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Bruh
It’s skin deep unfortunately
It’s skin deep unfortunately
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Also he's not jatt is a dalit dungbeetle like @NarrowBoneMarrow
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What even is the beefAlso he's not jatt is a dalit dungbeetle like @NarrowBoneMarrow
Narroworbits is cool
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He attempted to dox me so I silenced him that's why he's banned rn
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Explain rn what happened and why did he try to dox you.
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GYMMAXX GANG ELIMINATES NARROWBONEMARROW, DALITDUNGBEETLE EVISCERATED
GYMMAXX GANG CLAIMS THEIR SECOND VICTIM OF THE DAY This dalitdungbeetle really got on my fucking nerves You see it all began when the bastard, @NarrowBoneMarrow kept calling himself HTN, i couldn't stand the little rat being so narcy, so i began to brutally bully him with my GANG! FIRST I...
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I told him to calm his ego weeks ago but he didn’t listen it seemsGYMMAXX GANG ELIMINATES NARROWBONEMARROW, DALITDUNGBEETLE EVISCERATED
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DNA tests aren't accurate. You need to get tested under research conditions. I asked AI why Finns and Kurds are underrepresented for East Asian and European ancestries respectively despite those being common according to the research.
Finns
Certainly, *name redacted*! Let me break down the details further:
### 1. **Population Studies and Their Methodologies**
- **High-Resolution Genomic Analyses:**
Population studies often use genome-wide data with hundreds of thousands or millions of SNPs (single nucleotide polymorphisms). They employ advanced statistical techniques such as:
- **Principal Component Analysis (PCA):** To visualize genetic variation.
- **ADMIXTURE or STRUCTURE models:** To estimate proportions of ancestry from multiple source populations.
- **Haplotype-based analyses:** To detect shared segments of DNA that indicate common ancestry, even if it's ancient or minor.
- **Detection of Low-Level Ancestry:**
These methods are sensitive enough to detect small fractions of ancestry (<10%), especially when large datasets and sophisticated models are used.
- **Historical Context:**
Some studies suggest that Finns have a small but significant component of East Asian ancestry (~10%), possibly introduced through ancient migration routes or population movements during the prehistoric period.
### 2. **Consumer DNA Tests and Their Limitations**
- **Limited Marker Sets:**
Companies like 23andMe or Ancestry.com use a smaller subset of markers optimized for recent and broad ancestry detection, not fine-scale or ancient admixture.
- **Reference Populations:**
The reference panels are usually based on modern populations, which may not capture ancient or minor admixture signals well. If East Asian populations are underrepresented or not included in the reference panel, the software can't identify East Asian ancestry effectively.
- **Ancestry Thresholds:**
These tests often set a minimum percentage (e.g., 1-2%) for reporting a particular ancestry. If the East Asian component in your DNA is below this threshold or dispersed across multiple small segments, it may not be reported.
### 3. **Genetic Drift and Population History in Finland**
- **Founder Effects & Bottlenecks:**
Finnish populations have experienced genetic drift and founder effects, which can obscure or dilute signals of ancient admixture.
- **Admixture Timing:**
The East Asian-related ancestry could be very ancient, possibly from migration events thousands of years ago, and over time, genetic signals become more diffuse and harder to detect with limited markers.
### 4. **Why the Difference?**
- The **discrepancy** arises because population studies use **whole-genome data and sensitive analytical methods** capable of detecting **small, ancient, or complex admixture signals**.
- In contrast, **consumer tests** are designed for **ease of use, recent ancestry, and broad categories**, which can **miss minor or ancient signals**.
---
**Summary:**
While detailed research indicates Finns may carry a small (<10%) East Asian genetic component, the methods used in direct-to-consumer tests are often not sensitive enough to detect such minor contributions, especially if they are ancient or dispersed. As a result, your individual test might report 0% East Asian ancestry despite the broader population-level evidence.
