I'm having surgery with Dr. Taban to fix my eyes

[nachx]

Hi guys,
I'm having surgery with Dr Taban next week. I'm geting the following procedures done: Infraorbital rim implants to correct the negative vector and prominent eyes, lower eyelid retraction to get vertically narrower eyes and and upper eyelid filler to provide more hooding to the upper eyelids.
I'm going with Dr. Taban because I had heard bad things about other doctors cutting the eyelids and performing canthopexies. I don't think I could expect to get better results with eyelid retraction elsewhere.
My concern is that with the non-custom infraorbital implant I'm not getting any vertical projection to the orbital rim to reduce the eye socket that provides better support to the eyelid, so I guess I will get some hollowing between the implant and the eyeball, which I hope is not exaggerated. I don't know, just guessing what the results might be. In the worst case, I could try fat grafting. Another concern is that without a custom implant I probably won't get the ideal high cheekbone look (I have nice zygos, but low and non defined cheekbones, with quite some fat in the lower cheeks area).
I wish Dr. Taban could offer custom implants, because the other option would have been Dr. Eppley, but I had read some bad reviews and I wasn't ready to put my eyelids on his hands. Already paid, so there's no going back, but I will always ask myself what the results would have been with a custom implant.

 

[HighTGymcel]

dr talibans gonna blow your face up

 

[jjm4765]

good luck man, hopefully everything goes well and you get the results you want.
i dont know much about implants or custom implants but from what ive read you should usually go with custom implants, hopefully it should all be fine though.
can you post your results once all of the swelling has gone down

 

[Deleted member 2846]

PM your eyes?

btw if u have negative vector and have bugly-ish eyes, you would benefit from orbital decompression. @nachx

 

[nachx]

PM your eyes?

btw if u have negative vector and have bugly-ish eyes, you would benefit from orbital decompression. @nachx

Dr Taban told me that I hadn't bulgy eyes, but that they looked prominent because the mid face deficiency, which does not project enough forward (but it does laterally, that's why I look reasonably good from a frontal point of view, even with my tired eyes, but I'm have a subhuman profile).

 

[Deleted member 2846]

Dr Taban told me that I hadn't bulgy eyes, but that they looked prominent because the mid face deficiency, which does not project enough forward (but it does laterally, that's why I look reasonably good from a frontal point of view, even with my tired eyes, but I'm have a subhuman profile).

can you please pm your face? i’m very interested in taban and his surgery and want to acquire as much info and cases before i consult with him.

 

[OOGABOOGA]

@facemaxxed

 

[Deleted member 2846]

@facemaxxed

what’s the name of the surgery called in ur avi. like bi saggital spilt or sum?

 

[OOGABOOGA]

what’s the name of the surgery called in ur avi. like bi saggital spilt or sum?

Idek if it’s a real thing tbh but it made me laugh

 

[Time Travel]

good luck man, hopefully everything goes well and you get the results you want.
i dont know much about implants or custom implants but from what ive read you should usually go with custom implants, hopefully it should all be fine though.
can you post your results once all of the swelling has gone down

 

[Deleted member 2846]

Idek if it’s a real thing tbh but it made me laugh

it’s a real thing jfl. modern medicine is incredible. imagine how fucked in the head you need to be to perform those surgeries tho

 

[Deleted member 2933]

Greycels mogging old members on the ascension path, what a shame.

 

[Deleted member 4054]

Why can't he give you custom implants? Definitely don't get off the shelf silicone orbital rim implants imo. They won't be symmetrical, and they'll cause resorption over time especially since Taban doesn't use screw fixation. He already uses implantech, it wouldn't even be that much more expensive to have them designed off a cbct and custom manufactured to fit your anatomy.

 

[nachx]

Why can't he give you custom implants? Definitely don't get off the shelf silicone orbital rim implants imo. They won't be symmetrical, and they'll cause resorption over time especially since Taban doesn't use screw fixation. He already uses implantech, it wouldn't even be that much more expensive to have them designed off a cbct and custom manufactured to fit your anatomy.

