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Post by Lucas88 » July 24th, 2023, 10:51 am
Modern European populations are the result of intermixing between three main prehistoric ancestral populations: Western Hunter-Gatherers, Anatolian Farmers, and Yamnaya Steppe Pastoralists.
Western Hunter-Gatherers
WHGs are the earliest known inhabitants of Europe. They are believed to have entered the continent around 45,000 years ago and relied on hunting wild game, fishing and foraging for subsistence. These groups left behind a rich archeological record, including cave paintings and figurines.
WHGs had a curious phenotype. Genetic analysis shows that they had genes for dark skin but at the same time blue eyes. They also seem to have been more robust than modern Europeans.
Donna del Caviglione (aka Lady of Cavillon) represented above measured 6'2" and was a statuesque Amazon of a woman. She is believed to have lived 24,000 years ago.
The above is Pataud Woman, found in Aquitaine in the southwest of France. She is believed to have lived 17,000 years ago.
Anatolian Farmers
AFs entered Europe from the Middle East via the Anatolian Peninsula some 8,000-9,000 years ago. As their name suggests, they brought with them agriculture, crops such as wheat and barley, and domesticated animals such as sheep and goats.
AFs had a phenotype which we today might consider Mediterranean or Southern European. They were slighter than other prehistoric ancestral populations in Europe, had lighter skin relative to the indigenous Western Hunter-Gatherers (mostly an olive skin complexion), and had brown eyes. The AF genetic component is the most prominent in Southern European populations such as Greeks, Albanians, Sardinians, and various types of Italians.
These AFs quickly outnumbered and intermixed with the indigenous Western Hunter-Gatherer populations and spread their sedentary agricultural lifestyle throughout most of Europe. The hybrid population which would result from this was the Early European Farmers (EEF). However, due to numerical superiority, the AF component would be dominant.
Anatolian Farmer woman found in Gibraltar in the Iberian Peninsula:
Early European Farmer (hybrid) woman found in Ballynahatty, Northern Ireland:
Yamnaya Steppe Pastoralists
Yamnayas were a subgroup of Indo-Europeans or "Aryans" who entered Europe from the Pontic-Caspian Steppe some 4,000-5,000 years ago. They were pastoralists and skilled horsemen who had domesticated Central Asian horses and even developed chariots. Some interpretations depict them as fierce and unparalleled warriors and describe their entry into Europe as an incredibly barbaric event. However, much about the Yamnaya people is still open to debate.
Contrary to popular belief, the original Yamnayas weren't light-skinned or blond-haired. They tended to have darker or intermediate skin tone and brown eyes, possibly resembling modern Northern Indians. The genes for light skin and blond hair might have entered the Yamnaya people at a later stage of their development through intermixing with Ancient North Eurasians (ANE) who migrated westward from Northern Siberia.
The Yamnaya people are believed to have been particularly tall and well-built. Some of the males were colossal.
The Yamnaya people brought the Indo-European languages into Europe.
This big burly fella, who looks like a slightly lighter-skinned version of the Iron Sheik, measured 6'6"!!! Some of these powerful horseman warriors would have been absolutely terrifying!!!
Conclusion
The above three prehistoric ancestral populations are the basic elements which mixed together to form modern European populations. However, the degree of admixture differs significantly by region, with some populations having more Anatolian Farmer ancestry (e.g., Southern Europeans and Sardinians in particular) and others having more Yamnaya ancestry (e.g., Germanics and Baltics).
Of course, all of the above is somewhat of a simplification of the real situation. In reality, certain other prehistoric ancestral populations further contributed to the development of some modern Europeans such as the Ancient Northern Eurasians (ANE) whom I touched upon momentarily and there also emerged localized population clusters such as the Eastern Hunter-Gatherers (EHG) and Scandinavian Hunter-Gatherers (SHG).
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Lucas88Experienced PosterPosts: 1779Joined:April 24th, 2022, 1:06 pm
Re: Prehistoric Ancestral Populations
Post by Lucas88 » July 24th, 2023, 11:05 amI decided to make a thread on this topic because I explained the different genetic components of modern Europeans to @WilliamSmith in another thread and @69ixine also mentioned the topic. I thought that we could get into prehistoric ancestral populations in much greater detail right here.
