I’m 17 and struggle to talk to girls even when they come up to me first.

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I grew up unattractive, and throughout my childhood, I didn’t have any real conversations with girls. I never had female friends or felt comfortable around them. In high school, I started hanging out with a few girls ( after I had a small glow up), but it was mostly in group settings at parties with my guy friends. Even when some of them tried to connect with me one-on-one, I’d dodge the interaction. I struggled with eye contact, didn’t know what to say, and often felt like I had nothing meaningful to contribute. Now that I’m about to start college, I really want to change this. I want to be able to have genuine conversations, build real connections, and eventually find a girlfriend. But I feel like I’ve developed a habit of unintentionally pushing people away. Any advices ? Sorry if this is a corny first post
 
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Talk to LTB and build up that’s all I can say
 
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Talk to LTB and build up that’s all I can say
i try to talk to more unattractive girls but I still find myself in the same position has if I was talking to the prettiest girl in the world. Is this even fixable ?
 
i try to talk to more unattractive girls but I still find myself in the same position has if I was talking to the prettiest girl in the world. Is this even fixable ?
Nigga you go to parties tho, that's good. Never been invited to one even though I am decently good looking. See people hate when LTNs ascend and they just think you are genetically like that forever. Which is why I hate foids.
 
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Nigga you go to parties tho, that's good. Never been invited to one even though I am decently good looking. See people hate when LTNs ascend and they just think you are genetically like that forever. Which is why I hate foids.
I’m really social with guys so I have a decent friend group but I also feel like they are all too neuro for me. like I enjoy partying with them because I can abuse substances and stuff but u would never catch me doing something with them without a buzz.
 
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I grew up unattractive, and throughout my childhood, I didn’t have any real conversations with girls. I never had female friends or felt comfortable around them. In high school, I started hanging out with a few girls ( after I had a small glow up), but it was mostly in group settings at parties with my guy friends. Even when some of them tried to connect with me one-on-one, I’d dodge the interaction. I struggled with eye contact, didn’t know what to say, and often felt like I had nothing meaningful to contribute. Now that I’m about to start college, I really want to change this. I want to be able to have genuine conversations, build real connections, and eventually find a girlfriend. But I feel like I’ve developed a habit of unintentionally pushing people away. Any advices ? Sorry if this is a corny first post
I know exactly what this is and I went through the same thing. If you don’t feel like reading, basically treat everyone like guys, we are all animals if you think about it. If you didn’t know anything about animal bone structure then you wouldn’t know if a dog is a girl or not by looking its face only. If you just treat them like guys that you just met as in kinda walk on eggshells around them but be yourself then you’re set. I was very unattractive all my life, I have recently hit high mtn/low htn. So I know exactly what you’re feeling. I used to think of girls as accomplishments, so do the rest of the people on this org, that’s why they call fucking a girl as slaying them. Once you understand that their thoughts, their opinions, their choices legit don’t affect you, you start not caring. It will lead to a way of (I know this is corny) going towards personality more since most girls are extremely stupid and boring. Once you understand that there is no big accomplishment from being with a girl, and how their opinions don’t matter, you will just stop caring about them. Kinda like the ideal that everyone is npcs but you are the only real character.
 
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I’m really social with guys so I have a decent friend group but I also feel like they are all too neuro for me. like I enjoy partying with them because I can abuse substances and stuff but u would never catch me doing something with them without a buzz.
imo you should stop decently becoming grown to foids and just fuck a bunch of girls and dump them. Later on marry. Foids will ruin your college experience because they cheat on you anyway.
 