I wish he had offered me custom implants, but he hasn't. I don't know the reason. It's true that he doesn't use screw fixation, but he told me that they won't cause bone reabsorption...

 

[KEy21]

Prediction:

Your almond eye surgery will go well - the upper eyelid fillers will be underwhelming but you'll be satisfied enough (Debating whether to go back for another session, but inevitably saying fuck it you'll accept it) and the infraorbital rim implants will do virtually nothing.

Source: Someone who's done the surgeries

 

[nachx]

Why can't he give you custom implants? Definitely don't get off the shelf silicone orbital rim implants imo. They won't be symmetrical, and they'll cause resorption over time especially since Taban doesn't use screw fixation. He already uses implantech, it wouldn't even be that much more expensive to have them designed off a cbct and custom manufactured to fit your anatomy.

I wish he had offered me custom implants. He told me that he doesn't use screws (I don't remember exactly how he fixes the implants in place). But he also told me that they won't case bone reabsortion.

Man, due to my OCD and your comments I'm starting to think about visiting Eppley in a few years.

Prediction:

Your almond eye surgery will go well - the upper eyelid fillers will be underwhelming but you'll be satisfied enough (Debating whether to go back for another session, but inevitably saying fuck it you'll accept it) and the infraorbital rim implants will do virtually nothing.

Source: Someone who's done the surgeries

Do you think that custom implants would have helped? Perhaps when the problem is that you have big eye sockets, off-the-self implants do nothing and the look of good bone support is only achieved with custom implants that sit on the orbital rim. That's my case and I'm fearing I won't see much improvement.

Regarding the fillers, I will probably have another session, but I'd prefer to find a local doctor that does it cheaper. I've spoken to some that do not do fillers below the brows.

 

[Deleted member 4054]

I wish he had offered me custom implants, but he hasn't. I don't know the reason. It's true that he doesn't use screw fixation, but he told me that they won't cause bone reabsorption...

They absolutely will, and to varying degrees depending on how poorly they conform to your underlying bone structure. I've spoken to surgeons who have seen silicone orbital/malar implants without screw fixation erode all the way into the maxillary sinus. Even local hack surgeons are willing to do custom implants now that it's an all digital process, not sure why he'd refuse.

 

[KEy21]

I wish he had offered me custom implants. He told me that he doesn't use screws (I don't remember exactly how he fixes the implants in place). But he also told me that they won't case bone reabsortion.

Man, due to my OCD and your comments I'm starting to think about visiting Eppley in a few years.


Do you think that custom implants would have helped? Perhaps when the problem is that you have big eye sockets, off-the-self implants do nothing and the look of good bone support is only achieved with custom implants that sit on the orbital rim. That's my case and I'm fearing I won't see much improvement.

Regarding the fillers, I will probably have another session, but I'd prefer to find a local doctor that does it cheaper. I've spoken to some that do not do fillers below the brows.

Just get undereye fillers where you need volume after the orbital rim implant. In most cases you'd need more volume anyway whether it was custom or not, you can only do so much augmentation without having to saddle the implant on the inside of the eye bone.

You're probably just getting a basic flowers implant that will be inserted via the mouth or undereye that is wrapped around the supraorbital nerve. It might not even be screwed or fixated just for the simple fact that it will stay in place either way there once you're healed.

 

[nachx]

They absolutely will, and to varying degrees depending on how poorly they conform to your underlying bone structure. I've spoken to surgeons who have seen silicone orbital/malar implants without screw fixation erode all the way into the maxillary sinus. Even local hack surgeons are willing to do custom implants now that it's an all digital process, not sure why he'd refuse.

Well, the thing is that he hasn’t offered any option, and I didn’t ask because until recently I didn’t know how important it is.

Man, I’m starting to worry a lot. Should I have gone with Eppley?

