IRL rating is the only rating that matters.

[yonmaxxed]

forget psl and all that dumb bullshit, seriously, why would you care more about high psl than high irl appeal??

plus psl entire system is retarded. it only goes up to 8 for some fucking reason, scratch that, it reminds me of that one southpark episode where randy marsh makes a whole equation to make his 4.5 inch cock "technically" be 6 inch.

just get out and socialize idk man, almost no one here would get picked up as a model and quite frankly why would you want to become one anyways.

this isn't even a blue pill, if 5% of girls find you attractive enough to fuck (5% is a small goddamn number if you're normal looking it should be a good chunk anyways) and you talk to 100 girls you'll still fuck 5 girls.

perfect example is barrett. high "psl" but i can see like 10% of girls fawning over him and the other 90% going "ew faggot".

also your favorite model probably views you as a miserable cockroach parasite to society.

 

[everythingisacope]

PS

forget psl and all that dumb bullshit, seriously, why would you care more about high psl than high irl appeal??

plus psl entire system is retarded. it only goes up to 8 for some fucking reason, scratch that, it reminds me of that one southpark episode where randy marsh makes a whole equation to make his 4.5 inch cock "technically" be 6 inch.

just get out and socialize idk man, almost no one here would get picked up as a model and quite frankly why would you want to become one anyways.

this isn't even a blue pill, if 5% of girls find you attractive enough to fuck (5% is a small goddamn number if you're normal looking it should be a good chunk anyways) and you talk to 100 girls you'll still fuck 5 girls.

perfect example is barrett. high "psl" but i can see like 10% of girls fawning over him and the other 90% going "ew faggot".

also your favorite model probably views you as a miserable cockroach parasite to society.

PSL system goes up to 8 as a scale to gauge the way women would rate you since that okcupid study who found out that 80% are below average and shit.

 

[yonmaxxed]

PS

PSL system goes up to 8 as a scale to gauge the way women would rate you since that okcupid study who found out that 80% are below average and shit.

with that calculation i'm like a 4 irl rated by looksmax users and 6psl rated by girls irl lol.

also don't see how the 80% has anything to do with the psl rating being up to 8 and not to 10, doesn't that just mean that to be in the 20% u gotta be average or above?

 

[everythingisacope]

with that calculation i'm like a 4 irl rated by looksmax users and 6psl rated by girls irl lol.

also don't see how the 80% has anything to do with the psl rating being up to 8 and not to 10, doesn't that just mean that to be in the 20% u gotta be average or above?

you got rated 2 PSL?
hence 80% are below average that means that 20% are average or above.5 PSL means 7/10 IRL and 20% of all people therefore must be within the 5-8 PSL bracket.
Also you know the PSL rating system is not that accurate for irl sex appeal.Only the girls you got matters.As for normies rating you, that's some bullshit.Most percieve 5/10 as being ugly when in fact that's average so I would not want to hear too much of that either.

 

[yonmaxxed]

you got rated 2 PSL?
hence 80% are below average that means that 20% are average or above.5 PSL means 7/10 IRL and 20% of all people therefore must be within the 5-8 PSL bracket.
Also you know the PSL rating system is not that accurate for irl sex appeal.Only the girls you got matters.As for normies rating you, that's some bullshit.Most percieve 5/10 as being ugly when in fact that's average so I would not want to hear too much of that either.

yeah lol i don't think psl is that accurate if i got fucking 2, made a post and used some shitty pics with an insanely bad pic.

and yeah i somewhat can see it happening but also can't, like 80% can't be below average because then it's not actually average, statistically speaking lol.

i think normies and htn are udually dping very well in society and are underrated as fuck here, but anything below normal normie is somewhat of a death tier.

problem occures when people mistake genuine chads to be htn and terra chads to be simple normal chads, all while comparing them to models.

using the scewed rating of psl users here the average psl of the average person will be 2 - 3, and chadlites will be 5. it's just dumb.

 

[everythingisacope]

yeah lol i don't think psl is that accurate if i got fucking 2, made a post and used some shitty pics with an insanely bad pic.

and yeah i somewhat can see it happening but also can't, like 80% can't be below average because then it's not actually average, statistically speaking lol.

i think normies and htn are udually dping very well in society and are underrated as fuck here, but anything below normal normie is somewhat of a death tier.

problem occures when people mistake genuine chads to be htn and terra chads to be simple normal chads, all while comparing them to models.

using the scewed rating of psl users here the average psl of the average person will be 2 - 3, and chadlites will be 5. it's just dumb.

normies get shadowed on tinder and won't have ons that easy

 

