Dastan
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METHODS:
- I will take the most "perfect" mogger there currently is - Jock Mogger v2, which i consider High Tier CHAD:
(I created him and already improved his appearance a bit for this article, check this out btw - https://looksmax.org/threads/meet-the-first-synthetic-digital-ultimate-psl-mogger.1405187/ )
Also, I'm pretty sure a lot of you will say he is too ogre, so here is a more feminine version (for the "female gaze" copers). As you can see (i hope), he looks considerably worse:
So I'll better use the "ogre" version as a reference.
I will only use facial features relevant for the front this time. So, no such important facial features for the side profile as:
- Side nose shape
- Gonial angle
- Facial convexity
- Etc.
All of his front facial features (at least the most important ones) are textbook perfect.
I will use a list of the most important facial features for male facial attractiveness I created earlier (and also figure out how actually relevant it is in the process):
- Top 10 facial features article:
www.ascendbase.pro
- YouTube video:
Everything else not mentioned in this list is automatically considered even less important than the least important facial feature from this list, like: neck width, browridge, temporal width and specific facial ratios + more complex concepts like dimoprhism (because it involves multiple individual facial features that are already in the list anyways)
I will morph each facial features into an "undesirable state" and visually compare it to the "perfect" original to evaluate the difference = relative importance of that facial feature. The undesirable state would be just around the LTN tier, so no extremely unattractive and deformed facial features, just statistically below average is enough. So in theory if the person got all the "undesirable state" features he'd be somewhere around low LTN to mid LTN and NOT literally 0/10, keep that in mind.
VISUALIZATION / EVALUATION:
- IMPORTANCE TIER 3 - NOT THAT MUCH IMPACT ON ATTRACTIVENESS - RELATIVELY NOT SO IMPORTANT
10. Midface (longer):
VS
(I know this sounds controversial for midface to be placed so low on the importance scale, but this facial feature value is indeed overrated, so this is expected for me. Cos longer midface alone, without commonly subsequent features as bad shape nose, fucked middle facial height to lower facial height ratio (which I increased to maintain the ratio the same as in the original pic), narrow and thin looking face, general facial recession pattern and etc. Just longer midface alone is NOT even looking worse that much. Look at the pics, he almost looks the same, less aesthetic ngl, but literally the same smv wise)
9. Facial symmetry:
VS
(As expected - relatively not so important. He looks A LOT different ngl, but what's important - not much worse)
8. Skin quality:
VS
(Kinda ruins some appeal in the moment of actively having it and it's relatively easy to fix = a bit of hopefuel)
7.5 Eyebrows:
VS
(I know this will prob trigger some debate (I assume everyone thinks it's more important than I currently placed it) but when I compare this one I don't see how he loses barely any "true chad" appeal, I'd say he maybe looks more weird. Looks different in a way of a different pheno or like different hair color type of change, but not specifically less attractive, idk maybe it's just me?)
