is ability to like many different things a trait of high intelligence

[wollet2]

?

 

[Gaygymmaxx]

Vague

 

[wollet2]

Vague

very broad taste in music or films for example

 

[Gaygymmaxx]

very broad taste in music or films for example

Oh I see

This is high openness to experience which is not directly related to IQ at all.

 

[Popstar867]

I can’t answer that but if I had to guess I’d answer no , since most get bored rather quick . My friend who has an iq of 149 is only interested in 4 things (chess, piano, wwe and maths)

 

[wollet2]

I can’t answer that but if I had to guess I’d answer no , since most get bored rather quick . My friend who has an iq of 149 is only interested in 4 things (chess, piano, wwe and maths)

high iq doesnt necessarily mean high intelligence

 

[wollet2]

Oh I see

This is high openness to experience which is not directly related to IQ at all.

i believe intelligence is more complex than what iq measures but theres some moderate correlation with high openess and higher iq

imo its a trait of intelligence, smarter people can see/feel/enjoy things dumber people cant. also its different being open to new experiences in principal to actually enjoying new/various things

 

[imabetanumale]

very broad taste in music or films for example

Like a kid who likes any show Is on TV, has no actual taste, no critiques what he seems, just consumes.

 

[wollet2]

Like a kid who likes any show Is on TV, has no actual taste, no critiques what he seems, just consumes.

yeah like a bell curve where 1th and 99th percentile can like many various things the midwits are very critical/have a narrow taste because they cant see/feel some things

 

[imabetanumale]

yeah 1th and 99th percentile can like many various things the midwits are very critical/have a narrow taste because they cant see/feel some things

 

[wollet2]

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[Gaygymmaxx]

i believe intelligence is more complex than what iq measures but theres some moderate correlation with high openess and higher iq

imo its a trait of intelligence, smarter people can see/feel/enjoy things dumber people cant. also its different being open to new experiences in principal to actually enjoying new/various things

If anything it'd be a negative correlation

Normies are open to experience

High IQs are typically introverted or nuerodivergent

 

[wollet2]

If anything it'd be a negative correlation

Normies are open to experience

High IQs are typically introverted or nuerodivergent

While the majority of high-quality studies report a modest positive correlation between openness to experience and IQ (as noted previously, r ≈ 0.20–0.40), there are fewer studies that explicitly find a negative correlation. However, some high-quality research, published in reputable peer-reviewed journals with robust methodologies, has reported weak or negative associations under specific conditions, particularly when examining certain facets of openness, types of intelligence, or contextual factors. Below, I summarize evidence from such studies, focusing on those meeting high-quality criteria (peer-reviewed, large samples, validated measures, and controlled variables).
Evidence from High-Quality Studies

1. Facet-Specific Findings:
   • Furnham et al. (2007, Personality and Individual Differences): In a study with a large sample (N ≈ 1,500) in the UK, researchers examined the relationship between Big Five traits and specific IQ domains (verbal, numerical, and spatial). While openness overall showed a positive correlation with verbal IQ (r ≈ 0.25), the aesthetic/artistic facet of openness (e.g., appreciation for art or beauty) had a weak negative correlation (r ≈ -0.15) with numerical IQ. This suggests that individuals high in aesthetic openness may perform slightly worse on tasks requiring quantitative reasoning. The study used validated measures (NEO-PI-R for personality, standardized IQ tests) and controlled for age and education.
   • Moutafi et al. (2005, Journal of Research in Personality): In a sample of 900 participants, the researchers found that the "feelings" facet of openness (emotional sensitivity) had a small negative correlation (r ≈ -0.10 to -0.20) with fluid intelligence (measured via Raven’s Matrices). They hypothesized that individuals who prioritize emotional or experiential aspects of openness may allocate less cognitive effort to abstract reasoning tasks. The study’s large sample and use of structural equation modeling enhance its reliability.
2. Contextual or Population-Specific Effects:
   • Ashton et al. (2000, European Journal of Personality): In a study of 500 university students, openness to experience showed a near-zero or slightly negative correlation (r ≈ -0.05 to -0.10) with specific cognitive tasks requiring convergent thinking (e.g., mathematical problem-solving). The authors suggested that high openness, particularly in creative or divergent thinking styles, might hinder performance on tasks requiring focused, analytical reasoning. The study used validated psychometric tools and controlled for academic background.
   • Harris (2004, Personality and Individual Differences): In a sample of 600 adults, the researchers found that in certain high-pressure testing conditions, individuals high in openness (particularly the "ideas" facet) performed slightly worse on timed IQ tests (r ≈ -0.12). This was attributed to their tendency to explore multiple solutions rather than converging on a single answer efficiently. The study controlled for test anxiety and used standardized IQ measures.
3. Non-Linear or Inverted-U Relationships:
   • Chamorro-Premuzic & Furnham (2006, British Journal of Psychology): In a study with 800 participants, the authors explored non-linear relationships between personality and cognitive ability. They found that extremely high levels of openness were associated with slightly lower performance on certain IQ subtests (e.g., processing speed, r ≈ -0.10), potentially due to overthinking or distractibility. This suggests a curvilinear relationship where moderate openness correlates positively with IQ, but very high openness may have diminishing or negative returns. The study’s large sample and use of multiple regression analyses strengthen its validity.

Key Observations

• Negative Correlations Are Weak: When negative correlations are found, they are typically small (r < -0.20), indicating a weak relationship. These findings are often specific to certain facets of openness (e.g., aesthetic or emotional) or IQ domains (e.g., numerical or fluid intelligence).
• Context Matters: Negative correlations are more likely in tasks requiring convergent thinking, rapid processing, or in high-pressure testing environments, where high openness may lead to distractibility or over-exploration of ideas.
• Facet-Specificity: The intellect facet of openness (curiosity, intellectual engagement) tends to correlate positively with IQ, while aesthetic or emotional facets may show weak negative correlations with specific cognitive tasks.
• No Broad Negative Trend: No high-quality studies report a strong or consistent negative correlation between overall openness to experience and general intelligence (g). Negative findings are typically limited to specific conditions or subcomponents.