[yonmaxxed]

normies get shadowed on tinder and won't have ons that easy

that's fair but if they actually go outside they'll have a really good chance, even at pulling one night stands if they get good game in nightclubs etc, or bars.

a lot of girls will say that even tho they're ugly/average they deserve a handsome guy, but that's just insecurity of them being the way they are and being a hivemind with their other ugly/average peers. looksmatched people will always have it kicking if communication is good, unless one of them is truly dillusional.

tinder means beyond shit tho, girls there are actual whores, a lot of things there are death sentences like height, dick, muscles etc. basically making the man some sort of a flashy product.

most girls i saw on tinder that i knew irl were the ones that either didn't have good social lives or were just avg/bad looking.

imo when giving girls any power and choice they both don't know what they really want and then just try to get what society tells them is best. then you end up with 5'2 girls dating a guy a whole foot taller than them like he's their dad or something (possible daddy issues)

and the hivemind of 6' of above (which almost everyone irl frauds like 2 inches. and people don't guesstimate very well. i'm 5'8 and people think i'm 5'9 - 5'10. my dick's like 5-6 inches depends on bpel or nbpel and girls have been saying it's 7-8 inches.

another tinder factor is that you can't see them in motion.

in motion harmony matters far more than psl. no doubt. a person with average bones but crazy good harmony will have major success while one with avg harmony but good bones won't as much.

then you have those who have both good bones and harmony. had a person like that in highschool back in the days, dude was my height (5'7 at the time) and he was absolutely fawned over by pretty much 90% of girls. face > height.

 

[everythingisacope]

my dick's like 5-6 inches depends on bpel or nbpel and girls have been saying it's 7-8 inches.

damn these hoes delusional in every aspect

 

[everythingisacope]

that's fair but if they actually go outside they'll have a really good chance, even at pulling one night stands if they get good game in nightclubs etc, or bars.

a lot of girls will say that even tho they're ugly/average they deserve a handsome guy, but that's just insecurity of them being the way they are and being a hivemind with their other ugly/average peers. looksmatched people will always have it kicking if communication is good, unless one of them is truly dillusional.

tinder means beyond shit tho, girls there are actual whores, a lot of things there are death sentences like height, dick, muscles etc. basically making the man some sort of a flashy product.

most girls i saw on tinder that i knew irl were the ones that either didn't have good social lives or were just avg/bad looking.

imo when giving girls any power and choice they both don't know what they really want and then just try to get what society tells them is best. then you end up with 5'2 girls dating a guy a whole foot taller than them like he's their dad or something (possible daddy issues)

and the hivemind of 6' of above (which almost everyone irl frauds like 2 inches. and people don't guesstimate very well. i'm 5'8 and people think i'm 5'9 - 5'10. my dick's like 5-6 inches depends on bpel or nbpel and girls have been saying it's 7-8 inches.

another tinder factor is that you can't see them in motion.

in motion harmony matters far more than psl. no doubt. a person with average bones but crazy good harmony will have major success while one with avg harmony but good bones won't as much.

then you have those who have both good bones and harmony. had a person like that in highschool back in the days, dude was my height (5'7 at the time) and he was absolutely fawned over by pretty much 90% of girls. face > height.

ofc if u have good face and harmony body and height get less important but as a 5/10 you need to take as much as you can

 

[yonmaxxed]

ofc if u have good face and harmony body and height get less important but as a 5/10 you need to take as much as you can

i guess 5/10 is subjective tho, if girls rate me 8/10 and pslfags rate me 2-3psl but 7 irl.

but yeah i get you, i do have plans to get some bones

 

[everythingisacope]

i guess 5/10 is subjective tho, if girls rate me 8/10 and pslfags rate me 2-3psl but 7 irl.

but yeah i get you, i do have plans to get some bones

post a normal pic no fraud

 

[SendMePicsToRate]

i guess 5/10 is subjective tho, if girls rate me 8/10 and pslfags rate me 2-3psl but 7 irl.

but yeah i get you, i do have plans to get some bones

You claim that IRL rating is all that matters when you literally look like you just crawled out of a bush. Seriously don't even bother posting your pics here if you aren't even self aware enough to know you have poor grooming.

 

[yonmaxxed]

You claim that IRL rating is all that matters when you literally look like you just crawled out of a bush. Seriously don't even bother posting your pics here if you aren't even self aware enough to know you have poor grooming.

boohoo

 

[Deleted member 5927]

Exactly. 1-10 is all that matters and how you appeal to bitches is key. Imagine caring what internet ethnics say.