Just get undereye fillers where you need volume after the orbital rim implant. In most cases you'd need more volume anyway whether it was custom or not, you can only do so much augmentation without having to saddle the implant on the inside of the eye bone.

You're probably just getting a basic flowers implant that will be inserted via the mouth or undereye that is wrapped around the supraorbital nerve. It might not even be screwed or fixated just for the simple fact that it will stay in place either way there once you're healed.

Yeah, I think it’s the implantech preformed implant. Dr. Taban inserts it throgh the eyelid and he does not use screw fixation.

 

[Deleted member 4054]

Flowers was a

Well, the thing is that he hasn’t offered any option, and I didn’t ask because until recently I didn’t know how important it is.

Man, I’m starting to worry a lot. Should I have gone with Eppley?

Everything is a tradeoff. Eppley is far more experienced with implants, but Taban does better eye work and is in his surgical prime. I think you chose the better doctor to have your eyes done, I'm just leery of off the shelf silicone implants based on personal experience, especially those sutured in place.

 

[nachx]

Flowers was a



Everything is a tradeoff. Eppley is far more experienced with implants, but Taban does better eye work and is in his surgical prime. I think you chose the better doctor to have your eyes done, I'm just leery of off the shelf silicone implants based on personal experience, especially those sutured in place.

Yeah, suture fixation could still allow the implant to have micro movements that cause bone reabsortion. Did you have problems with your implants?
In the end, for what you say, I might have to have the implants removed and replaced by custom ones not too far from now, but I fear that having more procedures through the eyelid will destroy Dr Tabans work. The correct course of action would have been to have Eppleys custom implants and then finish the thing with Dr. Tabans eye shape magic. Quite more expensive, but probably worth it.

 

[Deusmaximus]

What will be the price for the whole package? 20k?

 

[Deleted member 4054]

Yeah, suture fixation could still allow the implant to have micro movements that cause bone reabsortion. Did you have problems with your implants?
In the end, for what you say, I might have to have the implants removed and replaced by custom ones not too far from now, but I fear that having more procedures through the eyelid will destroy Dr Tabans work. The correct course of action would have been to have Eppleys custom implants and then finish the thing with Dr. Tabans eye shape magic. Quite more expensive, but probably worth it.

I had many problems with implants due to bad luck, but what set the ball in motion was silicone jaw implants that were misplaced and caused major bone resorption in only 1 year.

I'd still see if Taban could create something for you in terms of a custom implant, even if it requires pushing the date back a bit. The fewer times you cut through the lower lid, the better. Multiple surgeries in that area is a recipe for complications

 

[crosshold]

go to eppley for implant and taban for the rest

 

[Deleted member 2846]

go to eppley for implant and taban for the rest

The ole PSL dual combo

 

[Bimax]

good luck bro

 

[crosshold]

The ole PSL dual combo

ah yes, my nigga Y

 

[nachx]

go to eppley for implant and taban for the rest

That’d be the ideal route, but the expensive one. I already paid for the surgery since I thought this “package” had everything I needed, overestimating the results of off-the-shelf implants and their long term complications for their poor placement over the bone. I should have done more research first, though.

What will be the price for the whole package? 20k?

A bit less than that, but not far from it. The prices of the combined procedure are not that high, but the anesthesia and also the fillers are quite high in my opinion. But, the upper eyelid area is quite delicate and only an expert injector in that area should do it.

 

[crosshold]

I had many problems with implants due to bad luck, but what set the ball in motion was silicone jaw implants that were misplaced and caused major bone resorption in only 1 year.

I'd still see if Taban could create something for you in terms of a custom implant, even if it requires pushing the date back a bit. The fewer times you cut through the lower lid, the better. Multiple surgeries in that area is a recipe for complications

how were they misplaced

That’d be the ideal route, but the expensive one. I already for the surgery since I thought this “package” had everything I needed, overestimating the results of off-the-shelf implants and their long term complications for their poor placement over the bone. I should have done more research first, though.


