: 63).

• “Most of them do not know” (Ad-Dukhan: 39, Al-Tur: 47, Luqman: 25, Yunus: 55).

• “Most of them are ignorant” (Al-An’am: 111).

• “Most of them do not believe” (Al-Baqara: 100).

• “Most of them are wicked” (At-Tawbah: 8).

• “Most of them hate the truth” (Al-Mu’minun: 70).

• “Most of them are liars” (Ash-Shu’ara: 223).

Allah says (Interpretation of the meaning): And if you obey most of those upon the earth, they will mislead you from the way of Allah. They follow not except assumption, and they are not but merely guessing.

 

[LTNUser]

If you need the fear of punishment to be good
Are you really good?

 

[209owais]

you arent even muslim g

 

[Underdog9494]

Don't

 

[Underdog9494]

Just cause ur Muslim doesn't mean you go to that hell or heaven

 

[209owais]

Just cause ur Muslim doesn't mean you go to that hell or heaven

He seems to be claiming to be an ex Muslim but in another thread he literally said he has paranoid schizophrenia so I dont know what to make of this guy

 

[Deleted member 110759]

I think Islam is one of the worst religions tbh. It mainly has to do with how it interweaves with culture and how it has evolved over time. It is incompatible with the modern western world at large, sadly. Furthermore, it never went through secularization and was not tamed down like Christantiy or adapted to the times. You even have a ton of people actively cheering for the fall of Assad's regime and the takeover of a Jihadist, fundamentalist, Islamic regime. When Assad himself was secular, which I find comparable to Turkey and it being able to successfully evolve to the modern age.

You have no freedom from religion. Which is a huge negative in my opinion. IF you are not of a religion, you shouldn't be bound by its laws. With all the migrants bringing these types of ideas, it strikes me as Jihadist in nature. Stay in the country of origin that supports such religious laws, don't bring that shit and actively try to get others unrelated to take such values.

 

[Mosh12]

I think Islam is one of the worst religions tbh. It mainly has to do with how it interweaves with culture and how it has evolved over time. It is incompatible with the modern western world at large, sadly. Furthermore, it never went through secularization and was not tamed down like Christantiy or adapted to the times. You even have a ton of people actively cheering for the fall of Assad's regime and the takeover of a Jihadist, fundamentalist, Islamic regime. When Assad himself was secular, which I find comparable to Turkey and it being able to successfully evolve to the modern age.

You have no freedom from religion. Which is a huge negative in my opinion. IF you are not of a religion, you shouldn't be bound by its laws. With all the migrants bringing these types of ideas, it strikes me as Jihadist in nature. Stay in the country of origin that supports such religious laws, don't bring that shit and actively try to get others unrelated to take such values.

Islam is monotheistic and promotes morality and traditional values. Whereas the west is inferior and backwards.

 

[Deleted member 107111]

rabbit

 

[Deleted member 59278]

All religions are hoaxes. Why would I care if you convert or not. It's your loss.

 

[Thebuffdon]

First, we both know that deep inside yourself those are not the motives of your disbelief.

Second, hell is eternal for many people, and not only it will be eternal but infinitely harsh and fierce to a lot of people, especially the most wicked on earth like the Pharaoh of Musa (Peace and Blessings be upon him), or the people that wanted to kill Jesus (Peace and Blessings be upon him). That is non negotiable, just like tyrants like Bashar Al Assad or Netanyahu didn't have mercy on women and children when they had an entire lifetime in which all of that injustice and oppression could have been reversed in a mere effortless order.

Islam is not a religion that begs anyone to revert and does not need reverts, the one who is granted the honour of becoming a muslim is because Allah is showering him with His Mercy, and not the other way around, for when the muslims were merely a few hundreds they managed to take over half of the world because of their trust in Allah, and not because of their trust in the ones who roam on earth.

We definetly invite people to revert to Islam but that doesn’t mean we beg them, and we are definetly not inviting them to a new religion that fits their shapes, whims and desires under the masquerade of Islam. The conditions for Islam are set in stone and they are non negotiable, the pen has been lifted and the pages have dried. Millions have struggled throughout their entire lifetimes to adapt to them, others got lost in the road due to their weakness, corruption and greed, and Islam never changed and will never change, contrary to other imperfect and deviant religions.