 

[SendMePicsToRate]

boohoo

I mean you have brows that are too tall vertically so should be groomed with a eyebrow razer and shaped (look at eyebrow maxxing thread on here for reference)

Your beard has sparse growth on your cheeks so either stick to minox or just shave it and get something to trim the length on chin and moustache to a normal length or just shave it all off.

Your hair is just plain uninteresting

Eyebags which you really need to fix, either get enough sleep or get some fillers it makes you look tired and significantly older.

Your posture is god awful.

Could probably cut down body fat more so we can see your jaw.

Not crying I look better than you

 

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You claim that IRL rating is all that matters when you literally look like you just crawled out of a bush. Seriously don't even bother posting your pics here if you aren't even self aware enough to know you have poor grooming.

Tbh no way a girl rates him 8/10 IRL. Hes low tier normie. But i agree with some points. Average/HTN have a better time in clubs/bars

 

[SendMePicsToRate]

Tbh no way a girl rates him 8/10 IRL. Hes low tier normie. But i agree with some points. Average/HTN have a better time in clubs/bars

This to be honest, some girls are even more brutal than people on here if you run into any girls who are really into looks on reddit and they rate you they will tell you exactly what is wrong with you and is by far the most accurate rating you can get.

He doesn't look good at all though he is so poorly groomed he is actually repulsive, but they do have a substantially better chance irl as opposed to dating apps

 

[yonmaxxed]

Tbh no way a girl rates him 8/10 IRL. Hes low tier normie. But i agree with some points. Average/HTN have a better time in clubs/bars

at my current state yeah no girl will rate me 8/10, that's totally fair. was slimmer and lean before with good grooming, when i got that answer

 

[yonmaxxed]

I mean you have brows that are too tall vertically so should be groomed with a eyebrow razer and shaped (look at eyebrow maxxing thread on here for reference)

Your beard has sparse growth on your cheeks so either stick to minox or just shave it and get something to trim the length on chin and moustache to a normal length or just shave it all off.

Your hair is just plain uninteresting

Eyebags which you really need to fix, either get enough sleep or get some fillers it makes you look tired and significantly older.

Your posture is god awful.

Could probably cut down body fat more so we can see your jaw.

Not crying I look better than you

yeah i can see those remarks, fair, as of now i'm far more concerned about my cheekbones more than anything, trying to fund mse + fp to fix that + undereye support.

hair and grooming is 30 minutes @ the barber, my depressed ass can't be bothered

my plan is mse + fp, maybe even teeth implants but that's a reach.

then slimming down and getting lean again.

 

[SendMePicsToRate]

yeah i can see those remarks, fair, as of now i'm far more concerned about my cheekbones more than anything, trying to fund mse + fp to fix that + undereye support.

hair and grooming is 30 minutes @ the barber, my depressed ass can't be bothered

my plan is mse + fp, maybe even teeth implants but that's a reach.

then slimming down and getting lean again.

Your cheekbones aren't your main failo though at the moment it is the under eye area more than anything, you cannot judge your cheekbones accurately until you are lean anyways.

Why are you planning mse and fp though?

 

[yonmaxxed]

Your cheekbones aren't your main failo though at the moment it is the under eye area more than anything, you cannot judge your cheekbones accurately until you are lean anyways.

Why are you planning mse and fp though?

recessed maxilla and narrow cheekbones, i've been lean, i know i'm a mix of my mom and dad (mom has megamog skull, dad is the opposite but very low bf so bone is apparent) got my mom's jaw and dad's high but short cheekbones.

mse will widen my cheekbones area along with fp reversing the recession braces gave me, allowing my mandible to jut out back into natural place.

every person in my family that had braces and/or had wisdom teeth extractions has bad undereye support while my big brother is the only one that didn't and his undereye is godtier, i think that if i get my cheekbones to be both more forward and wider they'll support the undereye better.

even tho technically undereye can be maxxed with squinching which trains the muscle that lifts the area.

besides undereye do you think i have any main failo? i can't think of anything considering jaw will be fixed with mse and with slimming down, grooming is 30 mins at barber and i prefer my eyes this way > hunter eyes.

maybe eyebrows, but that's an easily fix too.

 

[SendMePicsToRate]

recessed maxilla and narrow cheekbones, i've been lean, i know i'm a mix of my mom and dad (mom has megamog skull, dad is the opposite but very low bf so bone is apparent) got my mom's jaw and dad's high but short cheekbones.

mse will widen my cheekbones area along with fp reversing the recession braces gave me, allowing my mandible to jut out back into natural place.

every person in my family that had braces and/or had wisdom teeth extractions has bad undereye support while my big brother is the only one that didn't and his undereye is godtier, i think that if i get my cheekbones to be both more forward and wider they'll support the undereye better.

even tho technically undereye can be maxxed with squinching which trains the muscle that lifts the area.

besides undereye do you think i have any main failo? i can't think of anything considering jaw will be fixed with mse and with slimming down, grooming is 30 mins at barber and i prefer my eyes this way > hunter eyes.

maybe eyebrows, but that's an easily fix too.