A bit less than that, but not far from it.

im sure it'll be fine man

 

[Deleted member 4054]

how were they misplaced

They were the off the shelf taylor lateral design, and the left one was placed a few cm above the inferior border of the mandible, while the right was placed too far backward. By the time I had them removed a year later they were both almost entirely encased in bone because they had caused so much resorption from micromovement

 

[Cope]

go to eppley for implant and taban for the rest

 

[crosshold]

They were the off the shelf taylor lateral design, and the left one was placed a few cm above the inferior border of the mandible, while the right was placed too far backward. By the time I had them removed a year later they were both almost entirely encased in bone because they had caused so much resorption from micromovement

damn dude that sucks. is it all good now though?

 

[nachx]

how were they misplaced

im sure it'll be fine man

Yeah, I hope there won't be problems. But now looking through the forums I've seen the results that @facemaxxed has achieved with custom implants and since I also need vertical projection for my big eye socket, I now know for sure I won't get that good bone support and high cheekbone look I wanted. I wish I had done the implants with Eppley, I have lots of regrets now for trying to save some bucks.

 

[Barbarossa_]

Greycels mogging old members on the ascension path, what a shame.

Watch out for me too buddy boyo I got my face CT scan last week and sent them to my surgeon!

 

[nachx]

I had many problems with implants due to bad luck, but what set the ball in motion was silicone jaw implants that were misplaced and caused major bone resorption in only 1 year.

I'd still see if Taban could create something for you in terms of a custom implant, even if it requires pushing the date back a bit. The fewer times you cut through the lower lid, the better. Multiple surgeries in that area is a recipe for complications

Emailed Dr T and he said that implants are as custom as they get. So no chance, he doesn't do custom

 

[Chintuck22]

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[Deleted member 2846]

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downward grown orbitals are truly a death sentence

 

[nachx]

I had the surgery 6 weeks ago. I still look like a monster , the swelling and the bruising have been worse than I expected, but everything went right. I do think that Dr Taban is a great surgeon and that he has done a great job with me. I really didn't trust anybody else to mess with my eyes.
I ended up doing orbital decompression too, because my eyes were slightly too protruding with respect to my upper orbital rim, whereas my lower orbital rim is quite recessed. This is one of Dr Taban's specialities.
So the most notable change is the eye lid refraction which has changed the shape of my eyes. Then, the orbital decompression has improved my profile, noticeable comparing the position of the eye with respecto to the brow bone. The infraorbital implant is noticeable too, as it too improves profile and in conjunction with the orbital decompression, my eyes are now more sunken and the negative vector is gone. The implant, even if it improves the profile, I don't think it's worth it in the off the self form. It's a minor improvement that doesn't increase the attractiveness , in my opinion. The high cheeks look is more important. That's why I still think that I should have got custom implant as I needed cheek augmentation too and in my opinion a high cheek is more important for looking attractive than the "tear through deformity that the off the self implant is intended to correct.
Probably my only option now is to use fillers for augmenting a bit the high part of the cheeks or ask Eppley in the future if the implants can be replaced from the mouth (with the increased risk of infections and numbness). Dr Taban told me that I should never again consider a surgery through the eyelid.
I will always regret not having the custom implant. Being as time consuming as it is, I understand why Dr Taban doesn't offer custom implants, as he really focused in the eye area.
In any case I'm still waiting a few weeks to be able to see the final outcome. Except for the orbital rim implant, which I don't think it's worth it unless you get a custom implant, I am very happy with what Dr. Taban has achieved.

 

[Deleted member 3962]

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[Deleted member 2933]

Greycels mogging oldcels.