- IMPORTANCE TIER 2 - NOTICEABLE WORSE - KIND OF IMPORTANT
7. Facial angularity:
VS
(This is REALLY unexpected for me, cos I considered facial angularity as one of the most important feature, but when i compare these 2, he kinda maintains his appeal, so im putting this one as not so important as I previously thought)
6. Health and youth indicators (in avg. young men, not taking literally obvious signs of aging) - noticeable worse - kind of important tbh
VS
5. Mouth and lips - noticeable worse - kind of important tbh
VS
(This doesn't look that different at the first glance to be placed so important as 5th place, but the edited one has some really evident, visual "ick" moment when you look at it, that goes in some serious enough conflict with a textbook chad appeal imo)
- IMPORTANCE TIER 1 - SO MUCH WORSE HE AIN'T EVEN CHAD NO MORE - VERY IMPORTANT
(This is where things go kinda against the common "psl truths")
4. Eyes:
VS
(Extremely unexpected, cos he still looks quite alright in comparison to the further facial features tweaks, so I have no actual reason to put it any more important than 4th place, idk. And yeah the eyes are actually morphed into LTN tier, zoom in. I would even say that if we ask a regular female gaze coper, he'd put EYES as NOT IMPORTANT at all (lmao), maybe even say it mogs the original, but that's bs, so let's move on)
3. Nose - a lot worse - very important
VS
(Once again - SO FUCKING UNEXPECTED. The nose being in the TOP 3 most important facial features? (MORE IMPORTANT THAN... EYES, WTF?) But look at the pics - he looks a lot worse, don't you think? Or it's just me? The morphed nose isn't even that bad on its own. It's not extremely wide, long or crooked, it's quite alright, literally like low or even mid mtn tier nose)
2. Facial width - a lot worse - very important
VS
(This is quite unexpected. Facial width being the 2nd most important? (keep in mind It's not even jaw definition and stuff, just a lower end of bizygomatic and bigonial width. But man, he does look so much worse, can't deny that)
1.5 Balanced ratio of Upper Facial Height (not the forehead, but what you consider middle facial third) to Lower Facial Height
VS
(???. Turns out, this ratio being balanced is almost the most important facial feature one could have - tweaking it completely ruins his chad appeal)
- THE SINGLE MOST IMPORTANT FACIAL FEATURE (leanmaxing motivation)
1. Facial leanness - extremely important:
VS
(At least this is what I expected - the most important facial feature, like I previously thought)
INSIGHTS AND CONCLUSIONS:
- Only features of tier 1 importance (1-4) can significantly reduce the attractiveness.
- Bad eyes can still significantly reduce the attractiveness, BUT not to an extent it is expected - much less. He is still somewhere around chad tier with bad eyes.
- Midface height (longer) or lower MFR alone is not important. Very little smv decrease, if any, but looks less aesthetic (nobody will call the morphed midface cute, but it's rather a positive sign).
- On the other hand - balanced heights of middle facial third (which basically = midface height) and lower facial third (feature number 1.5) is EXTREMELY IMPORTANT.
- Eyebrows are not much important (imo).
- Nose is very important, relatively to how underrated it currently is in psl communities.
- The single most important facial feature is one of the easiest to fix + you can do it nonsurgically - facial leanness = just lose bf% (significant hopefuel).
- I will take the most "perfect" mogger there currently is - Jock Mogger v2, which i consider High Tier CHAD:
(I created him and already improved his appearance a bit for this article, check this out btw - https://looksmax.org/threads/meet-the-first-synthetic-digital-ultimate-psl-mogger.1405187/ )
Also, I'm pretty sure a lot of you will say he is too ogre, so here is a more feminine version (for the "female gaze" copers). As you can see (i hope), he looks considerably worse:
So I'll better use the "ogre" version as a reference.
I will only use facial features relevant for the front this time. So, no such important facial features for the side profile as:
- Side nose shape
- Gonial angle
- Facial convexity
- Etc.
All of his front facial features (at least the most important ones) are textbook perfect.
I will use a list of the most important facial features for male facial attractiveness I created earlier (and also figure out how actually relevant it is in the process):
- Top 10 facial features article:
Looksmaxing Resources
www.ascendbase.pro
Everything else not mentioned in this list is automatically considered even less important than the least important facial feature from this list, like: neck width, browridge, temporal width and specific facial ratios + more complex concepts like dimoprhism (because it involves multiple individual facial features that are already in the list anyways)
I will morph each facial features into an "undesirable state" and visually compare it to the "perfect" original to evaluate the difference = relative importance of that facial feature. The undesirable state would be just around the LTN tier, so no extremely unattractive and deformed facial features, just statistically below average is enough. So in theory if the person got all the "undesirable state" features he'd be somewhere around low LTN to mid LTN and NOT literally 0/10, keep that in mind.
