I'm almost 28 and desperate. Torn between three countries

[Messier 4]

Quick introduction: I've been lurking on this forum since 2021. I've since been blackpilled. I know lookism is true.

Ok. This is going to be a longish post that I feel I need to make right before I decide over something that will greatly impact my life, in a way that I may or may not regret it ten or more years from now. I will first give some background in a honest and vulnerable way.
I know some of you will find this post cringe, but I'm desperate and have nowhere else to be this open and exposed anonymously.

OK. I'm a 27M soon to be 28, and I sadly say that I lost my 20s till now, with anxiety, depression and despair being ever so present, preventing me from even starting college, making any friendships or getting a girl(I'm still a virgin). I actually spent 99% of the time inside my house in all those years since high school. I feel great fear of hitting the big 30 two years from now, when adults will think I need to carry the weight of the world like they do and teenagers and young people up until the age of 25 will stop seen me as young.
I feel like the world TRIES to make you happy if you are <25. At that age range, the world gives itself to you for your happiness. Then when you hit 30+, you need to give everything you have to be happy.

Some may already be picturing an overweight neckbeard with autism(not really judging), but I went to a psychiatrist and the doctor found no neurological issue, although he obviously said I had depression. Nobody that saw me ever said I look past 19, and they get very surprised when I tell them my real age, making me feel even more empty inside for having lost all those years, like I was in a coma. I can go to a high school right now and blend in really easily. Both my parents always looked ten years younger than their actual age, so I got this from them.

With so much free time, I spent countless hours thinking about life, trying to figure its meaning, and this was one reason why I never got the ship going. I felt I had to first find life's meaning in order to start living it, but the more I thought the more I got confused.
The semesters went by, and my doubts about life just kept adding up, while whatever touch on solid paths I had in high school just never happened again. Social media was another reason for this mess, as it make me feel guilty by not having what I saw on it.
I went from wanting to live a different and more exciting life in western europe, then east asia, then eastern europe, then back to western europe, then latin america, then east asia again... this is ridiculous, but I was always in a loop and always got back at previous left behind desires.

I lost my religious faith after going through some extreme depression phase in 2016, got back at it again after discovering Jordan Peterson, then became an atheist again, then a catholic phase and finally an agnostic. Yes, I'm a ridiculous flip flopper.

Now I don't know what to do. After countless hours thinking about what I should do with my stupid garbage life, I came to two choices: finally go to college and start my life in Russia or in China. Why? Because I figure those are the best places to find the girlfriend I never had and they offer college scholarships(sorry if I'm being blunt and non inspiring in my writing).
Why not do it in the US? Because I simply want to leave this place that is hopeless for me. I'll probably come back to the US and stay forever after college though, since I still want to be close to my family and spend time with them. My mother is close to being 60 and I fear not being there if she needs me when the old age issues start to appear.

So what should I do?

Russia is closer to my country in culture, it's easier to make friends in it and the women are prettier and I'm simply more used to liking white girls. I grew up desiring white girls. In fact, my first crush was with a white girl whose face resembled Scarlett Johansson as a little girl(it was in middle school).

The issue though is that white women age the worst. After maybe about the age of 25, they start to look masculine, wrinkled or their faces start to drop, making them look about 7-10 years older than they are.

From this:

To this:

In a span of 8 to 10 years.



I want a 18 yo girl, so the expiration date for her youth would be about 7 years until she looks past 25.
I'm very afraid of the passage of time, and wanted to get a woman that would make me feel young for as long as possible.



China on the other hand is a much more alien country and this has its positives and negatives. Chinese culture is way more novel and interesting than russian culture, and China is definely the more developed country. On the other hand, I'd really look out of place and not be seen as part of their group even if I spoke fluent chinese, making it almost impossible to build deep friendships while there, even if I'll only stay until graduation.
I also have difficulty connecting China, its culture and its people, with what I've known so far in life and with my family. It just feels off getting a girl from a place so different than my culture and all the people I know.
But China has chinese women, and asian women in general age much better. My girlfriend could be 30 and still looking 20, thus extending my ability to feel connected with youth for about a decade more than if I had a white woman.

They go from this:

To:

Also in a span of 8-10 years.

But there's a third choice. I can stay in this country, and I feel like this would give me the opportunity to be as close to my family as possible. After wasting ten years of my life, I missed my little cousins growing up, lost close family members and missed almost all the opportunities I had of experiencing life beyond my computer's screen. Now I feel an immense doubt as to whether I should even move to another city in my state, let alone to the other side of the planet, and not be there day by day with my family, for four years.

Please, offer your insights so I can make a decision. I cried 5 days in a roll now and fear that I'll waste another year for not starting something now. Then I'll be 29 and feel no motivation anymore, since I'll be one year from being 30.

 

[laworg]

Good read

 

[IHATEINDIANS]

poland

 

[BeanCelll]

Quick introduction: I've been lurking on this forum since 2021. I've since been blackpilled. I know lookism is true.

Ok. This is going to be a longish post that I feel I need to make right before I decide over something that will greatly impact my life, in a way that I may or may not regret it ten or more years from now. I will first give some background in a honest and vulnerable way.
I know some of you will find this post cringe, but I'm desperate and have nowhere else to be this open and exposed anonymously.

OK. I'm a 27M soon to be 28, and I sadly say that I lost my 20s till now, with anxiety, depression and despair being ever so present, preventing me from even starting college, making any friendships or getting a girl(I'm still a virgin). I actually spent 99% of the time inside my house in all those years since high school. I feel great fear of hitting the big 30 two years from now, when adults will think I need to carry the weight of the world like they do and teenagers and young people up until the age of 25 will stop seen me as young.
I feel like the world TRIES to make you happy if you are <25. At that age range, the world gives itself to you for your happiness. Then when you hit 30+, you need to give everything you have to be happy.

View attachment 3922843

Some may already be picturing an overweight neckbeard with autism(not really judging), but I went to a psychiatrist and the doctor found no neurological issue, although he obviously said I had depression. Nobody that saw me ever said I look past 19, and they get very surprised when I tell them my real age, making me feel even more empty inside for having lost all those years, like I was in a coma. I can go to a high school right now and blend in really easily. Both my parents always looked ten years younger than their actual age, so I got this from them.