Kurds
That's an insightful question, *name redacted*. The apparent discrepancy—where West Asian populations like Kurds appear to have "0%" European ancestry in some consumer tests despite evidence to the contrary—stems from several factors related to how genetic testing works and the historical complexities involved:
### 1. **Limitations of Consumer DNA Tests**
- **Reference Panels and Marker Resolution:**
Consumer tests rely on limited reference populations and a small set of genetic markers. If these references don't capture the full diversity or the subtle signals of shared ancestry, the tests may **fail to detect low-level European admixture**.
- **Thresholds for Reporting Ancestry:**
Many tests only report ancestry components above a certain percentage (e.g., 1–2%). If European-related ancestry in Kurds is **low or dispersed**, it might **not meet the threshold** and thus be reported as 0%.
- **Recent vs. Ancient Ancestry:**
These tests are optimized for recent admixture (within a few generations). Ancient shared ancestry may **not be strong enough or localized enough** in the genome to be detected reliably, particularly if it’s been diluted over time.
### 2. **Complex Population Histories**
- **Shared Ancient Ancestry:**
West Asians and Europeans share a **common ancestral gene pool** from thousands of years ago, making it difficult to distinguish between the two in modern populations with simple models. This can lead to **underestimation or misclassification** of European-related ancestry.
- **Migration and Admixture Events:**
Kurds, like many West Asian groups, have experienced complex migration patterns, including **gene flow from Europe, Anatolia, and the Middle East**. Some studies show Kurds have **more European ancestry** than other West Asians, possibly due to historical migrations, trade, or conquests.
### 3. **Population Structure and Genetic Drift**
- **Genetic Drift and Bottlenecks:**
Over generations, genetic drift can **alter the frequency of certain alleles**, making it harder for consumer tests to detect subtle European contributions in Kurds, especially if those contributions are ancient and have become diffuse.
### 4. **Differences Between Scientific Studies and Consumer Reports**
- **Population-Level vs. Individual Results:**
Population genetics studies often **use high-resolution genome-wide data** and **model-based analyses** to detect even minor European contributions. These studies might show Kurds with **notable European ancestry** (sometimes more than neighboring populations).
- **Consumer Tests Are Simplified:**
The algorithms in consumer tests are **designed for broad categories and recent admixture**, so they may **miss or underestimate** these signals, leading to reports of "0%" European ancestry.
---
### **In Summary:**
- **Kurds and other West Asians may have significant European ancestry** detectable via detailed population studies but **not always reflected in consumer DNA tests** due to methodological limitations.
- **Historical and prehistoric migrations**, shared ancient origins, and complex demographic events explain these genetic overlaps.
- **Consumer tests are useful but limited**, and their results should be interpreted in the context of broader scientific research.
Also, LOL at "broadly MENA" as if "ME" aren't closer to Southern Europeans than they are to "NA". If we're gonna be lumping groups, why not create an "SEME" group?
Finns
Certainly, *name redacted*! Let me break down the details further:
### 1. **Population Studies and Their Methodologies**
- **High-Resolution Genomic Analyses:**
Population studies often use genome-wide data with hundreds of thousands or millions of SNPs (single nucleotide polymorphisms). They employ advanced statistical techniques such as:
- **Principal Component Analysis (PCA):** To visualize genetic variation.
- **ADMIXTURE or STRUCTURE models:** To estimate proportions of ancestry from multiple source populations.
- **Haplotype-based analyses:** To detect shared segments of DNA that indicate common ancestry, even if it's ancient or minor.
- **Detection of Low-Level Ancestry:**
These methods are sensitive enough to detect small fractions of ancestry (<10%), especially when large datasets and sophisticated models are used.
- **Historical Context:**
Some studies suggest that Finns have a small but significant component of East Asian ancestry (~10%), possibly introduced through ancient migration routes or population movements during the prehistoric period.
### 2. **Consumer DNA Tests and Their Limitations**
- **Limited Marker Sets:**
Companies like 23andMe or Ancestry.com use a smaller subset of markers optimized for recent and broad ancestry detection, not fine-scale or ancient admixture.
- **Reference Populations:**
The reference panels are usually based on modern populations, which may not capture ancient or minor admixture signals well. If East Asian populations are underrepresented or not included in the reference panel, the software can't identify East Asian ancestry effectively.