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I know exactly what this is and I went through the same thing. If you don’t feel like reading, basically treat everyone like guys, we are all animals if you think about it. If you didn’t know anything about animal bone structure then you wouldn’t know if a dog is a girl or not by looking its face only. If you just treat them like guys that you just met as in kinda walk on eggshells around them but be yourself then you’re set. I was very unattractive all my life, I have recently hit high mtn/low htn. So I know exactly what you’re feeling. I used to think of girls as accomplishments, so do the rest of the people on this org, that’s why they call fucking a girl as slaying them. Once you understand that their thoughts, their opinions, their choices legit don’t affect you, you start not caring. It will lead to a way of (I know this is corny) going towards personality more since most girls are extremely stupid and boring. Once you understand that there is no big accomplishment from being with a girl, and how their opinions don’t matter, you will just stop caring about them. Kinda like the ideal that everyone is npcs but you are the only real character.
Problem is even if I tell myself this I tend to fall in love with any girls that jus looks at me too long because of the fact I’ve never kissed hugged or even held hands. I feel like I’m also around MTN even tho I’ve only been rated on the mogwart server but it’s all TikTok braindeads on there but I’m not sure. Maybe i just have a massive ego because some days I feel like I’m so good looking just for the next day to feel like I’m the ugliest man on earth. Also I can tell myself that their opinions don’t matter but deep down all day I just be fixing my posture and even asking myself if I’m walking correctly just because I feel like every girl I walk past is watching me. Idk how to explain it but I feel Like every girl is in love with me. Even tho I’m mid mtn at best. I feel like such a complicated person with no one that’s like me enough to understand me. I have so many things that I want to fix about myself but I also have 0 will to do it because I’m a lazy bum
 
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imo you should stop decently becoming grown to foids and just fuck a bunch of girls and dump them. Later on marry. Foids will ruin your college experience because they cheat on you anyway.
I keep on telling myself that I want to date to marry but deep down I really just wanna bang because I’m a horny loser that never did anything with a girl. I don’t care if they cheat on me all I want is the experience and the feeling. Also I want to marry a girl that’s like me enough even tho that’s a 1 in a billion atp lol
 
Problem is even if I tell myself this I tend to fall in love with any girls that jus looks at me too long because of the fact I’ve never kissed hugged or even held hands. I feel like I’m also around MTN even tho I’ve only been rated on the mogwart server but it’s all TikTok braindeads on there but I’m not sure. Maybe i just have a massive ego because some days I feel like I’m so good looking just for the next day to feel like I’m the ugliest man on earth. Also I can tell myself that their opinions don’t matter but deep down all day I just be fixing my posture and even asking myself if I’m walking correctly just because I feel like every girl I walk past is watching me. Idk how to explain it but I feel Like every girl is in love with me. Even tho I’m mid mtn at best. I feel like such a complicated person with no one that’s like me enough to understand me. I have so many things that I want to fix about myself but I also have 0 will to do it because I’m a lazy bum
Dude do not even worry, I am not even lying one bit. Everything you have said was literally me for a minute. It’s the fact that you see girls everyday since you’re in school. Once you get out those feelings will calm down so much, you have no idea man. I would get a new crush every week and basically stalk them because I decided that it was fate. After high school and not being around girls that much I only realized that girls are genuinely weird. They are the ones with a big ego. There is a saying about tending to your garden so you attract butterflies, you dont chase the butterflies yourself. Read the book, how to win friends and influence people. It’ll teach you how to talk to people way better and also read the book The Way of the Superior Man. The first one will teach you how to talk to people, you might think you’re already good at it and you might be but this will help you get that much further. The second one is important because you need to know how to be a proper man. Both of those combined legit taught me how to be low inhib to everyone. It will pass bro dont worry.
 
Dude do not even worry, I am not even lying one bit. Everything you have said was literally me for a minute. It’s the fact that you see girls everyday since you’re in school. Once you get out those feelings will calm down so much, you have no idea man. I would get a new crush every week and basically stalk them because I decided that it was fate. After high school and not being around girls that much I only realized that girls are genuinely weird. They are the ones with a big ego. There is a saying about tending to your garden so you attract butterflies, you dont chase the butterflies yourself. Read the book, how to win friends and influence people. It’ll teach you how to talk to people way better and also read the book The Way of the Superior Man. The first one will teach you how to talk to people, you might think you’re already good at it and you might be but this will help you get that much further. The second one is important because you need to know how to be a proper man. Both of those combined legit taught me how to be low inhib to everyone. It will pass bro dont worry.
Ok I’ll try to get my hands on those books thank you 🙏
 
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Ok I’ll try to get my hands on those books thank you 🙏
Of course man, I say buy the paper copy’s because you will be way more inclined to reading them. The superior man book is a very easy read, the winning friends book is longer and a tiny bit harder but you will see a big change by the time you’re done with a quarter of the book. What I did was I read only one or two chapters a day and then I forced myself to go out, meet new people and apply what I learned to them. Good luck dude I hope everything gets better for you
 