With so much free time, I spent countless hours thinking about life, trying to figure its meaning, and this was one reason why I never got the ship going. I felt I had to first find life's meaning in order to start living it, but the more I thought the more I got confused.
The semesters went by, and my doubts about life just kept adding up, while whatever touch on solid paths I had in high school just never happened again. Social media was another reason for this mess, as it make me feel guilty by not having what I saw on it.
I went from wanting to live a different and more exciting life in western europe, then east asia, then eastern europe, then back to western europe, then latin america, then east asia again... this is ridiculous, but I was always in a loop and always got back at previous left behind desires.

View attachment 3922883

I lost my religious faith after going through some extreme depression phase in 2016, got back at it again after discovering Jordan Peterson, then became an atheist again, then a catholic phase and finally an agnostic. Yes, I'm a ridiculous flip flopper.

Now I don't know what to do. After countless hours thinking about what I should do with my stupid garbage life, I came to two choices: finally go to college and start my life in Russia or in China. Why? Because I figure those are the best places to find the girlfriend I never had and they offer college scholarships(sorry if I'm being blunt and non inspiring in my writing).
Why not do it in the US? Because I simply want to leave this place that is hopeless for me. I'll probably come back to the US and stay forever after college though, since I still want to be close to my family and spend time with them. My mother is close to being 60 and I fear not being there if she needs me when the old age issues start to appear.

So what should I do?

Russia is closer to my country in culture, it's easier to make friends in it and the women are prettier and I'm simply more used to liking white girls. I grew up desiring white girls. In fact, my first crush was with a white girl whose face resembled Scarlett Johansson as a little girl(it was in middle school).

The issue though is that white women age the worst. After maybe about the age of 25, they start to look masculine, wrinkled or their faces start to drop, making them look about 7-10 years older than they are.

From this:

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To this:

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In a span of 8 to 10 years.



I want a 18 yo girl, so the expiration date for her youth would be about 7 years until she looks past 25.
I'm very afraid of the passage of time, and wanted to get a woman that would make me feel young for as long as possible.



China on the other hand is a much more alien country and this has its positives and negatives. Chinese culture is way more novel and interesting than russian culture, and China is definely the more developed country. On the other hand, I'd really look out of place and not be seen as part of their group even if I spoke fluent chinese, making it almost impossible to build deep friendships while there, even if I'll only stay until graduation.
I also have difficulty connecting China, its culture and its people, with what I've known so far in life and with my family. It just feels off getting a girl from a place so different than my culture and all the people I know.
But China has chinese women, and asian women in general age much better. My girlfriend could be 30 and still looking 20, thus extending my ability to feel connected with youth for about a decade more than if I had a white woman.

They go from this:

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To:

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Also in a span of 8-10 years.

But there's a third choice. I can stay in this country, and I feel like this would give me the opportunity to be as close to my family as possible. After wasting ten years of my life, I missed my little cousins growing up, lost close family members and missed almost all the opportunities I had of experiencing life beyond my computer's screen. Now I feel an immense doubt as to whether I should even move to another city in my state, let alone to the other side of the planet, and not be there day by day with my family, for four years.

Please, offer your insights so I can make a decision. I cried 5 days in a roll now and fear that I'll waste another year for not starting something now. Then I'll be 29 and feel no motivation anymore, since I'll be one year from being 30.

Solid read
You gotta choose asap,every passing day seems to cripple your sense of youth even further; also you're gonna need a shit ton of $ to maintain the lifestyle you want particularly the 18 year old. I wouldn't go into this expedition expecting a lovey-dovey relationship either since from what I can tell you have minimal to no experience. Not that it can't happen but we don't want complete delusion either. The best advice I can offer is stay level-headed and realistic.

Russia sounds cool but I'm pretty sure most of the chicks left/migrated elsewhere for obvious fucking reasons.

China is fine but dating seems nearly purely transaction and extremely hypergamous (it's like this everywhere but it's amplified even further)

U.S might be the most convenient but it sounds like you really want to leave, but you're just being restricted by things outside your control.

I wouldn't go expecting any severe improvement in mental stability solely because you moved though it might help for short-term results the long-term stability is the shit you need to strive for.

Best of luck in your future endeavors.

 

[JesusSavedMe]

Quick introduction: I've been lurking on this forum since 2021. I've since been blackpilled. I know lookism is true.

Ok. This is going to be a longish post that I feel I need to make right before I decide over something that will greatly impact my life, in a way that I may or may not regret it ten or more years from now. I will first give some background in a honest and vulnerable way.
I know some of you will find this post cringe, but I'm desperate and have nowhere else to be this open and exposed anonymously.

OK. I'm a 27M soon to be 28, and I sadly say that I lost my 20s till now, with anxiety, depression and despair being ever so present, preventing me from even starting college, making any friendships or getting a girl(I'm still a virgin). I actually spent 99% of the time inside my house in all those years since high school. I feel great fear of hitting the big 30 two years from now, when adults will think I need to carry the weight of the world like they do and teenagers and young people up until the age of 25 will stop seen me as young.
I feel like the world TRIES to make you happy if you are <25. At that age range, the world gives itself to you for your happiness. Then when you hit 30+, you need to give everything you have to be happy.

View attachment 3922843

Some may already be picturing an overweight neckbeard with autism(not really judging), but I went to a psychiatrist and the doctor found no neurological issue, although he obviously said I had depression. Nobody that saw me ever said I look past 19, and they get very surprised when I tell them my real age, making me feel even more empty inside for having lost all those years, like I was in a coma. I can go to a high school right now and blend in really easily. Both my parents always looked ten years younger than their actual age, so I got this from them.

With so much free time, I spent countless hours thinking about life, trying to figure its meaning, and this was one reason why I never got the ship going. I felt I had to first find life's meaning in order to start living it, but the more I thought the more I got confused.
The semesters went by, and my doubts about life just kept adding up, while whatever touch on solid paths I had in high school just never happened again. Social media was another reason for this mess, as it make me feel guilty by not having what I saw on it.
I went from wanting to live a different and more exciting life in western europe, then east asia, then eastern europe, then back to western europe, then latin america, then east asia again... this is ridiculous, but I was always in a loop and always got back at previous left behind desires.