How do you actually know your maxilla is recessed though?

I mean sean has cheekbones reminiscent of ones you described though so doesn't necessarily mean they are negative. The effects from mse are negligible in regards to bone structure and are mostly dental. You realise you will need braces after mse too lmao?

Squinching won't get rid of eyebags though, nor will cheekbones get rid of eyebags, the only thing that will is support from that area specifically under eye.

Your brows need to be fixed subsantially

All I am doing here is giving you realistic expectations

 

[everythingisacope]

boohoo

How do you actually know your maxilla is recessed though?

I mean sean has cheekbones reminiscent of ones you described though so doesn't necessarily mean they are negative. The effects from mse are negligible in regards to bone structure and are mostly dental. You realise you will need braces after mse too lmao?

Squinching won't get rid of eyebags though, nor will cheekbones get rid of eyebags, the only thing that will is support from that area specifically under eye.

Your brows need to be fixed subsantially

All I am doing here is giving you realistic expectations

although this greycel gets some hate even on this forum for being direct and honest, never ever get pissed off when people give you honest advice, even if it's brutal.Beware of those bluepilling you aka you are 8/10 that means 6PSL which is simply not true.Tbh you have to look at it this way whether you like it or not.If you would take a model foid and let her rate you the PSL rating would be what comes out.Yes, normies might say you are 6/10 when in fact only 3PSL or shit like that but people who care about aesthetics will always rate lower

 

[everythingisacope]

although this greycel gets some hate even on this forum for being direct and honest, never ever get pissed off when people give you honest advice, even if it's brutal.Beware of those bluepilling you aka you are 8/10 that means 6PSL which is simply not true.Tbh you have to look at it this way whether you like it or not.If you would take a model foid and let her rate you the PSL rating would be what comes out.Yes, normies might say you are 6/10 when in fact only 3PSL or shit like that but people who care about aesthetics will always rate lower

also personal story I had some foid rate me 9/10 she herself was 4PSL and I have good posture,body and am tall plus I look better in motion and regardless I knew that is some ultimate bluepill bullshit could not even take it as a compliment and get some ego push like some normies would

 

[SendMePicsToRate]

although this greycel gets some hate even on this forum for being direct and honest, never ever get pissed off when people give you honest advice, even if it's brutal.Beware of those bluepilling you aka you are 8/10 that means 6PSL which is simply not true.Tbh you have to look at it this way whether you like it or not.If you would take a model foid and let her rate you the PSL rating would be what comes out.Yes, normies might say you are 6/10 when in fact only 3PSL or shit like that but people who care about aesthetics will always rate lower

I really do not understand why people aren't just straight forward with it, the healthiest thing anyone coming onto this site for a rate to do is take note of whatever people say that is constructive and to just leave.

The general conversion between PSL to IRL is 1.25 but even then our IRL rating scale is similar to TRM on reddit, normies most of the time will feel horrible if they suggest someone is below average yet 99% of the time would be happy if someone genuinely told them how it is.

 

[everythingisacope]

I really do not understand why people aren't just straight forward with it, the healthiest thing anyone coming onto this site for a rate to do is take note of whatever people say that is constructive and to just leave.

The general conversion between PSL to IRL is 1.25 but even then our IRL rating scale is similar to TRM on reddit, normies most of the time will feel horrible if they suggest someone is below average yet 99% of the time would be happy if someone genuinely told them how it is.

normies get repulsed at 5/10 irl lmao which is by no means ugly

 

[yonmaxxed]

although this greycel gets some hate even on this forum for being direct and honest, never ever get pissed off when people give you honest advice, even if it's brutal.Beware of those bluepilling you aka you are 8/10 that means 6PSL which is simply not true.Tbh you have to look at it this way whether you like it or not.If you would take a model foid and let her rate you the PSL rating would be what comes out.Yes, normies might say you are 6/10 when in fact only 3PSL or shit like that but people who care about aesthetics will always rate lower

there's a diff between "you look like you crawled out of a bush" to the second actual critisism he made, the first one i brushed it off, because a lot of people here are toxic and will try to overly insult. the second i took into consideration.

 

[everythingisacope]

I really do not understand why people aren't just straight forward with it, the healthiest thing anyone coming onto this site for a rate to do is take note of whatever people say that is constructive and to just leave.