VISUALIZATION / EVALUATION:
- IMPORTANCE TIER 3 - NOT THAT MUCH IMPACT ON ATTRACTIVENESS - RELATIVELY NOT SO IMPORTANT
10. Midface (longer):
(I know this sounds controversial for midface to be placed so low on the importance scale, but this facial feature value is indeed overrated, so this is expected for me. Cos longer midface alone, without commonly subsequent features as bad shape nose, fucked middle facial height to lower facial height ratio (which I increased to maintain the ratio the same as in the original pic), narrow and thin looking face, general facial recession pattern and etc. Just longer midface alone is NOT even looking worse that much. Look at the pics, he almost looks the same, less aesthetic ngl, but literally the same smv wise)
9. Facial symmetry:
(As expected - relatively not so important. He looks A LOT different ngl, but what's important - not much worse)
8. Skin quality:
(Kinda ruins some appeal in the moment of actively having it and it's relatively easy to fix = a bit of hopefuel)
7.5 Eyebrows:
(I know this will prob trigger some debate (I assume everyone thinks it's more important than I currently placed it) but when I compare this one I don't see how he loses barely any "true chad" appeal, I'd say he maybe looks more weird. Looks different in a way of a different pheno or like different hair color type of change, but not specifically less attractive, idk maybe it's just me?)
- IMPORTANCE TIER 2 - NOTICEABLE WORSE - KIND OF IMPORTANT
7. Facial angularity:
(This is REALLY unexpected for me, cos I considered facial angularity as one of the most important feature, but when i compare these 2, he kinda maintains his appeal, so im putting this one as not so important as I previously thought)
6. Health and youth indicators (in avg. young men, not taking literally obvious signs of aging) - noticeable worse - kind of important tbh
5. Mouth and lips - noticeable worse - kind of important tbh
(This doesn't look that different at the first glance to be placed so important as 5th place, but the edited one has some really evident, visual "ick" moment when you look at it, that goes in some serious enough conflict with a textbook chad appeal imo)
- IMPORTANCE TIER 1 - SO MUCH WORSE HE AIN'T EVEN CHAD NO MORE - VERY IMPORTANT
(This is where things go kinda against the common "psl truths")
4. Eyes:
(Extremely unexpected, cos he still looks quite alright in comparison to the further facial features tweaks, so I have no actual reason to put it any more important than 4th place, idk. And yeah the eyes are actually morphed into LTN tier, zoom in. I would even say that if we ask a regular female gaze coper, he'd put EYES as NOT IMPORTANT at all (lmao), maybe even say it mogs the original, but that's bs, so let's move on)
3. Nose - a lot worse - very important
(Once again - SO FUCKING UNEXPECTED. The nose being in the TOP 3 most important facial features? (MORE IMPORTANT THAN... EYES, WTF?) But look at the pics - he looks a lot worse, don't you think? Or it's just me? The morphed nose isn't even that bad on its own. It's not extremely wide, long or crooked, it's quite alright, literally like low or even mid mtn tier nose)
2. Facial width - a lot worse - very important
(This is quite unexpected. Facial width being the 2nd most important? (keep in mind It's not even jaw definition and stuff, just a lower end of bizygomatic and bigonial width. But man, he does look so much worse, can't deny that)
1.5 Balanced ratio of Upper Facial Height (not the forehead, but what you consider middle facial third) to Lower Facial Height
(???. Turns out, this ratio being balanced is almost the most important facial feature one could have - tweaking it completely ruins his chad appeal)
- THE SINGLE MOST IMPORTANT FACIAL FEATURE (leanmaxing motivation)
1. Facial leanness - extremely important:
(At least this is what I expected - the most important facial feature, like I previously thought)
INSIGHTS AND CONCLUSIONS:
- Only features of tier 1 importance (1-4) can significantly reduce the attractiveness.
- Bad eyes can still significantly reduce the attractiveness, BUT not to an extent it is expected - much less. He is still somewhere around chad tier with bad eyes.
- Midface height (longer) or lower MFR alone is not important. Very little smv decrease, if any, but looks less aesthetic (nobody will call the morphed midface cute, but it's rather a positive sign).
- On the other hand - balanced heights of middle facial third (which basically = midface height) and lower facial third (feature number 1.5) is EXTREMELY IMPORTANT.
- Eyebrows are not much important (imo).
- Nose is very important, relatively to how underrated it currently is in psl communities.
- The single most important facial feature is one of the easiest to fix + you can do it nonsurgically - facial leanness = just lose bf% (significant hopefuel).