View attachment 3922883

I lost my religious faith after going through some extreme depression phase in 2016, got back at it again after discovering Jordan Peterson, then became an atheist again, then a catholic phase and finally an agnostic. Yes, I'm a ridiculous flip flopper.

Now I don't know what to do. After countless hours thinking about what I should do with my stupid garbage life, I came to two choices: finally go to college and start my life in Russia or in China. Why? Because I figure those are the best places to find the girlfriend I never had and they offer college scholarships(sorry if I'm being blunt and non inspiring in my writing).
Why not do it in the US? Because I simply want to leave this place that is hopeless for me. I'll probably come back to the US and stay forever after college though, since I still want to be close to my family and spend time with them. My mother is close to being 60 and I fear not being there if she needs me when the old age issues start to appear.

So what should I do?

Russia is closer to my country in culture, it's easier to make friends in it and the women are prettier and I'm simply more used to liking white girls. I grew up desiring white girls. In fact, my first crush was with a white girl whose face resembled Scarlett Johansson as a little girl(it was in middle school).

The issue though is that white women age the worst. After maybe about the age of 25, they start to look masculine, wrinkled or their faces start to drop, making them look about 7-10 years older than they are.

From this:

View attachment 3922920

View attachment 3922923

View attachment 3922929

View attachment 3922930

To this:

View attachment 3922938

View attachment 3922990

View attachment 3922991

View attachment 3922993

In a span of 8 to 10 years.



I want a 18 yo girl, so the expiration date for her youth would be about 7 years until she looks past 25.
I'm very afraid of the passage of time, and wanted to get a woman that would make me feel young for as long as possible.



China on the other hand is a much more alien country and this has its positives and negatives. Chinese culture is way more novel and interesting than russian culture, and China is definely the more developed country. On the other hand, I'd really look out of place and not be seen as part of their group even if I spoke fluent chinese, making it almost impossible to build deep friendships while there, even if I'll only stay until graduation.
I also have difficulty connecting China, its culture and its people, with what I've known so far in life and with my family. It just feels off getting a girl from a place so different than my culture and all the people I know.
But China has chinese women, and asian women in general age much better. My girlfriend could be 30 and still looking 20, thus extending my ability to feel connected with youth for about a decade more than if I had a white woman.

They go from this:

View attachment 3923002

View attachment 3922999

View attachment 3923000

To:

View attachment 3923001

View attachment 3923004

View attachment 3923005

Also in a span of 8-10 years.

But there's a third choice. I can stay in this country, and I feel like this would give me the opportunity to be as close to my family as possible. After wasting ten years of my life, I missed my little cousins growing up, lost close family members and missed almost all the opportunities I had of experiencing life beyond my computer's screen. Now I feel an immense doubt as to whether I should even move to another city in my state, let alone to the other side of the planet, and not be there day by day with my family, for four years.

Please, offer your insights so I can make a decision. I cried 5 days in a roll now and fear that I'll waste another year for not starting something now. Then I'll be 29 and feel no motivation anymore, since I'll be one year from being 30.

Beggars can't be choosers

 

[5'8 ltn]

im taking the time to wright all this because you seem vaguely similar to myself, except much older, and have simmer plans etc. will try to cover lookxmaxing, geomaxing, and mental health for your situation here.

bro just go.

Ik how bad it its to be stuck in the mental masturbation, overthinking, procrastination trap its horrible.

Location

China is the move. very cheap country, lots and lots of women, not to many western chads. don't expect an insane Chinese Stacy's like the ones you posted though, they have lots of surgery and skin bleaching and makeup and photoshop. Women fraud so hard.

for realistic expectations look at walking vids in tier 2-3 cities for ex


tier 2-4 citys will have way less competition

Money

Now you need money. you can ether get a online job in your home country, and work while away, or get a job in china, or work away and come back for most of the year

Online job, idk entry level stuff if you have no skills, data entry, call centers, etc

TEFL (teaching English or other language) is easiest in country, if they ask for certs etc just lie, they dont aculy care of you have a collage degree, they are mostly day care centers kids parents put them in English schools and they dont learn JFL look at the reddit threads on china TEFL, it has gotten worse in the last 5-10 years.

You could do something seasonal like a job in the us etc if you can get visa idk or are from here, work at fishery etc in Alaska for the summer, go back to China/etc with 10-30k.

Business/contract work: drop shipping, graphic design, marketing, etc, you could have no skills and pay an indian to do it, just being a middle man and pretending you do it you know?

Physical

east asian standards for face are very close to the avg white guy. high nose bridge, light skin, taller, larger eyes, pointy chin, projected nose, etc.

you will need some things to look younger, you can even fraud your age on apps or irl, say your 22 or something. at this age your skin/collagen effects the age you look alot.

• tca peel ($30) will burn off the top layer of your skin, smoothing it out, etc

• tret ($10) to keep the skin nice. increases collagen synthesis, removes wrinkles, gold standard anti ageing

• hydroquinone ($10) gold standard for hyperpigmentation, use it to bleach your skin a bit. dont use for more than 2 months. start using it befor you go, have your skin bleached a bit when you take pics for OLD

• test e or c, 250-500mg a week ($10-20 a week, less than most girls stend on coffee)

• maybe bleach your hair and or blue/green contacts, if your white

• clean shaven probably

• dye your brows black

Mental

for the mental aspect, meds could help. the test will increase confincence, self esteem, motivation, etc, but if you need more, something like a gabalergic (pregabalin, gabapentin, phenibut, benzos) or a MAOI could help. SSRI/SNRIs can help, but many people have permanent negative effects so i would stay away.

it seems like you have chronic reward/motivation issues, so bromantane could help a lot. It increases dopamine and gaba. 30mg/kg after 5 days "fully reversed stress-induced psychomotor slowing and “learned helplessness” in rats

in other words, it should help you stop rotting and make you want to get out there.

it also fixed my sleep schedule/chronic insomnia

great thread on it here https://looksmax.org/threads/bromantane.1426324/


TLDR;
just read it buddy
take bromantane, skinmax, save some money, move to china, slay

rep me pls

 

[Messier 4]

Solid read
You gotta choose asap,every passing day seems to cripple your sense of youth even further; also you're gonna need a shit ton of $ to maintain the lifestyle you want particularly the 18 year old. I wouldn't go into this expedition expecting a lovey-dovey relationship either since from what I can tell you have minimal to no experience. Not that it can't happen but we don't want complete delusion either. The best advice I can offer is stay level-headed and realistic.