On the authority of Abu Abbas Abdullah bin Abbas (may Allah be pleased with him) who said: One day I was behind the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) [riding on the same mount] and he said, “O young man, I shall teach you some words [of advice]: Be mindful of Allah and Allah will protect you. Be mindful of Allah and you will find Him in front of you. If you ask, then ask Allah [alone]; and if you seek help, then seek help from Allah [alone]. And know that if the nation were to gather together to benefit you with anything, they would not benefit you except with what Allah had already prescribed for you. And if they were to gather together to harm you with anything, they would not harm you except with what Allah had already prescribed against you. The pens have been lifted and the pages have dried.”


Islam is the most merciful religion out of all the main ones, with guarantees like these that you won't find in any other faith in regards to the one whose knowledge didn't reach, the child, the old, the disabled. Allah says (interpretation of the meaning): “And We never punish until We have sent a Messenger (to give warning).” [Al-Isra 17:15]

Al-Aswad ibn Sari` (may Allah be pleased with him) reported that the Prophet of Allah (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said: There are four (who will protest) to Allah on the Day of Resurrection: the deaf man who never heard anything, the insane man, the very old man, and the man (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him)). The deaf man will say, O Lord, Islam came but I never heard anything. The insane man will say, O Lord, Islam came but the children ran after me and threw stones at me. The very old man will say, O Lord, Islam came but I did not understand anything. The man who died during the Fatrah will say, O Lord, no Messenger from You came to me. He will accept their promises of obedience, then word will be sent to them to enter the Fire. By the One in Whose Hand is the soul of Muhammad, if they enter it, it will be cool and safe for them.
Hasna` bint Mu`awiyyah from Bani Suraym said: “My paternal uncle told me: I said, O Messenger of Allah, who will be in Paradise? He said: “Prophets will be in Paradise, martyrs will be in Paradise, infants will be in Paradise and baby girls who were buried alive will be in Paradise.” (Female baby burial was an ancient arab polytheist practicd that the Prophet himself abolished)
In another hadith, the Prophet of Allah is narrated saying -"...As for the tall man whom you saw in the garden, he is Ibraaheem and the children around him are those children who die in a state of fitrah (sound human nature).” Some of the Muslims said: O Messenger of Allah, what about the children of the mushrikeen (polytheists)? The Messenger of Allah (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) said: “And also the children of the mushrikeen.”
If Islam was to adapt to the whims of every human being who was interested on it, it would become another prostitute religion like many others, and Allah will never allow our deen to reach such a disgrace, for our religion is set to change people and not the other way around.

Allah warns us about the imperfect conditions of the human being over and over in the Qur'an, and the perfect does not adapt to that which is imperfect, and the truth does not adapt to falsehood.

• “Most of them do not reason” (Al-Hijr: 4, Al-Ankabut: 63).

• “Most of them do not know” (Ad-Dukhan: 39, Al-Tur: 47, Luqman: 25, Yunus: 55).

• “Most of them are ignorant” (Al-An’am: 111).

• “Most of them do not believe” (Al-Baqara: 100).

• “Most of them are wicked” (At-Tawbah: 8).

• “Most of them hate the truth” (Al-Mu’minun: 70).

• “Most of them are liars” (Ash-Shu’ara: 223).

Allah says (Interpretation of the meaning): And if you obey most of those upon the earth, they will mislead you from the way of Allah. They follow not except assumption, and they are not but merely guessing.

@PrinceLuenLeoncur hes always so desperate lol

I love tagging u in these

 

[Mosh12]

@PrinceLuenLeoncur hes always so desperate lol

I love tagging u in these

Are you Christian ?

 

[Deleted member 110759]

Islam is monotheistic and promotes morality and traditional values. Whereas the west is inferior and backwards.

Yet, the west was the one that strove forward and created our current modern era. With all the technology and amenities that we enjoy. And how was it done? Through evolution and adaptation. Although much of it was created through academics which are tied to religion, a decent amount needed to separate itself, and break the stagnate dogma of the past.