- **Ancestry Thresholds:**
These tests often set a minimum percentage (e.g., 1-2%) for reporting a particular ancestry. If the East Asian component in your DNA is below this threshold or dispersed across multiple small segments, it may not be reported.
### 3. **Genetic Drift and Population History in Finland**
- **Founder Effects & Bottlenecks:**
Finnish populations have experienced genetic drift and founder effects, which can obscure or dilute signals of ancient admixture.
- **Admixture Timing:**
The East Asian-related ancestry could be very ancient, possibly from migration events thousands of years ago, and over time, genetic signals become more diffuse and harder to detect with limited markers.
### 4. **Why the Difference?**
- The **discrepancy** arises because population studies use **whole-genome data and sensitive analytical methods** capable of detecting **small, ancient, or complex admixture signals**.
- In contrast, **consumer tests** are designed for **ease of use, recent ancestry, and broad categories**, which can **miss minor or ancient signals**.
---
**Summary:**
While detailed research indicates Finns may carry a small (<10%) East Asian genetic component, the methods used in direct-to-consumer tests are often not sensitive enough to detect such minor contributions, especially if they are ancient or dispersed. As a result, your individual test might report 0% East Asian ancestry despite the broader population-level evidence.
Kurds
That's an insightful question, *name redacted*. The apparent discrepancy—where West Asian populations like Kurds appear to have "0%" European ancestry in some consumer tests despite evidence to the contrary—stems from several factors related to how genetic testing works and the historical complexities involved:
### 1. **Limitations of Consumer DNA Tests**
- **Reference Panels and Marker Resolution:**
Consumer tests rely on limited reference populations and a small set of genetic markers. If these references don't capture the full diversity or the subtle signals of shared ancestry, the tests may **fail to detect low-level European admixture**.
- **Thresholds for Reporting Ancestry:**
Many tests only report ancestry components above a certain percentage (e.g., 1–2%). If European-related ancestry in Kurds is **low or dispersed**, it might **not meet the threshold** and thus be reported as 0%.
- **Recent vs. Ancient Ancestry:**
These tests are optimized for recent admixture (within a few generations). Ancient shared ancestry may **not be strong enough or localized enough** in the genome to be detected reliably, particularly if it’s been diluted over time.
### 2. **Complex Population Histories**
- **Shared Ancient Ancestry:**
West Asians and Europeans share a **common ancestral gene pool** from thousands of years ago, making it difficult to distinguish between the two in modern populations with simple models. This can lead to **underestimation or misclassification** of European-related ancestry.
- **Migration and Admixture Events:**
Kurds, like many West Asian groups, have experienced complex migration patterns, including **gene flow from Europe, Anatolia, and the Middle East**. Some studies show Kurds have **more European ancestry** than other West Asians, possibly due to historical migrations, trade, or conquests.
### 3. **Population Structure and Genetic Drift**
- **Genetic Drift and Bottlenecks:**
Over generations, genetic drift can **alter the frequency of certain alleles**, making it harder for consumer tests to detect subtle European contributions in Kurds, especially if those contributions are ancient and have become diffuse.
### 4. **Differences Between Scientific Studies and Consumer Reports**
- **Population-Level vs. Individual Results:**
Population genetics studies often **use high-resolution genome-wide data** and **model-based analyses** to detect even minor European contributions. These studies might show Kurds with **notable European ancestry** (sometimes more than neighboring populations).
- **Consumer Tests Are Simplified:**
The algorithms in consumer tests are **designed for broad categories and recent admixture**, so they may **miss or underestimate** these signals, leading to reports of "0%" European ancestry.
---
### **In Summary:**
- **Kurds and other West Asians may have significant European ancestry** detectable via detailed population studies but **not always reflected in consumer DNA tests** due to methodological limitations.
- **Historical and prehistoric migrations**, shared ancient origins, and complex demographic events explain these genetic overlaps.
- **Consumer tests are useful but limited**, and their results should be interpreted in the context of broader scientific research.
Also, LOL at "broadly MENA" as if "ME" aren't closer to Southern Europeans than they are to "NA". If we're gonna be lumping groups, why not create an "SEME" group?
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