 

[kota]

I had the surgery 6 weeks ago. I still look like a monster , the swelling and the bruising have been worse than I expected, but everything went right. I do think that Dr Taban is a great surgeon and that he has done a great job with me. I really didn't trust anybody else to mess with my eyes.
I ended up doing orbital decompression too, because my eyes were slightly too protruding with respect to my upper orbital rim, whereas my lower orbital rim is quite recessed. This is one of Dr Taban's specialities.
So the most notable change is the eye lid refraction which has changed the shape of my eyes. Then, the orbital decompression has improved my profile, noticeable comparing the position of the eye with respecto to the brow bone. The infraorbital implant is noticeable too, as it too improves profile and in conjunction with the orbital decompression, my eyes are now more sunken and the negative vector is gone. The implant, even if it improves the profile, I don't think it's worth it in the off the self form. It's a minor improvement that doesn't increase the attractiveness , in my opinion. The high cheeks look is more important. That's why I still think that I should have got custom implant as I needed cheek augmentation too and in my opinion a high cheek is more important for looking attractive than the "tear through deformity that the off the self implant is intended to correct.
Probably my only option now is to use fillers for augmenting a bit the high part of the cheeks or ask Eppley in the future if the implants can be replaced from the mouth (with the increased risk of infections and numbness). Dr Taban told me that I should never again consider a surgery through the eyelid.
I will always regret not having the custom implant. Being as time consuming as it is, I understand why Dr Taban doesn't offer custom implants, as he really focused in the eye area.
In any case I'm still waiting a few weeks to be able to see the final outcome. Except for the orbital rim implant, which I don't think it's worth it unless you get a custom implant, I am very happy with what Dr. Taban has achieved.

Good job op. I had the same thing done minus the implants and results were overall good. Just need to hold on for the swelling, 3 months is about right for final results.

Are you really 6 weeks post op or was that a typo? Seemed like you were pre surgery 2 weeks ago when opening this thread.

Did Taban tell you that doing surgery through the eyelid again could ruin the results from the eyelid retraction surgery?

 

[ibetucnt]

I had the surgery 6 weeks ago. I still look like a monster , the swelling and the bruising have been worse than I expected, but everything went right. I do think that Dr Taban is a great surgeon and that he has done a great job with me. I really didn't trust anybody else to mess with my eyes.
I ended up doing orbital decompression too, because my eyes were slightly too protruding with respect to my upper orbital rim, whereas my lower orbital rim is quite recessed. This is one of Dr Taban's specialities.
So the most notable change is the eye lid refraction which has changed the shape of my eyes. Then, the orbital decompression has improved my profile, noticeable comparing the position of the eye with respecto to the brow bone. The infraorbital implant is noticeable too, as it too improves profile and in conjunction with the orbital decompression, my eyes are now more sunken and the negative vector is gone. The implant, even if it improves the profile, I don't think it's worth it in the off the self form. It's a minor improvement that doesn't increase the attractiveness , in my opinion. The high cheeks look is more important. That's why I still think that I should have got custom implant as I needed cheek augmentation too and in my opinion a high cheek is more important for looking attractive than the "tear through deformity that the off the self implant is intended to correct.
Probably my only option now is to use fillers for augmenting a bit the high part of the cheeks or ask Eppley in the future if the implants can be replaced from the mouth (with the increased risk of infections and numbness). Dr Taban told me that I should never again consider a surgery through the eyelid.
I will always regret not having the custom implant. Being as time consuming as it is, I understand why Dr Taban doesn't offer custom implants, as he really focused in the eye area.
In any case I'm still waiting a few weeks to be able to see the final outcome. Except for the orbital rim implant, which I don't think it's worth it unless you get a custom implant, I am very happy with what Dr. Taban has achieved.

did u end up getting upper eyelid fillers ?

 

[nachx]

Good job op. I had the same thing done minus the implants and results were overall good. Just need to hold on for the swelling, 3 months is about right for final results.

Are you really 6 weeks post op or was that a typo? Seemed like you were pre surgery 2 weeks ago when opening this thread.

Did Taban tell you that doing surgery through the eyelid again could ruin the results from the eyelid retraction surgery?