But even with religion, Islam had a Golden Age which saw inventions and ideas being brought to the forefront. Also, they saved a lot of the ancient text from the Greeks/Antiquity. So it's not as black and white as I am typing. I am also not 100% sure about the scholars themselves and how dogmatic they were tbh.

If you agree with the traditional values of Islam. Then fine. But don't come to the west or other nations and try and make them like islamic nations. The amount of those that follow it too who say they are religious yet cheat in ways is crazy. I knew a large amount and many would drink, smoke weed, whore around, etc. Then say they could pray it off was kind of crazy. Although I am sure other religions have the same thing.

 

[Thebuffdon]

Are you Christian ?

No

 

[Mosh12]

Yet, the west was the one that strove forward and created our current modern era. With all the technology and amenities that we enjoy. And how was it done? Through evolution and adaptation. Although much of it was created through academics which are tied to religion, a decent amount needed to separate itself, and break the stagnate dogma of the past.

But even with religion, Islam had a Golden Age which saw inventions and ideas being brought to the forefront. Also, they saved a lot of the ancient text from the Greeks/Antiquity. So it's not as black and white as I am typing. I am also not 100% sure about the scholars themselves and how dogmatic they were tbh.

If you agree with the traditional values of Islam. Then fine. But don't come to the west or other nations and try and make them like islamic nations. The amount of those that follow it too who say they are religious yet cheat in ways is crazy. I knew a large amount and many would drink, smoke weed, whore around, etc. Then say they could pray it off was kind of crazy. Although I am sure other religions have the same thing.

 

[Mosh12]

No

What are you ? Why defend Christianity who is a plagiarism of Judaism ?

 

[Thebuffdon]

What are you ? Why defend Christianity who is a plagiarism of Judaism ?

Because it’s not, it’s an extension

I’m a Muslim

 

[Mosh12]

Because it’s not, it’s an extension

I’m a Muslim

Nah Judaism isn’t even a religion
It’s a race

 

[Thebuffdon]

Nah Judaism isn’t even a religion
It’s a race

Never heard that one b4

- Ignores everything else

 

[Mosh12]

Never heard that one b4

- Ignores everything else

Landmark study proves 90% of Jews are genetically linked to the Levant

Jews in communities around the globe show more genetic similarities with each other than they do with their non-Jewish neighbors, except in India and Ethiopia.

www.haaretz.com

No other religion is so genetically homogenous

 

[Thebuffdon]

Landmark study proves 90% of Jews are genetically linked to the Levant

Jews in communities around the globe show more genetic similarities with each other than they do with their non-Jewish neighbors, except in India and Ethiopia.

www.haaretz.com

No other religion is so genetically homogenous

Idgaf you ignore every point and act like u did something

Don’t ask questions you won’t address the answer to

 

[Mosh12]

Idgaf you ignore every point and act like u did something

Don’t ask questions you won’t address the answer to

You didn’t make a point. Judaism is quite categorically against Christianity. But keep on worshipping a dead Jew. Very based

 

[Thebuffdon]

You didn’t make a point. Judaism is quite categorically against Christianity. But keep on worshipping a dead Jew. Very based

I said I’m Muslim lol

You just purposefully ignore it

So I’m gonna ignore you

 

[Mosh12]

I said I’m Muslim lol

You just purposefully ignore it

So I’m gonna ignore you

So why are you tagging an anti Muslim?

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

@PrinceLuenLeoncur hes always so desperate lol

I love tagging u in these

@MaghrebGator is the greatest defender of Dara Al Islama on this forum however he has been humbled by your resident BBC Crusading terror of Al Jihadis, Killer of the Ghazzi warriors and the Bane of Sharia and the deen of MO MO, me.

 

[MoggerGaston]

vote kaligula

 

[ryuken]

First, we both know that deep inside yourself those are not the motives of your disbelief.

Second, hell is eternal for many people, and not only it will be eternal but infinitely harsh and fierce to a lot of people, especially the most wicked on earth like the Pharaoh of Musa (Peace and Blessings be upon him), or the people that wanted to kill Jesus (Peace and Blessings be upon him). That is non negotiable, just like tyrants like Bashar Al Assad or Netanyahu didn't have mercy on women and children when they had an entire lifetime in which all of that injustice and oppression could have been reversed in a mere effortless order.

