Imagine how ISIS members feel now

[RecessedCels]

Imagine how depressing it must feel to lose all this. They were THE SHIT in 2014-2017

 

[RecessedCels]

 

[lemureater]

theres been a resurgence within ISIS. We just dont see them as much in the middle east- theyre more in africa now

 

[crazyguy]

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Imagine how depressing it must feel to lose all this. They were THE SHIT in 2014-2017

the cia created isis

 

[RecessedCels]

theres been a resurgence within ISIS. We just dont see them as much in the middle east- theyre more in africa now

Ehh but it's usually more al qaeda linked

 

[RecessedCels]

the cia created isis

no

 

[lemureater]

the cia created isis

indirectly yes

 

[VrillFatNoob24]

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Imagine how depressing it must feel to lose all this. They were THE SHIT in 2014-2017

Niggas were in a 217 vs 1, one of my old friends joined it jfl and got the others fedded

 

[Ahmed88]

They all migrated to africa or smth

 

[lemureater]

Ehh but it's usually more al qaeda linked

yes also including ISIS. 2/3 of ISIS attacks are now in africa

 

[RecessedCels]

indirectly yes

He's implying us created ISIS on purpose to destabilize the middle east

 

[Pony]

All that propaganda, beheadings, fear mongering down the pisser.

 

[RecessedCels]

Niggas were in a 217 vs 1, one of my old friends joined it jfl and got the others fedded

Coalition raped them

 

[RecessedCels]

They all migrated to africa or smth

No most of them just died

 

[crazyguy]

no

yes, they were involved with the creation of or have at least funded al qaeda, taliban and isis

 

[lemureater]

He's implying us created ISIS on purpose to destabilize the middle east

Not a horrible take since its nothing the CIA havnt done before. Theyve funded far-right terrorists all the way from Guatamala to Aghanistan. Dont put it past them. Also there were cases of american planes 'accidently' dropping supplies in ISIS controlled territory.

 

[Softmax09]

no

Are you Jewish by any chance?

 

[Ahmed88]

No most of them just died

Probably not, only the main ones, the others got captured (yet broke out), or fled

 

[RecessedCels]

yes, they were involved with the creation of or have at least funded al qaeda, taliban and isis

They funded Taliban not ISIS

 

[RecessedCels]

Not a horrible take since its nothing the CIA havnt done before. Theyve funded far-right terrorists all the way from Guatamala to Aghanistan. Dont put it past them. Also there were cases of american planes 'accidently' dropping supplies in ISIS controlled territory.

funding ISIS just would have never made any geopolitical sense at all

 

[RecessedCels]

Are you Jewish by any chance?

You're literally as retarded as Israel lovers

 

[lemureater]

funding ISIS just would have never made any geopolitical sense at all

ISIS pushed out the asad government until they were West of the Euphrates river. There was alot of sense for it

 

[RecessedCels]

Probably not, only the main ones, the others got captured (yet broke out), or fled

The actual fighters were killed. They don't want capture

 

[RecessedCels]

ISIS pushed out the asad government until they were West of the Euphrates river. There was alot of sense for it

It would make no sense to fund ISIS when they were already funding the free syrian army (which is friendly with the US) both were literal terrorists though

 

[lemureater]

It would make no sense to fund ISIS when they were already funding the free syrian army (which is friendly with the US) both were literal terrorists though

the free syrian army wasnt 1 singular group- within them there was infighting like between the kurds and the HTS. Its important to recognise that even within the American goivernment there were differing opinions on how to handle the middle east. You ofc have the pros kurdish , pro turkish , pro israeli groups (the main ones that would of benefited from a weakened Asad governmend) and the pro Iraqi government groups. So realistically there probally a mix of an attitude towards the ISIL

 

[RecessedCels]

the free syrian army wasnt 1 singular group- within them there was infighting like between the kurds and the HTS. Its important to recognise that even within the American goivernment there were differing opinions on how to handle the middle east. You ofc have the pros kurdish , pro turkish , pro israeli groups (the main ones that would of benefited from a weakened Asad governmend) and the pro Iraqi government groups. So realistically there probally a mix of an attitude towards the ISIL

Yeah they funded all sorts of groups which were fighting against Assad. Most of them weren't attacking US troops. It'd just make no sense to spend money on ISIS when there were far better choices

 

[lemureater]

Yeah they funded all sorts of groups which were fighting against Assad. Most of them weren't attacking US troops. It'd just make no sense to spend money on ISIS when there were far better choices

Far better? Bro ISIS was VERY good at fighting and recruiting- probally the best destabilising insurgency group the 21th century has seen and will ever see. But yeh i doubt the americans 'spent' money on ISIS- but its not a hot take to question if the CIA expected a ISIS to emerge from the rubbles of a ravaged Iraq following the american invasion

 

[crazyguy]

They funded Taliban not ISIS

usaid funds got intercepted by isis, but they obviously knew that was gonna happen

 

[lemureater]

usaid funds got intercepted by isis, but they obviously knew that was gonna happen

leaks happen. Maybe early on the americans alligned themselves with the movement but soon after they switched sides. They helped the YPG for a reason

 

[RecessedCels]

Far better? Bro ISIS was VERY good at fighting and recruiting- probally the best destabilising insurgency group the 21th century has seen and will ever see. But yeh i doubt the americans 'spent' money on ISIS- but its not a hot take to question if the CIA expected a ISIS to emerge from the rubbles of a ravaged Iraq following the american invasion