The prehistory of European populations is undoubtedly a fascinating topic.
Which phenotypic characteristics of each of the prehistoric ancestral populations do you see in the various nationalities of modern Europeans?
Also just for fun:
Which features from the prehistoric ancestral populations do you find the most attractive and which had the hottest women?
Which prehistoric ancestral population do you identify with spiritually?
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Lucas88Experienced PosterPosts: 1779Joined:April 24th, 2022, 1:06 pm
Re: Prehistoric Ancestral Populations
Post by Lucas88 » July 24th, 2023, 12:11 pmSome more prehistoric ancestral populations which influenced the development of certain modern European people groups:
Eastern Hunter-Gatherers
EHGs were the result of intermixing between Europe's original Western Hunter-Gatherers (WHG) and Ancient North Eurasians (ANE) from Northeastern Siberia, with the ANE ancestry being predominant. EHGs inhabited a vast region between the Dnieper to the West and the Urals to the East.
It is believed that the ANEs who greatly contributed their genetic material to the EHG population brought with them the genes for light skin and blond hair. Because of this the EHGs were whiter than the Western Hunter-Gatherers and resembled more closely the Eastern and Northern Europeans that we know today.
Scandinavian Hunter-Gatherers
SHGs in turn were the result of intermixing between Western Hunter-Gatherers who migrated north following the recession of the ice sheets from around 12,000 before present and Eastern Hunter-Gatherers who migrated westward into Scandinavia. These are the indigenous ancestors of modern Nordic people.
SHG reconstructions:
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69ixineJunior PosterPosts: 977Joined:November 11th, 2017, 2:09 pm
Re: Prehistoric Ancestral Populations
Post by 69ixine » July 24th, 2023, 12:12 pmAnatolian/levantine farmer women are the hottest,since nerdic women are blah.
I like farmers most.
my maternal lineage/haplotype is from the iberomaurasians,proud to say.
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69ixineJunior PosterPosts: 977Joined:November 11th, 2017, 2:09 pm
Re: Prehistoric Ancestral Populations
Post by 69ixine » July 24th, 2023, 12:22 pmSpaniard women are moroccans mixed with indo europeans in small amounts.they both come from the iberomaurasian culture.I find iberomaurasians most attractive,this girl has that typical moroccan iberomaurasian phenotype
many moroccan and spaniard women have a phenotype that approaches this
it's my favorite pheno on women.
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69ixineJunior PosterPosts: 977Joined:November 11th, 2017, 2:09 pm
Re: Prehistoric Ancestral Populations
Post by 69ixine » July 24th, 2023, 12:29 pmSHG women are ugly brunhildes!
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Lucas88Experienced PosterPosts: 1779Joined:April 24th, 2022, 1:06 pm
Re: Prehistoric Ancestral Populations
Post by Lucas88 » July 24th, 2023, 2:10 pmAn interesting short article about the Anatolian farmer population who arrived in the British Isles around 4,000 BCE and built Stonehenge:
Source: https://www.ancient-origins.net/news-hi ... rs-0011756
Here is a reconstruction of an Anatolian Farmer woman from the British Isles and related to the culture which built Stonehenge:
She is Whitehawk Woman. She lived in present-day Sussex around 5,600 years ago.
As the article above explains, the Anatolian Farmers, who form the basis of the various Mediterranean populations today, largely displaced the indigenous Western Hunter-Gatherers in the British Isles (except in Western Scotland). Also, their incursion into the region occurred at least 1000 years before the Yamnaya/Aryan expansion into Europe. Those people were therefore mostly pure Anatolian Farmers/Mediterraneans with little to no external admixture.
The same Anatolian Farmers who arrived in the British Isles around 4,000 BCE seem to be the most brilliant and inventive of the three main prehistoric ancestral populations. Unlike the Western Hunter-Gatherers who lived a primitive lifestyle, this newcomer population quickly spread agriculture throughout much of the continent and even erected great mysterious megaliths such as Stonehenge as cited in the text. Perhaps they were descendants of the people with advanced construction and engineering who built Göbekli Tepe in southeastern Turkey? Anyway, this prehistoric ancestral population in particular seems to have been the most brilliant. A big deal is often made about the Yamnaya Steppe Pastoralists or Indo-European "Aryans" who expanded into Europe after 3,000 BCE but the Anatolian-derived populations seem to have been more culturally advanced.