Russia sounds cool but I'm pretty sure most of the chicks left/migrated elsewhere for obvious fucking reasons.

China is fine but dating seems nearly purely transaction and extremely hypergamous (it's like this everywhere but it's amplified even further)

U.S might be the most convenient but it sounds like you really want to leave, but you're just being restricted by things outside your control.

I wouldn't go expecting any severe improvement in mental stability solely because you moved though it might help for short-term results the long-term stability is the shit you need to strive for.

Best of luck in your future endeavors.

"You gotta choose asap,every passing day seems to cripple your sense of youth even further"
Yes, that's very true. I also have some deadlines to meet if I want to go to either country(for college) and this is one of the most anxious times in my life.

"I wouldn't go expecting any severe improvement in mental stability solely because you moved though it might help for short-term results the long-term stability is the shit you need to strive for."
This is what is killing me as I don't know if I either:

1. Choose what satisfies me more for the next 7 years(getting an 18 yo white princess), but maybe regret it later when she doesn't look young and feminine anymore
2. Get the best looking 18 yo chinese girl that I can find, who's probably not more than a htb without makeup(I know they fraud hard), who will be looking 25, 17 years(!) from now. I'll be 45 by then, when she finally doesn't look so young anymore. But then I'll never get the dream white girl that I always wanted.
3. Stay here and not get anything more than a ltb white girl(or a ltb asian girl if I go to college here), but then not enjoy while I'm still "young" and go get the girl I want and fulfill my desire to live in a different country

 

[Messier 4]

im taking the time to wright all this because you seem vaguely similar to myself, except much older, and have simmer plans etc. will try to cover lookxmaxing, geomaxing, and mental health for your situation here.

bro just go.

Ik how bad it its to be stuck in the mental masturbation, overthinking, procrastination trap its horrible.

Location

China is the move. very cheap country, lots and lots of women, not to many western chads. don't expect an insane Chinese Stacy's like the ones you posted though, they have lots of surgery and skin bleaching and makeup and photoshop. Women fraud so hard.

for realistic expectations look at walking vids in tier 2-3 cities for ex


tier 2-4 citys will have way less competition

Money

Now you need money. you can ether get a online job in your home country, and work while away, or get a job in china, or work away and come back for most of the year

Online job, idk entry level stuff if you have no skills, data entry, call centers, etc

TEFL (teaching English or other language) is easiest in country, if they ask for certs etc just lie, they dont aculy care of you have a collage degree, they are mostly day care centers kids parents put them in English schools and they dont learn JFL look at the reddit threads on china TEFL, it has gotten worse in the last 5-10 years.

You could do something seasonal like a job in the us etc if you can get visa idk or are from here, work at fishery etc in Alaska for the summer, go back to China/etc with 10-30k.

Business/contract work: drop shipping, graphic design, marketing, etc, you could have no skills and pay an indian to do it, just being a middle man and pretending you do it you know?

Physical

east asian standards for face are very close to the avg white guy. high nose bridge, light skin, taller, larger eyes, pointy chin, projected nose, etc.

you will need some things to look younger, you can even fraud your age on apps or irl, say your 22 or something. at this age your skin/collagen effects the age you look alot.

• tca peel ($30) will burn off the top layer of your skin, smoothing it out, etc

• tret ($10) to keep the skin nice. increases collagen synthesis, removes wrinkles, gold standard anti ageing

• hydroquinone ($10) gold standard for hyperpigmentation, use it to bleach your skin a bit. dont use for more than 2 months. start using it befor you go, have your skin bleached a bit when you take pics for OLD

• test e or c, 250-500mg a week ($10-20 a week, less than most girls stend on coffee)

• maybe bleach your hair and or blue/green contacts, if your white

• clean shaven probably

• dye your brows black

Mental

for the mental aspect, meds could help. the test will increase confincence, self esteem, motivation, etc, but if you need more, something like a gabalergic (pregabalin, gabapentin, phenibut, benzos) or a MAOI could help. SSRI/SNRIs can help, but many people have permanent negative effects so i would stay away.

it seems like you have chronic reward/motivation issues, so bromantane could help a lot. It increases dopamine and gaba. 30mg/kg after 5 days "fully reversed stress-induced psychomotor slowing and “learned helplessness” in rats

in other words, it should help you stop rotting and make you want to get out there.

it also fixed my sleep schedule/chronic insomnia

great thread on it here https://looksmax.org/threads/bromantane.1426324/


TLDR;
just read it buddy
take bromantane, skinmax, save some money, move to china, slay

rep me pls

If only asian women could look so amazing like Cherie Lorraine(an asmr girl) or teen Nicola Peltz...

White girls are at the top of the world, and getting one would be like "I won in life". Asian women feel like plan B, lesser, what remained after the best was over etc.

I know I'd be 3x more attractive in China than here, but I also find asian girls 3x less attractive than white women, even if they're of the "same" rating.

I don't want to just slay. I can't afford losing any more years without a girl that'll really be there for me and give me kids.

If I was looking for ons, China would be by far the easiest place for that.

Now, asian genes making women extend their teenage looks for two decades? That's very hard for me to ignore, even if I'll never get one that looks so "colourful" as a white woman.

 

[BeanCelll]

"You gotta choose asap,every passing day seems to cripple your sense of youth even further"
Yes, that's very true. I also have some deadlines to meet if I want to go to either country(for college) and this is one of the most anxious times in my life.

"I wouldn't go expecting any severe improvement in mental stability solely because you moved though it might help for short-term results the long-term stability is the shit you need to strive for."
This is what is killing me as I don't know if I either:

1. Choose what satisfies me more for the next 7 years(getting an 18 yo white princess), but maybe regret it later when she doesn't look young and feminine anymore
2. Get the best looking 18 yo chinese girl that I can find, who's probably not more than a htb without makeup(I know they fraud hard), who will be looking 25, 17 years(!) from now. I'll be 45 by then, when she finally doesn't look so young anymore. But then I'll never get the dream white girl that I always wanted.
3. Stay here and not get anything more than a ltb white girl(or a ltb asian girl if I go to college here), but then not enjoy while I'm still "young" and go get the girl I want and fulfill my desire to live in a different country

1 and 2 is entirely on you but I'd disregard 3 entirely atp it just sounds like it'll further your depressive state and I don't think any relationship in that scenario would fulfill you.