Yeah but there was really no way to predict that. No one could have expected the same iraqi insurgents who the US was fighting against in Iraq to be able to make any big offensives. The CIA was probably happy to see ISIS attacks in Syria but there was never any actual support

 

[littestjeff1]

an islamic state is an idea and not an ideology, it will resurface somehow in the future, they were the only state that actually followed the quran and sharia

 

[RecessedCels]

usaid funds got intercepted by isis, but they obviously knew that was gonna happen

Impossible to avoid when dealing with middle eastern countries

 

[lemureater]

Yeah but there was really no way to predict that. No one could have expected the same iraqi insurgents who the US was fighting against in Iraq to be able to make any big offensives. The CIA was probably happy to see ISIS attacks in Syria but there was never any actual support

the US indirectly supported them through weakening the Asad government and through 'accidental' supply drops tho

 

[littestjeff1]

the US indirectly supported them through weakening the Asad government and through 'accidental' supply drops tho

coping shia

 

[lemureater]

an islamic state is an idea and not an ideology, it will resurface somehow in the future, they were the only state that actually followed the quran and sharia

Salafism is what ISIS believed in, stop yapping they didnt follow Sharia and they didnt follow the Quran

 

[lemureater]

coping shia

not even a muslim

 

[crazyguy]

Impossible to avoid when dealing with middle eastern countries

yes, thats why its a direct funding
thats like leaving a monkey with a grenade and being surprised that it explodes

why would you send money if you know it'll 100% get intercepted

 

[RecessedCels]

the US indirectly supported them through weakening the Asad government and through 'accidental' supply drops tho

Well then ISIS indirectly supporting NATO by weakening the assad government. The west wanted Assad to fall

 

[RecessedCels]

yes, thats why its a direct funding
thats like leaving a monkey with a grenade and being surprised that it explodes

why would you send money if you know it'll 100% get intercepted

because most of it wasn't intercepted

 

[crazyguy]

because most of it wasn't intercepted

proof

 

[Notcel]

I used to be scared to type isis on google

 

[KD6Imp33]

He's implying us created ISIS on purpose to destabilize the middle east

That's what they did you brainwashed shithead.
It's what they always do, create a strawman, then point the finger at it.

 

[littestjeff1]

Salafism is what ISIS believed in, stop yapping they didnt follow Sharia and they didnt follow the Quran

they followed the quran and sharia literally

beheadings are part of islam
people should be punished in this life for the actions they have commited

half of isis was made up of foreigners who wanted to establish an islamic state

isis primarily fought cia funded groups, why would the cia fund isis? all assad did was persecute sunni muslims

 

[lemureater]

they followed the quran and sharia literally

beheadings are part of islam
people should be punished in this life for the actions they have commited

half of isis was made up of foreigners who wanted to establish an islamic state

isis primarily fought cia funded groups, why would the cia fund isis? all assad did was persecute sunni muslims

religion is nuanced therefore no person can perfectly follow their religion. Ive already explained in my previous replies why the CIA would wanna fund them

 

[WickedNazarene]

ISIS still have terrirorty, the mossad and CIA headquarters being them

 

[WickedNazarene]

religion is nuanced therefore no person can perfectly follow their religion. Ive already explained in my previous replies why the CIA would wanna fund them

This guy gets it. He actually understands how the US funds their radical takfiri ideology in the school of salafism in order to create fitna amongst muslims

 

[WickedNazarene]

they followed the quran and sharia literally

beheadings are part of islam
people should be punished in this life for the actions they have commited

half of isis was made up of foreigners who wanted to establish an islamic state

isis primarily fought cia funded groups, why would the cia fund isis? all assad did was persecute sunni muslims

They did not follow the quran lol what bullshit. The Rashidun caliphates let christians keep their religion and were very adamant about it

 

[littestjeff1]

religion is nuanced therefore no person can perfectly follow their religion. Ive already explained in my previous replies why the CIA would wanna fund them

the cia primarily tried to bring the middle east back to normalities because assad was the most predictable player. the united states was bombing thousands of isis targets, supported their enemies, yet at the same time supported them because of internal confusion? how does this make sense?

qatar uae and saudi arabia supported sahwat groups that fought isis, the united states supported SLA which fought isis. isis gained weapons from stockpiles plundered in iraq and syria. tawheed and jihad front and other orgs were constantly fighting in iraq. people like al zarqawi fought in reaction to shiite forces joining the united states and persecuting sunni muslims.

isis would not exist if there was no persecution of sunni muslims after the western occupation in the middle east.

 

[lemureater]

the cia primarily tried to bring the middle east back to normalities because assad was the most predictable player. the united states was bombing thousands of isis targets, supported their enemies, yet at the same time supported them because of internal confusion? how does this make sense?

qatar uae and saudi arabia supported sahwat groups that fought isis, the united states supported SLA which fought isis. isis gained weapons from stockpiles plundered in iraq and syria. tawheed and jihad front and other orgs were constantly fighting in iraq. people like al zarqawi fought in reaction to shiite forces joining the united states and persecuting sunni muslims.

isis would not exist if there was no persecution of sunni muslims after the western occupation in the middle east.

read my previous posts again

 

[littestjeff1]

This guy gets it. He actually understands how the US funds their radical takfiri ideology in the school of salafism in order to create fitna amongst muslims

shias are not muslim

They did not follow the quran lol what bullshit. The Rashidun caliphates let christians keep their religion and were very adamant about it

isis did not persecute christians, they persecuted those who did not follow the sharia and rebelled against the islamic state. many christians were happy because of isis occupation because they removed all crime and thugs from the street.