6 days post op, sorry. It's a typo.

He said he could remove the implant with a minimal effect in the retraction in case of infections for example, but I asked him about doing other procedures through the eyelid and he just said that I shouldn't touch the eyelids ever again, without being specific.

did u end up getting upper eyelid fillers ?

Yes. I got everything plus the orbital decompression.

 

[Amnesia]

Dr Taban told me that I should never again consider a surgery through the eyelid.

@SurgerySoon

 

[SurgerySoon]

@SurgerySoon

LOL he told me the same thing. That's what I tell people when they always ask me, "Why didn't you go to Taban first before getting implants done by Dr. Y?" It's also the reason behind why I have to go back to Dr. Y to have my midface implants revised BEFORE I go to Taban

 

[nachx]

LOL he told me the same thing. That's what I tell people when they always ask me, "Why didn't you go to Taban first before getting implants done by Dr. Y?" It's also the reason behind why I have to go back to Dr. Y to have my midface implants revised BEFORE I go to Taban

I should have do that same thing. But, It would have costed me double (for custom implants) and much more time. Which, being from outside the US, is starts to get very time time consuming and much more expensive. I just regret not doing the looxmax research on implants years earlier, when I was younger and could have started saving for this earlier too. At this point in my life I had no other choice than going with Dr Taban for a "whole package" for my eyes. For mid face augmentation there are probably other options, especially if you want customs like I wish I could have had, but if you want your eyes also done, there are few that can compare to Dr Taban.
Probably my only option if I want to improve my cheeks is to ask Dr Eppley , in the future, if he can replace the implants from the mouth. I won't probably do nothing and just go with fillers, because the cheek area that needs improvement is small and my zygos are already lateraly prominent.
If you have the time and the money, doing custom implants and then going to Dr Taban is probably the best choice.

LOL he told me the same thing. That's what I tell people when they always ask me, "Why didn't you go to Taban first before getting implants done by Dr. Y?" It's also the reason behind why I have to go back to Dr. Y to have my midface implants revised BEFORE I go to Taban

Did he told you why his incision should not be reopened again?

 

[SurgerySoon]

I should have do that same thing. But, It would have costed me double (for custom implants) and much more time. Which, being from outside the US, is starts to get very time time consuming and much more expensive. I just regret not doing the looxmax research on implants years earlier, when I was younger and could have started saving for this earlier too. At this point in my life I had no other choice than going with Dr Taban for a "whole package" for my eyes. For mid face augmentation there are probably other options, especially if you want customs like I wish I could have had, but if you want your eyes also done, there are few that can compare to Dr Taban.
Probably my only option if I want to improve my cheeks is to ask Dr Eppley , in the future, if he can replace the implants from the mouth. I won't probably do nothing and just go with fillers, because the cheek area that needs improvement is small and my zygos are already lateraly prominent.
If you have the time and the money, doing custom implants and then going to Dr Taban is probably the best choice.

Did he told you why his incision should not be reopened again?

He said that if the lower eyelid incision is opened after lower eyelid retraction surgery has been performed, it could ruin the results of the lower eyelid retraction procedure. In other words, it could make the lower eyelids become droopy and retracted again. At this point, I'm going to see if I can go back to my original surgeon to have my midface implants revised before I go to Taban for eye area surgery.

 

[brutal_blackpill]

He said that if the lower eyelid incision is opened after lower eyelid retraction surgery has been performed, it could ruin the results of the lower eyelid retraction procedure. In other words, it could make the lower eyelids become droopy and retracted again. At this point, I'm going to see if I can go back to my original surgeon to have my midface implants revised before I go to Taban for eye area surgery.

Why do you need to revise your midface implants if you’re supposedly getting an orbital rim implant from Taban?

 

[FacialAesthetics]

Did this guy ever get surgery

 

[Deleted member 7823]

How much was your orbital decompression? 18k?