I’m sick of the female vs male gaze debate part 2

[the next o'pry]

What I dislike the most about these 'female vs male gaze' threads is the constant dichotomy that they use:

you're either an ogre that appeals to +30y women or a teenage boy that appeals to sub 16 girls.

When, in reality, what you truly need is to have a moderate amount of dimorphism in your bone structure accompanied by good health indicators,

like in this 2 threads

Sometimes I’m sick of the male vs female gaze debate

Honestly, I've realized all these male vs female gaze threads are utter cope. Women like masculine-looking men. Period. The problem is that the term masculinity was subverted when it comes to looks/appearance. Thanks to all the old, non-virile, subhuman men who managed to delude young...

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A Detailed breakdown on Male dimorphism, indicators of health and its roles in attractiveness

been reading a lot of differing opinions on topics such as masc vs pretty boy, Feminine features vs Masculine features and more importantly what is sexual dimorphism why is it important, how important is it and so forth. To Start it off There seems to be a lot of confusion on this topic too...

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Basically something like this guys

 

[Deleted member 7027]

Accept the subhuman female gaze, resistance is futile.

 

[SeiGun]

just go onto those good looking people social media comment and follower, the type of audience should already give you the answer

 

[Deleted member 5815]

female gaze is making it all about the girl you're looking at it isn't about confidence or looks or anything like that this guy that you would call subhuman is making females go crazy because he's mastered the true female gaze

Spoiler: more

Spoiler: over for malegazers

 

[SubhumanCurrycel]

female gaze is making it all about the girl you're looking at it isn't about confidence or looks or anything like that this guy that you would call subhuman is making females go crazy because he's mastered the true female gaze


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Spoiler: over for malegazers

It’s literally virtue signalling retards, if he did this shit irl he’d be labelled a creep, short chinned balding mf tryna pull off dark triad looking face is cringe

 

[Deleted member 7027]

female gaze is making it all about the girl you're looking at it isn't about confidence or looks or anything like that this guy that you would call subhuman is making females go crazy because he's mastered the true female gaze


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Spoiler: over for malegazers

yeah, I also know a femalegazemaxxer he's a 5'3 indian with tiktok hairstyle

 

[Deleted member 7027]

It’s literally virtue signalling retards, if he did this shit irl he’d be labelled a creep, short chinned balding mf tryna pull off dark triad looking face is cringe

He can Dahmermaxx

 

[Deleted member 5815]

yeah, I also know a femalegazemaxxer he's a 5'3 indian with tiktok hairstyle

 

[SeiGun]

female gaze is making it all about the girl you're looking at it isn't about confidence or looks or anything like that this guy that you would call subhuman is making females go crazy because he's mastered the true female gaze


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Spoiler: more

Spoiler: over for malegazers

you really lose touch with normie meme if you reallity think this is female gaze

 

[Deleted member 15302]

female gaze is making it all about the girl you're looking at it isn't about confidence or looks or anything like that this guy that you would call subhuman is making females go crazy because he's mastered the true female gaze


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hes just casually funny to both men and women. good humor is seen as genetic

 

[Deleted member 5815]

hes just casually funny to both men and women. good humor is seen as genetic

yeah and he's not even trying, you can't fake having swag or being funny people can detect you're a fraud

 

[Deleted member 15302]

tiktok does not equal real life. with tiktok you can find your target audience.

are you surprised that girls from redneck/country areas tend to like guys that they can't find in real life? which happens to be feminine "subhuman" males?

even "malegaze-maxxed" roided uber-masc men that everyone can agree on are not attractive to most women find their niche of women on tiktok.

TIKTOK IS NOT REAL LIFE. IN REAL LIFE THE SLAYERS ARE TALL WHITE GUYS WITH SIGNS OF HIGH TESTOSTERONE AND SIGNS OF HEALTH

 

[Deprived]

The people you posted look closer to what “female gaze” crew find ideal

I personally agree with you and find masc prettyboys or maesthetic ideal, but I find most people who share our views aren’t part of the “male gaze” crew

 

[|Daddy_Zygos|]

you're either an ogre that appeals to +30y women or a teenage boy that appeals to sub 16 girls.

this

 

[softlysoftly]

It’s literally virtue signalling retards, if he did this shit irl he’d be labelled a creep, short chinned balding mf tryna pull off dark triad looking face is cringe

this is why I said appealing to the female gaze is all about making you an ltr cuck that has no options so the women feels secure and pretty
if you want to slay you need to stop listening to this garbage about being a twink with long hair oversized clothes and makeup

The people you posted look closer to what “female gaze” crew find ideal

I personally agree with you and find masc prettyboys or maesthetic ideal, but I find most people who share our views aren’t part of the “male gaze” crew

you don't need to be a part of any stupid crew
just try and look youthful and masculine at the same time

 

[Deleted member 7027]

this is why I said appealing to the female gaze is all about making you an ltr cuck that has no options so the women feels secure and pretty
if you want to slay you need to stop listening to this garbage about being a twink with long hair oversized clothes and makeup

you don't need to be a part of any stupid crew
just try and look youthful and masculine at the same time

ye that female gaze shit was kinda interesting and funny when it was first posted here but now this crap polluted the whole blackpill community and some gaymaxxed users here are to blame

 

[Deleted member 7027]

ppl started associating looking youthful and well-groomed with being borderline gay and femboy and metrosexual

 

[softlysoftly]

now this crap polluted the whole blackpill community and some gaymaxxed users here are to blame

thats what Im saying it literally emasculates and feminizes men which can lead in only 2 directions: becoming gay or becoming an ltr cuck
and for saying this I get called a tinfoil hat consipracy tard jfl

 

[SubhumanCurrycel]

ppl started associating looking youthful and well-groomed with being borderline gay and femboy and metrosexual

Obligatory

What is the distinction between the two then?

It's pretty clear

Indicators of Youth and Health are favoured in BOTH Sexes where as a dimorphic trait (male or female) is only favourable in ONE

This idea that certain feminine features look good on men is just dumb as a feminine feature is the antithesis of a male feature hence making the face less dimorphic and reducing its attractiveness

This is taking a caucasian face and changing the soft features such as hair minimically whilst emulating the dimorphic features
In the middle is AND meaning androgynous this is OBJECTIVELY the worst place to be in as an adult male or female as it has 0 dimorphic qualities on either side its features are an inbetween blend across the board, something you would expect from a prepubescent child, an individual with a chromosomal disorder such as intersex (Kleinfelters) or a transexual.
Many people confuse feminine/androgynous traits with indicators of Health which I'll explain later.

On the far left is closest for a male face (DOM) at least for a caucasian male, all his features from the wider bigonial, the follow cheeks, the bigger nose the wider chin, the more deepset eyes, the "boxxed off" hairline, and strong cheekbones are on the masculine side.

ANY feature you would make more "feminine" on the far left would lower his sexual attractiveness objectively
And no forward growth/not being recessed isnt dimorphic but the bone mass and ideal ratios are.

Indicators of Youth and Health are far different

They are often applicable universally across both sexes, youth is not to be confused with prepubescent features rather features indicating that the individual has signs of good health and mininmal aging given they are post puberty,

 

[Deleted member 23778]

You fucking losers spend every minute of your day with bitches rent free in your head and how you can better appeal to them, meanwhile they guzzle some other nigga's sperm

 

[Deleted member 20368]

It’s literally virtue signalling retards, if he did this shit irl he’d be labelled a creep, short chinned balding mf tryna pull off dark triad looking face is cringe

Shit it's messed up