The general conversion between PSL to IRL is 1.25 but even then our IRL rating scale is similar to TRM on reddit, normies most of the time will feel horrible if they suggest someone is below average yet 99% of the time would be happy if someone genuinely told them how it is.

and tbh ppl who don't rate "harsh" aka not delusional most of the times arr themselves not very gl

 

[yonmaxxed]

although this greycel gets some hate even on this forum for being direct and honest, never ever get pissed off when people give you honest advice, even if it's brutal.Beware of those bluepilling you aka you are 8/10 that means 6PSL which is simply not true.Tbh you have to look at it this way whether you like it or not.If you would take a model foid and let her rate you the PSL rating would be what comes out.Yes, normies might say you are 6/10 when in fact only 3PSL or shit like that but people who care about aesthetics will always rate lower

also idk about girls liking aesthetics but i do know that if i wasn't socially retarded i'd prolly won't be on this sight in the first place. i do know that a girl genuinely gave me 8/10 when i was dating her bestie and that 2 jb girls hit on me on discord which was pretty funny

 

[yonmaxxed]

which leads me to think that the "subhuman psl" isn't really bad as percieved, then again all of those happened when i was well groomed and slimmer. so definitely not defending my current state.

i think i'll have strong irl appeal once i looksmax, including mse+fp. i want to become the best version of myself but not to the point where i become a whole nother person with a bunch of surgeries etc.

 

[SendMePicsToRate]

and tbh ppl who don't rate "harsh" aka not delusional most of the times arr themselves not very gl

I understand what you mean, the main thing I have noticed is that models themselves have an incredibly high standard, I watched this video of this ex model trying to rate people and you could clearly tell they were holding back what they could have said but compared to a normal person they were harsh. Often people in that environment are well aware of looks being important, which is the opposite for most people who are not aware at all.

 

[everythingisacope]

also idk about girls liking aesthetics but i do know that if i wasn't socially retarded i'd prolly won't be on this sight in the first place. i do know that a girl genuinely gave me 8/10 when i was dating her bestie and that 2 jb girls hit on me on discord which was pretty funny

nah brother being on this site looking to improve is something one should rather be proud of instead of ashamed, hence you try and get better, acquire more knowledge and generally be more aware

 

[everythingisacope]

I understand what you mean, the main thing I have noticed is that models themselves have an incredibly high standard, I watched this video of this ex model trying to rate people and you could clearly tell they were holding back what they could have said but compared to a normal person they were harsh. Often people in that environment are well aware of looks being important, which is the opposite for most people who are not aware at all.

nah brother being on this site looking to improve is something one should rather be proud of instead of ashamed, hence you try and get better, acquire more knowledge and generally be more aware

 

[SendMePicsToRate]

also idk about girls liking aesthetics but i do know that if i wasn't socially retarded i'd prolly won't be on this sight in the first place. i do know that a girl genuinely gave me 8/10 when i was dating her bestie and that 2 jb girls hit on me on discord which was pretty funny

You were dating her best friend lmao you cannot use that as an accurate rate lol

On discord women are fucking attention whores lmaoooo in servers like that

 

[everythingisacope]

which leads me to think that the "subhuman psl" isn't really bad as percieved, then again all of those happened when i was well groomed and slimmer. so definitely not defending my current state.

i think i'll have strong irl appeal once i looksmax, including mse+fp. i want to become the best version of myself but not to the point where i become a whole nother person with a bunch of surgeries etc.

nah fuck that literally everyone would need cantho genio rhino and jaw implants if you were picky

 

[SendMePicsToRate]

True @everythingisacope whilst I don't disagree this site does have some issues with people having their mental health wrecked

 

[yonmaxxed]

nah fuck that literally everyone would need cantho genio rhino and jaw implants if you were picky

that's where i disagree, diff people diff harmony types, having a lot of everything would result in ogre, which is good too but i think the face needs a lot of balancing to be aesthetic

 

[everythingisacope]

True @everythingisacope whilst I don't disagree this site does have some issues with people having their mental health wrecked

ofc some people here claim blackpill whilst depressionpilled to no return but still

 

[SendMePicsToRate]

ofc some people here claim blackpill whilst depressionpilled to no return but still

Ngl though most of them were already fucking depressed before hand though, still does some damage but it depends on outlook

 

[Deleted member 11388]

PSL is here to specificly rate the face without taking in account heigh+frame+fashion+etc(total IRL rating)
PSL matters more on online dating apps than IRL.
But from online dating you will have to go on dates with girls anw to get laid so IRL rating is the most important
Also its hard to rate someone IRL rating from pictures so yea PSL for our sake is better