Islam is not a religion that begs anyone to revert and does not need reverts, the one who is granted the honour of becoming a muslim is because Allah is showering him with His Mercy, and not the other way around, for when the muslims were merely a few hundreds they managed to take over half of the world because of their trust in Allah, and not because of their trust in the ones who roam on earth.

We definetly invite people to revert to Islam but that doesn’t mean we beg them, and we are definetly not inviting them to a new religion that fits their shapes, whims and desires under the masquerade of Islam. The conditions for Islam are set in stone and they are non negotiable, the pen has been lifted and the pages have dried. Millions have struggled throughout their entire lifetimes to adapt to them, others got lost in the road due to their weakness, corruption and greed, and Islam never changed and will never change, contrary to other imperfect and deviant religions.

On the authority of Abu Abbas Abdullah bin Abbas (may Allah be pleased with him) who said: One day I was behind the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) [riding on the same mount] and he said, “O young man, I shall teach you some words [of advice]: Be mindful of Allah and Allah will protect you. Be mindful of Allah and you will find Him in front of you. If you ask, then ask Allah [alone]; and if you seek help, then seek help from Allah [alone]. And know that if the nation were to gather together to benefit you with anything, they would not benefit you except with what Allah had already prescribed for you. And if they were to gather together to harm you with anything, they would not harm you except with what Allah had already prescribed against you. The pens have been lifted and the pages have dried.”


Islam is the most merciful religion out of all the main ones, with guarantees like these that you won't find in any other faith in regards to the one whose knowledge didn't reach, the child, the old, the disabled. Allah says (interpretation of the meaning): “And We never punish until We have sent a Messenger (to give warning).” [Al-Isra 17:15]

Al-Aswad ibn Sari` (may Allah be pleased with him) reported that the Prophet of Allah (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said: There are four (who will protest) to Allah on the Day of Resurrection: the deaf man who never heard anything, the insane man, the very old man, and the man (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him)). The deaf man will say, O Lord, Islam came but I never heard anything. The insane man will say, O Lord, Islam came but the children ran after me and threw stones at me. The very old man will say, O Lord, Islam came but I did not understand anything. The man who died during the Fatrah will say, O Lord, no Messenger from You came to me. He will accept their promises of obedience, then word will be sent to them to enter the Fire. By the One in Whose Hand is the soul of Muhammad, if they enter it, it will be cool and safe for them.
Hasna` bint Mu`awiyyah from Bani Suraym said: “My paternal uncle told me: I said, O Messenger of Allah, who will be in Paradise? He said: “Prophets will be in Paradise, martyrs will be in Paradise, infants will be in Paradise and baby girls who were buried alive will be in Paradise.” (Female baby burial was an ancient arab polytheist practicd that the Prophet himself abolished)
In another hadith, the Prophet of Allah is narrated saying -"...As for the tall man whom you saw in the garden, he is Ibraaheem and the children around him are those children who die in a state of fitrah (sound human nature).” Some of the Muslims said: O Messenger of Allah, what about the children of the mushrikeen (polytheists)? The Messenger of Allah (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) said: “And also the children of the mushrikeen.”
If Islam was to adapt to the whims of every human being who was interested on it, it would become another prostitute religion like many others, and Allah will never allow our deen to reach such a disgrace, for our religion is set to change people and not the other way around.

Allah warns us about the imperfect conditions of the human being over and over in the Qur'an, and the perfect does not adapt to that which is imperfect, and the truth does not adapt to falsehood.

• “Most of them do not reason” (Al-Hijr: 4, Al-Ankabut: 63).

• “Most of them do not know” (Ad-Dukhan: 39, Al-Tur: 47, Luqman: 25, Yunus: 55).

• “Most of them are ignorant” (Al-An’am: 111).

• “Most of them do not believe” (Al-Baqara: 100).

• “Most of them are wicked” (At-Tawbah: 8).

• “Most of them hate the truth” (Al-Mu’minun: 70).

• “Most of them are liars” (Ash-Shu’ara: 223).

Allah says (Interpretation of the meaning): And if you obey most of those upon the earth, they will mislead you from the way of Allah. They follow not except assumption, and they are not but merely guessing.

Love you brother