 

[5'8 ltn]

If only asian women could look so amazing like Cherie Lorraine(an asmr girl) or teen Nicola Peltz...

White girls are at the top of the world, and getting one would be like "I won in life". Asian women feel like plan B, lesser, what remained after the best was over etc.

I know I'd be 3x more attractive in China than here, but I also find asian girls 3x less attractive than white women, even if they're of the "same" rating.

I don't want to just slay. I can't afford losing any more years without a girl that'll really be there for me and give me kids.

If I was looking for ons, China would be by far the easiest place for that.

Now, asian genes making women extend their teenage looks for two decades? That's very hard for me to ignore, even if I'll never get one that looks so "colourful" as a white woman.

take a week trip to both Russia and China then.

The big thing here is that you are mentally mastrabating and have done nothing for the last decade, you might be better off slaying for a year and then settling down, as of right now you have basically no expertise with women, why should they pick you? especially in Russia, you have no degree, no skills, i assume avg looking/Hight or below. im honestly not a big fan of geomaxing to find a wife but if you plan on staying there its fine imo.

have you thought of south America? a white guy would do fine or well there, even a short guy in the west would hightmog unless in rich areas. lot more resources/ease to learn Spanish as well, and plenty of white or white against girls.

Obviously not a ghetto country like Venezuela or el Salvador but something like Argentina or peru could be good.

you really need to take stock in what i said and what's on this website and improve looks and mentality though

Ask yourself, why should a girl like me? what do i provide? looks? money? etc etc. and figure out what to improve in.

the advice i gave is tailored to asia but works for everywhere else exept maybe the hydroquinone, it seems like your mental state really needs to improve and change, rotting on this site or others might give you info but its worthless if you refuse to get off your ass.

thats why i mentioned stuff to help motivation, if your depressed, rotting, etc ik its hard to get, test, bromantane, etc can rlly help that. tons of studies and anecdotal reports.

 

[SeiGun]

choose the one that will give you superior experience

 

[Messier 4]

1 and 2 is entirely on you but I'd disregard 3 entirely atp it just sounds like it'll further your depressive state and I don't think any relationship in that scenario would fulfill you.

"1 and 2 is entirely on you"

If I could choose one superpower, it would be omniscience. There's nothing I desire more than to know what to do, when to do and how to do it, who it would affect and to what extent, how will I feel if I choose path A, B, C, D, E etc, how will 60 yo me feel about it when looking back in life...
I have so many regrets in life and now I'm almost 28. I simply can't afford to make any more mistakes, but it seems I'll be 30 and still not have chosen anything, or realise by then that I made the wrong choice.

"I'd disregard 3 entirely atp it just sounds like it'll further your depressive state and I don't think any relationship in that scenario would fulfill you."

I keep thinking if I get a foreign girl, how disconnected from my family and culture it will be, giving me great cognitive dissonance, almost making me schizophrenic. But in this country I'm just another guy living in the same hopeless place as I've been for almost 28 years.

What I want to get at is that for every good argument that I myself come up with or get it from other people, there's a counter argument that is just as good. It's a loop in my head that's been going on for ten years.

 

[Messier 4]

take a week trip to both Russia and China then.

The big thing here is that you are mentally mastrabating and have done nothing for the last decade, you might be better off slaying for a year and then settling down, as of right now you have basically no expertise with women, why should they pick you? especially in Russia, you have no degree, no skills, i assume avg looking/Hight or below. im honestly not a big fan of geomaxing to find a wife but if you plan on staying there its fine imo.

have you thought of south America? a white guy would do fine or well there, even a short guy in the west would hightmog unless in rich areas. lot more resources/ease to learn Spanish as well, and plenty of white or white against girls.

Obviously not a ghetto country like Venezuela or el Salvador but something like Argentina or peru could be good.

you really need to take stock in what i said and what's on this website and improve looks and mentality though

Ask yourself, why should a girl like me? what do i provide? looks? money? etc etc. and figure out what to improve in.

the advice i gave is tailored to asia but works for everywhere else exept maybe the hydroquinone, it seems like your mental state really needs to improve and change, rotting on this site or others might give you info but its worthless if you refuse to get off your ass.

thats why i mentioned stuff to help motivation, if your depressed, rotting, etc ik its hard to get, test, bromantane, etc can rlly help that. tons of studies and anecdotal reports.

"take a week trip to both Russia and China then."

Back in december 2024, I literally thought "I'll go test how things are with girls and see if I like the culture. One month in China, then Russia, then Japan, then Bulgaria then finally one month stay in Romania." Now it's almost over. College applications are closing and lectures start in september. I must decide where I'll stay for the next four years and have to rely on everything that I've been reading about those countries on sites like reddit, 4chan, youtube, Roosh V forum, incel.is, geomax.me and lookism.org.

"you might be better off slaying for a year and then settling down, as of right now you have basically no expertise with women, why should they pick you?"
I must find the right girl that I'll marry at the age of 28. She will still be a teen, and the age gap will be 9-10 years. What difference does it make if I do anything at 29 and not 28? At 29, each of the 365 days until the big 30 will feel like a nightmare if I have not yet made great progress in my life.

"thats why i mentioned stuff to help motivation, if your depressed, rotting, etc ik its hard to get, test, bromantane, etc can rlly help that. tons of studies and anecdotal reports."

I'll probably buy a few that you posted and see what happens, but I only have about a week to decide what to do. If I make a mistake, it will be over.

 

[Messier 4]

choose the one that will give you superior experience

For now or for the future?

 

[5'8 ltn]

"take a week trip to both Russia and China then."

Back in december 2024, I literally thought "I'll go test how things are with girls and see if I like the culture. One month in China, then Russia, then Japan, then Bulgaria then finally one month stay in Romania." Now it's almost over. College applications are closing and lectures start in september. I must decide where I'll stay for the next four years and have to rely on everything that I've been reading about those countries on sites like reddit, 4chan, youtube, Roosh V forum, incel.is, geomax.me and lookism.org.