Curiously, it was the various Mediterranean populations with a higher concentration of Anatolian Farmer ancestry who built the most advanced civilizations in early Europe. The Minoans, Mycenaean Greeks and Etruscans all derived predominantly from AFs. Is this what @69ixine was talking about when he mentioned "Med supremacy" in his recent discussion with @WilliamSmith?
69ixine, I likewise always identified a Mediterranean origin of European civilization despite being of predominantly Northern European ancestry myself. The Minoans, Greeks, Etruscans and eventually the Romans were considerably more advanced than Northern and Eastern Europeans who were seen as "Barbarians" in ancient time. I've always regarded Mediterranean civilization as superior and it seems that this cultural superiority goes all the way back to the incursion of the Anatolian Farmers.
As for the Anatolian Farmer woman from Sussex included in the photo above, if British women still looked like that today with beautiful Anatolian/Mediterranean features and nice tanned olive/light-brown skin, then I would have been more than happy to date and sleep with British girls and wouldn't have had to set my sights of the women of a distant continent just to date and get laid. The woman in the photo looks soft, feminine and beautiful as well as good wife material. Unfortunately, British women were ruined by the massive influx of Eastern admixture and ended up with ghastly pale skin and too many ugly mannish features. Not trying to sound mean or anything, just giving my subjective opinion.
With regard to the Yamnaya/"Aryan" people who were originally dark-skinned and with brown eyes and who entered Europe from the Pontic-Caspian Steppe, what do you think their origins were, @69ixine? Could they have been an offshoot of the Vedic people who for some reason separated from their original civilization and entered Central Asia and then Europe bringing a corrupted form of the Vedic religion and what would ultimately become the various Indo-European Pagan religions of Europe? Indian intellectual Abhijit Chavda, who supports the Out-of-Indian Hypothesis, holds this view and theorizes that the Indo-European Steppe population descended from wayward Kshatriyas who had either abandoned or been expelled from the lands of the Indic culture sphere.
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Lucas88Experienced PosterPosts: 1779Joined:April 24th, 2022, 1:06 pm
Re: Prehistoric Ancestral Populations
Post by Lucas88 » July 24th, 2023, 2:54 pm@69ixine, we all know that the Yamnaya Steppe Pastoralists brought the ancestor of the Indo-European languages into Europe and that this would in turn become Baltic, Slavic, Germanic, Greek, Italic, Celtic, etc., but with which prehistoric ancestral populations did the other non-IE languages of Europe develop?
The Anatolian Farmers might have spoken Tyrsenian/Tyrrhenian languages like the Etruscan of the Anatolian-derived people of Etruria (modern-day Tuscany) and eastern Corsica and the Lemnian spoken in the Aegean. The Minoan language might have belonged to this language family.
What about the Basque-like languages of pre-IE Europe? Were they spoken by Anatolian Farmers too or did those come from the indigenous Western Hunter-Gatherers? The Anatolian Farmers who arrived in the British Isles around 4,000 BCE entered Britain via the Iberian Peninsula and then Northwestern France. I once read that the early British people who would eventually become the Celts had Basque origins and spoke a Basque-like language before an Indo-European Celtic elite imposed their own language on the majority. Could the Basque-like language have been brought from the Iberian Peninsula by the Anatolian Farmers? If so, would this link the Basque-like languages to the Tyrsenian/Tyrrhenian languages?
Finally, what about the Finno-Ugric languages such as Hungarian, Finnish and Estonian? Is it true that those non-IE languages were brought into Europe by the Ancient Northern Eurasians (ANE) who migrated westward? Curiously, Hungarian's closest linguistic relatives are the Mansi and Khanty languages spoken in Siberia.
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69ixineJunior PosterPosts: 977Joined:November 11th, 2017, 2:09 pm
Re: Prehistoric Ancestral Populations
Post by 69ixine » July 24th, 2023, 3:04 pm@Lucas88 this is how british women would look without yamnaya dna
You see why we must fight white colonialism?all the sexpats are gonna bleach the world out to look like brunhildes.