Of course man, I say buy the paper copy’s because you will be way more inclined to reading them. The superior man book is a very easy read, the winning friends book is longer and a tiny bit harder but you will see a big change by the time you’re done with a quarter of the book. What I did was I read only one or two chapters a day and then I forced myself to go out, meet new people and apply what I learned to them. Good luck dude I hope everything gets better for you
something I struggle with is the fact that I’m really lazy. Even when my friends try to invite me to do things if it doesn’t include alcohol or any other substances I tend to make up excuses just to stay home and get fried all day rotting in my bed. For exemple today my friends wanted to go see a movie but I made up the fact that I had work that day even tho I only had a morning shift. Sometime I try to motivate myself to become better overall but like 5 days later and I’m back to being a lazy bum. Any suggestions ?
 
I grew up unattractive, and throughout my childhood, I didn’t have any real conversations with girls. I never had female friends or felt comfortable around them. In high school, I started hanging out with a few girls ( after I had a small glow up), but it was mostly in group settings at parties with my guy friends. Even when some of them tried to connect with me one-on-one, I’d dodge the interaction. I struggled with eye contact, didn’t know what to say, and often felt like I had nothing meaningful to contribute. Now that I’m about to start college, I really want to change this. I want to be able to have genuine conversations, build real connections, and eventually find a girlfriend. But I feel like I’ve developed a habit of unintentionally pushing people away. Any advices ? Sorry if this is a corny first post
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something I struggle with is the fact that I’m really lazy. Even when my friends try to invite me to do things if it doesn’t include alcohol or any other substances I tend to make up excuses just to stay home and get fried all day rotting in my bed. For exemple today my friends wanted to go see a movie but I made up the fact that I had work that day even tho I only had a morning shift. Sometime I try to motivate myself to become better overall but like 5 days later and I’m back to being a lazy bum. Any suggestions ?
I am somewhat like that, used to be way worse. Well it’s important to make a routine because it’s easier to drop a routine from the beginning than when you’re already a month into it. I blame this on school basically ending for most and summer coming up, I am the same for my college classes but if it’s not because of school and you have been like that for a few years I would probably say it’s low test. Also maybe you just don’t enjoy being around them, something I noticed is most of the time when I get invited somewhere I dont want To go but when I really thought about it, it’s because I just genuinely didn’t like them. It led to me to not have any friends groups anymore but I enjoy the company with the few people I like way more and it taught me to not put others feelings above mine
 
I am somewhat like that, used to be way worse. Well it’s important to make a routine because it’s easier to drop a routine from the beginning than when you’re already a month into it. I blame this on school basically ending for most and summer coming up, I am the same for my college classes but if it’s not because of school and you have been like that for a few years I would probably say it’s low test. Also maybe you just don’t enjoy being around them, something I noticed is most of the time when I get invited somewhere I dont want To go but when I really thought about it, it’s because I just genuinely didn’t like them. It led to me to not have any friends groups anymore but I enjoy the company with the few people I like way more and it taught me to not put others feelings above mine
My life rn is school then go home then go to bed at 6-7pm then repeat until weekend where I work and rot in bed unless I have parties.
 
Problem is even if I tell myself this I tend to fall in love with any girls that jus looks at me too long because of the fact I’ve never kissed hugged or even held hands. I feel like I’m also around MTN even tho I’ve only been rated on the mogwart server but it’s all TikTok braindeads on there but I’m not sure. Maybe i just have a massive ego because some days I feel like I’m so good looking just for the next day to feel like I’m the ugliest man on earth. Also I can tell myself that their opinions don’t matter but deep down all day I just be fixing my posture and even asking myself if I’m walking correctly just because I feel like every girl I walk past is watching me. Idk how to explain it but I feel Like every girl is in love with me. Even tho I’m mid mtn at best. I feel like such a complicated person with no one that’s like me enough to understand me. I have so many things that I want to fix about myself but I also have 0 will to do it because I’m a lazy bum
Don't even ask mogwarts for ratings because they suck at it
 
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