"you might be better off slaying for a year and then settling down, as of right now you have basically no expertise with women, why should they pick you?"
I must find the right girl that I'll marry at the age of 28. She will still be a teen, and the age gap will be 9-10 years. What difference does it make if I do anything at 29 and not 28? At 29, each of the 365 days until the big 30 will feel like a nightmare if I have not yet made great progress in my life.

"thats why i mentioned stuff to help motivation, if your depressed, rotting, etc ik its hard to get, test, bromantane, etc can rlly help that. tons of studies and anecdotal reports."

I'll probably buy a few that you posted and see what happens, but I only have about a week to decide what to do. If I make a mistake, it will be over.

you can get scholarship for free school in china at least if ur from most countries, you dont HAVE to stay 4 years, you could just do one.

you seem to be very absolutist which seems to be a very common trait among ppl considering geomaxing, like be realistic, why would a 18yo girl want some 30yo western rotter. Unless you have some redeeming trait (income, looks, status, skill) you wont get a stacy. especially in eastern europe, the days of mid western guys getting stacys where only in the post soviet union days like md 90s when everyone was super poor and desperate to get out.

Both country's have a high culture of depression, etc, caused by social culture, work culture, climate. bear that in mind. you seem to already have that and moving could possibly make it worse.

and will you really be different? you might end up rotting in foreign uni for 4 years and regretting your wasted time again. If you want this to work (which it can) you really need to change your personality/mentality and maybe looks. pharmaceuticals make that easier, as well as being in a new culture (autistic/bad mental/behavioral traits will be played off/seen as cultural differences).

There's a reason they call geomaxers "LBH" losers back home. its kinda known now that if you go abroad you probably have something wrong with you. Ofc exotic halo can overcome that, but a white guy isn't exactly exotic in russia.

An 18yo girl won't look meaningfully different than a 23yo, but if you want the impressionability/pristineness i get that.

ultimately you need to make a decision for yourself, you seem set on russia because of white girls but if you cant pull at home what makes you think you will be able to pull in russia? you wont know the language, you wont rlly have exotic halo, ppl might even avoid you because your western and they dont want law issues, etc.

i think you are majorly inflating russia as a choice, making MASSIVE assumptions about either option (that things will quickly fall into place the second you get their (if they haven't in the last decade at home, why will they now?)) assuming that you will get a white stacy jfl. pull a ltb and then you can think about pulling a mtb, then htb, and so on.

im not trying to be a pessimist, just a realist. take stock in what me and geomaxers say, dont blindly expect virgin stacy when you cant even speak her language jfl

 

[SeiGun]

For now or for the future?

now, future you can just move again

 

[SoNotFunny]

Can't say much for Russia, but I've been to China before. First things first, finding a woman will be far easier if you are a foreigner. You will need a keen eye for spotting naturally beautiful women as many of them go heavy on the makeup and filters. Living expenses are hella nice, everything is cheap. You can buy 5 USD meals and public transport is less than 1 USD. China is a vast country and is very well connected through roads and rail systems, so you can easily travel from one place to another (and for cheap too). In some tier 2 cities, you can even rent a 3 bedroom apartment for 300 USD monthly.

Besides women being easy game, there are a lot of advantages to being a foreigner in China. As a foreigner, especially a white one, people will want to interact with you - your social life will be peak. You will be able to use your foreigner status to get into clubs for free (free drinks too), get good paying jobs, and overall be treated with respect.

As for the language, if you work for certain companies or as an English teacher, they can provide you with Chinese classes free of charge. Also, China today is much more modernized than you think. A huge portion of people below 35 speak some English and they would be more than happy to practice it with you. I remember dating a few girls in China and communication was not an issue since they spoke almost perfect English. I also had a solid friend group of all Chinese natives. Their English was pretty good and I picked up a lot of Chinese from them, making the relationship a strong and fruitful one.

Then again, I was 22 at the time (last year), so your experience might be different. Although, I did speak to middle aged foreigners when I could cause why not, and most of them have become accustomed to calling China their home.

 

[arabcell]

have you looked into islam? considering u have changed a lot between religions.

 

[Messier 4]

you can get scholarship for free school in china at least if ur from most countries, you dont HAVE to stay 4 years, you could just do one.

you seem to be very absolutist which seems to be a very common trait among ppl considering geomaxing, like be realistic, why would a 18yo girl want some 30yo western rotter. Unless you have some redeeming trait (income, looks, status, skill) you wont get a stacy. especially in eastern europe, the days of mid western guys getting stacys where only in the post soviet union days like md 90s when everyone was super poor and desperate to get out.

Both country's have a high culture of depression, etc, caused by social culture, work culture, climate. bear that in mind. you seem to already have that and moving could possibly make it worse.

and will you really be different? you might end up rotting in foreign uni for 4 years and regretting your wasted time again. If you want this to work (which it can) you really need to change your personality/mentality and maybe looks. pharmaceuticals make that easier, as well as being in a new culture (autistic/bad mental/behavioral traits will be played off/seen as cultural differences).

There's a reason they call geomaxers "LBH" losers back home. its kinda known now that if you go abroad you probably have something wrong with you. Ofc exotic halo can overcome that, but a white guy isn't exactly exotic in russia.

An 18yo girl won't look meaningfully different than a 23yo, but if you want the impressionability/pristineness i get that.

ultimately you need to make a decision for yourself, you seem set on russia because of white girls but if you cant pull at home what makes you think you will be able to pull in russia? you wont know the language, you wont rlly have exotic halo, ppl might even avoid you because your western and they dont want law issues, etc.

i think you are majorly inflating russia as a choice, making MASSIVE assumptions about either option (that things will quickly fall into place the second you get their (if they haven't in the last decade at home, why will they now?)) assuming that you will get a white stacy jfl. pull a ltb and then you can think about pulling a mtb, then htb, and so on.

im not trying to be a pessimist, just a realist. take stock in what me and geomaxers say, dont blindly expect virgin stacy when you cant even speak her language jfl

Yes, I'm hopeful that I'll get at least a stacylite, but I know that even in Russia(and even worse in China) that wouldn't be so easy, as they care about something I don't have much of, which is money.

But my chances there will still be much higher than here, so maybe if I persist hard I'll eventually find the one, that won't be so materialistic and be fine with dating down(I'm not a chad).

Another thing I forgot to mention is how hard it would be to find a non arrogant pretty chinese girl, as seeing how rare they are, the few really attractive ones would have a giant ego.
But I don't want to give up on the asian aging genes. I don't know how hard the reality of aging will hit me, and I wish there would be at least a young looking girl by my side when I start to look 30.

 

[Messier 4]

have you looked into islam? considering u have changed a lot between religions.

Just for a little bit.

I have great difficulty in imagining the existence of a good God in this unjust messy world.

 

[Messier 4]

Can't say much for Russia, but I've been to China before. First things first, finding a woman will be far easier if you are a foreigner. You will need a keen eye for spotting naturally beautiful women as many of them go heavy on the makeup and filters. Living expenses are hella nice, everything is cheap. You can buy 5 USD meals and public transport is less than 1 USD. China is a vast country and is very well connected through roads and rail systems, so you can easily travel from one place to another (and for cheap too). In some tier 2 cities, you can even rent a 3 bedroom apartment for 300 USD monthly.

Besides women being easy game, there are a lot of advantages to being a foreigner in China. As a foreigner, especially a white one, people will want to interact with you - your social life will be peak. You will be able to use your foreigner status to get into clubs for free (free drinks too), get good paying jobs, and overall be treated with respect.

As for the language, if you work for certain companies or as an English teacher, they can provide you with Chinese classes free of charge. Also, China today is much more modernized than you think. A huge portion of people below 35 speak some English and they would be more than happy to practice it with you. I remember dating a few girls in China and communication was not an issue since they spoke almost perfect English. I also had a solid friend group of all Chinese natives. Their English was pretty good and I picked up a lot of Chinese from them, making the relationship a strong and fruitful one.

Then again, I was 22 at the time (last year), so your experience might be different. Although, I did speak to middle aged foreigners when I could cause why not, and most of them have become accustomed to calling China their home.

Everything you said is true, but still, the three biggest problems I have with really going deep towards asian and asian women is:

1.The strangness of it all.
I've never left this country, never seen a young asian girl and have 0 personal connections with asia. Locking myself to a chinese girl forever feels scary, as I don't know how much of my moral values, principles or just personal desires I'll have to change in order to conform to that kind of life in China and eventually in a marriage with a girl from another world.

2. Having a hapa son.
I would like my son no matter how he looks, but the world may not feel this way towards a half-asian guy. How much alienated he would feel growing up among white people and how much less value women would give to him compared to white guys. Also, as much as non shallow my mother is, I'm not sure if she would be fine with her grandson not looking like her at all.

3.How arrogant pretty asian girls might be
A stacy in China is a high-tier becky in Russia, so a stacy in Russia would be what? A Megan Fox in China? I'm just imagining the life of a true chinese stacy. Getting worshipped on social media, always receiving compliments, easy job offers and wealthy guys hitting on them. All of that 5x worse than what a russian stacy would get in Russia.

I value humility in a girl a lot, so how is it possible to get a humble girl among chinese megan foxes?

How big would this girl's ego be?

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

Quick introduction: I've been lurking on this forum since 2021. I've since been blackpilled. I know lookism is true.

Ok. This is going to be a longish post that I feel I need to make right before I decide over something that will greatly impact my life, in a way that I may or may not regret it ten or more years from now. I will first give some background in a honest and vulnerable way.
I know some of you will find this post cringe, but I'm desperate and have nowhere else to be this open and exposed anonymously.

OK. I'm a 27M soon to be 28, and I sadly say that I lost my 20s till now, with anxiety, depression and despair being ever so present, preventing me from even starting college, making any friendships or getting a girl(I'm still a virgin). I actually spent 99% of the time inside my house in all those years since high school. I feel great fear of hitting the big 30 two years from now, when adults will think I need to carry the weight of the world like they do and teenagers and young people up until the age of 25 will stop seen me as young.
I feel like the world TRIES to make you happy if you are <25. At that age range, the world gives itself to you for your happiness. Then when you hit 30+, you need to give everything you have to be happy.

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Some may already be picturing an overweight neckbeard with autism(not really judging), but I went to a psychiatrist and the doctor found no neurological issue, although he obviously said I had depression. Nobody that saw me ever said I look past 19, and they get very surprised when I tell them my real age, making me feel even more empty inside for having lost all those years, like I was in a coma. I can go to a high school right now and blend in really easily. Both my parents always looked ten years younger than their actual age, so I got this from them.

With so much free time, I spent countless hours thinking about life, trying to figure its meaning, and this was one reason why I never got the ship going. I felt I had to first find life's meaning in order to start living it, but the more I thought the more I got confused.
The semesters went by, and my doubts about life just kept adding up, while whatever touch on solid paths I had in high school just never happened again. Social media was another reason for this mess, as it make me feel guilty by not having what I saw on it.
I went from wanting to live a different and more exciting life in western europe, then east asia, then eastern europe, then back to western europe, then latin america, then east asia again... this is ridiculous, but I was always in a loop and always got back at previous left behind desires.

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I lost my religious faith after going through some extreme depression phase in 2016, got back at it again after discovering Jordan Peterson, then became an atheist again, then a catholic phase and finally an agnostic. Yes, I'm a ridiculous flip flopper.

Now I don't know what to do. After countless hours thinking about what I should do with my stupid garbage life, I came to two choices: finally go to college and start my life in Russia or in China. Why? Because I figure those are the best places to find the girlfriend I never had and they offer college scholarships(sorry if I'm being blunt and non inspiring in my writing).
Why not do it in the US? Because I simply want to leave this place that is hopeless for me. I'll probably come back to the US and stay forever after college though, since I still want to be close to my family and spend time with them. My mother is close to being 60 and I fear not being there if she needs me when the old age issues start to appear.

So what should I do?

Russia is closer to my country in culture, it's easier to make friends in it and the women are prettier and I'm simply more used to liking white girls. I grew up desiring white girls. In fact, my first crush was with a white girl whose face resembled Scarlett Johansson as a little girl(it was in middle school).

The issue though is that white women age the worst. After maybe about the age of 25, they start to look masculine, wrinkled or their faces start to drop, making them look about 7-10 years older than they are.

From this:

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In a span of 8 to 10 years.



I want a 18 yo girl, so the expiration date for her youth would be about 7 years until she looks past 25.
I'm very afraid of the passage of time, and wanted to get a woman that would make me feel young for as long as possible.



China on the other hand is a much more alien country and this has its positives and negatives. Chinese culture is way more novel and interesting than russian culture, and China is definely the more developed country. On the other hand, I'd really look out of place and not be seen as part of their group even if I spoke fluent chinese, making it almost impossible to build deep friendships while there, even if I'll only stay until graduation.
I also have difficulty connecting China, its culture and its people, with what I've known so far in life and with my family. It just feels off getting a girl from a place so different than my culture and all the people I know.
But China has chinese women, and asian women in general age much better. My girlfriend could be 30 and still looking 20, thus extending my ability to feel connected with youth for about a decade more than if I had a white woman.

They go from this:

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Also in a span of 8-10 years.

But there's a third choice. I can stay in this country, and I feel like this would give me the opportunity to be as close to my family as possible. After wasting ten years of my life, I missed my little cousins growing up, lost close family members and missed almost all the opportunities I had of experiencing life beyond my computer's screen. Now I feel an immense doubt as to whether I should even move to another city in my state, let alone to the other side of the planet, and not be there day by day with my family, for four years.

Please, offer your insights so I can make a decision. I cried 5 days in a roll now and fear that I'll waste another year for not starting something now. Then I'll be 29 and feel no motivation anymore, since I'll be one year from being 30.

White girls mogg when young


Once 24+ throw in bin and reclaim your voucher and trade them out for a black or Asian woman

 

[Messier 4]

White girls mogg when young


Once 24+ throw in bin and reclaim your voucher and trade them out for a black or Asian woman

But I want an ltr and not divorce her. To start from scratch when I'm 35 is not gonna be good.

I still prefer a white girl from from 16-25, so it's a matter of reaching peak satisfaction for 7 years or so, but then have less later when she looks aged, or have a boring looking asian girl now who will look young for ten more years than the white girl.

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

But I want an ltr and not divorce her. To start from scratch when I'm 35 is not gonna be good.

I still prefer a white girl from from 16-25, so it's a matter of reaching peak satisfaction for 7 years or so, but then have less later when she looks aged, or have a boring looking asian girl now who will look young for ten more years than the white girl.

Yeah for marrige go for chink


For fun white girl


This is how it always has been

 

[oijuyfdtrg]

hello

 

[SecularIslamist]

Dnr. But join Tandem and you will find a gook or russian.

 

[oijuyfdtrg]

hello

ive been to china and the people are not really good human beings an example is u can find shops that literally base their entire income on knockoffs and counterfit products. u cant go into one mall without having like 5-6 stores like that. and this was in beijing too btw.

 

[Messier 4]

ive been to china and the people are not really good human beings an example is u can find shops that literally base their entire income on knockoffs and counterfit products. u cant go into one mall without having like 5-6 stores like that. and this was in beijing too btw.

Modern chinese culture isn't a good example for any country, but at least the infrastructure there is the best of any non first world nation.

 

[Messier 4]

Dnr. But join Tandem and you will find a gook or russian.

I haven't had much luck online for women of any country. They're the pickiest and after a few convos they ghost hard. Also, chinese girls for whatever reason either have a cartoon or a celebrity as their profile pictures, but rarily themselves.

 

[Pixel27]

If only asian women could look so amazing like Cherie Lorraine(an asmr girl) or teen Nicola Peltz...

White girls are at the top of the world, and getting one would be like "I won in life". Asian women feel like plan B, lesser, what remained after the best was over etc.

I know I'd be 3x more attractive in China than here, but I also find asian girls 3x less attractive than white women, even if they're of the "same" rating.

I don't want to just slay. I can't afford losing any more years without a girl that'll really be there for me and give me kids.

If I was looking for ons, China would be by far the easiest place for that.

Now, asian genes making women extend their teenage looks for two decades? That's very hard for me to ignore, even if I'll never get one that looks so "co While lourful" as a white woman.

in my opinion you might need to slay for a little bit while STILL being on the lookout for your wifey girl. While 27 isn't too late to turn things you around you need to act with ultimate URGENCY. Most women who want an older guy want him for experience.

Now you don't have to be a degenerate and rack up an insane body count but you need to spend every day or almost every day leveling up your social skills. Talk to everyone and force yourself to get out of the house, the house will continue to be the death of you. I went on a tangent but this is related because this'll make it easier to talk to women if you're used to talking to everyone. Go to clubs and bars and figure out how to be social and outgoing

You need to know how to attract a woman (Basically act a little hot and cold, you can show interest but dont verbalize interest if that makes sense) how to keep her interested (Basically you need to have stuff going on in your life like hobbies, and social life) How to have a successful first date, how to have a good dating funnel so you can greatly increase your chances of finding that girl (Bascially the best way to achieve this is to utilize social circle + cold approaching + dating apps) Have an attractive instagram profile. Instagram can really help you out in finding good quality women either in your area or outside, I found a staceylite there that i wouldn't have found if I wasn't on IG. But with IG you need to have a good amount of followers (like 400+) and good pictures.

You really need to think ASAP what do you want to do to make money, do you care about passion or is it just money you're worried about?

 

[Squidwardmaxx]

You gotta choose asap,every passing day seems to cripple your sense of youth even further; also you're gonna need a shit ton of $ to maintain the lifestyle you want particularly the 18 year old. I wouldn't go into this expedition expecting a lovey-dovey relationship either since from what I can tell you have minimal to no experience. Not that it can't happen but we don't want complete delusion either. The best advice I can offer is stay level-headed and realistic.

 

[BeanCelll]

You gotta choose asap,every passing day seems to cripple your sense of youth even further; also you're gonna need a shit ton of $ to maintain the lifestyle you want particularly the 18 year old. I wouldn't go into this expedition expecting a lovey-dovey relationship either since from what I can tell you have minimal to no experience. Not that it can't happen but we don't want complete delusion either. The best advice I can offer is stay level-headed and realistic.

I will put my 12x7 octopus dildo up your gaping asshole

 

[Squidwardmaxx]

I will put my 12x7 octopus dildo up your gaping asshole

overconfidence?