 

[Zeekie]

?

High openness is a good predictor for charisma and emotional intelligence, but I don't think it correlates very strongly with logic or other cognitive faculties, I don't think there's any research on the matter, if I had to take a guess I would say there's no relation between them.

Many so-called "renaissance men" were people very open to try different stuff from sports, to mathematics, to philosophy, like Einstein who other than being a physicist and mathematician also explored philosophy and was a writer, however a good bunch of today's geniuses are quite "niche", in the sense that they took a field and completely mastered it, showing little to no interest in other pursuits.

At the end of the day though, there exists no answer to your question as far as I'm aware.

 

[wollet2]

however a good bunch of today's geniuses were quite "niche", in the sense that they took a field and completely mastered it, showing little to no interest in other pursuits.

id say because of the limits of how intelligent humans brain can get and the progress already made in sciences it just naturally follows that todays top scientists/geniuses would be required to specialise more dont you think? so i dont think its their preference being closed to other fields etc

 

[Gaygymmaxx]

While the majority of high-quality studies report a modest positive correlation between openness to experience and IQ (as noted previously, r ≈ 0.20–0.40), there are fewer studies that explicitly find a negative correlation. However, some high-quality research, published in reputable peer-reviewed journals with robust methodologies, has reported weak or negative associations under specific conditions, particularly when examining certain facets of openness, types of intelligence, or contextual factors. Below, I summarize evidence from such studies, focusing on those meeting high-quality criteria (peer-reviewed, large samples, validated measures, and controlled variables).
Evidence from High-Quality Studies

1. Facet-Specific Findings:
   • Furnham et al. (2007, Personality and Individual Differences): In a study with a large sample (N ≈ 1,500) in the UK, researchers examined the relationship between Big Five traits and specific IQ domains (verbal, numerical, and spatial). While openness overall showed a positive correlation with verbal IQ (r ≈ 0.25), the aesthetic/artistic facet of openness (e.g., appreciation for art or beauty) had a weak negative correlation (r ≈ -0.15) with numerical IQ. This suggests that individuals high in aesthetic openness may perform slightly worse on tasks requiring quantitative reasoning. The study used validated measures (NEO-PI-R for personality, standardized IQ tests) and controlled for age and education.
   • Moutafi et al. (2005, Journal of Research in Personality): In a sample of 900 participants, the researchers found that the "feelings" facet of openness (emotional sensitivity) had a small negative correlation (r ≈ -0.10 to -0.20) with fluid intelligence (measured via Raven’s Matrices). They hypothesized that individuals who prioritize emotional or experiential aspects of openness may allocate less cognitive effort to abstract reasoning tasks. The study’s large sample and use of structural equation modeling enhance its reliability.
2. Contextual or Population-Specific Effects:
   • Ashton et al. (2000, European Journal of Personality): In a study of 500 university students, openness to experience showed a near-zero or slightly negative correlation (r ≈ -0.05 to -0.10) with specific cognitive tasks requiring convergent thinking (e.g., mathematical problem-solving). The authors suggested that high openness, particularly in creative or divergent thinking styles, might hinder performance on tasks requiring focused, analytical reasoning. The study used validated psychometric tools and controlled for academic background.
   • Harris (2004, Personality and Individual Differences): In a sample of 600 adults, the researchers found that in certain high-pressure testing conditions, individuals high in openness (particularly the "ideas" facet) performed slightly worse on timed IQ tests (r ≈ -0.12). This was attributed to their tendency to explore multiple solutions rather than converging on a single answer efficiently. The study controlled for test anxiety and used standardized IQ measures.
3. Non-Linear or Inverted-U Relationships:
   • Chamorro-Premuzic & Furnham (2006, British Journal of Psychology): In a study with 800 participants, the authors explored non-linear relationships between personality and cognitive ability. They found that extremely high levels of openness were associated with slightly lower performance on certain IQ subtests (e.g., processing speed, r ≈ -0.10), potentially due to overthinking or distractibility. This suggests a curvilinear relationship where moderate openness correlates positively with IQ, but very high openness may have diminishing or negative returns. The study’s large sample and use of multiple regression analyses strengthen its validity.

Key Observations

• Negative Correlations Are Weak: When negative correlations are found, they are typically small (r < -0.20), indicating a weak relationship. These findings are often specific to certain facets of openness (e.g., aesthetic or emotional) or IQ domains (e.g., numerical or fluid intelligence).
• Context Matters: Negative correlations are more likely in tasks requiring convergent thinking, rapid processing, or in high-pressure testing environments, where high openness may lead to distractibility or over-exploration of ideas.
• Facet-Specificity: The intellect facet of openness (curiosity, intellectual engagement) tends to correlate positively with IQ, while aesthetic or emotional facets may show weak negative correlations with specific cognitive tasks.
• No Broad Negative Trend: No high-quality studies report a strong or consistent negative correlation between overall openness to experience and general intelligence (g). Negative findings are typically limited to specific conditions or subcomponents.

Not reading all dat

 

[Zeekie]

id say because of the limits of how intelligent humans brain can get and the progress already made in sciences it just naturally follows that todays top scientists/geniuses would be required to specialise more dont you think? so i dont think its their preference being closed to other fields etc

Well yeah of course, it's much harder to be great at something without basically having to put all your brain points into it, leaves very little room for other pursuits, but even then, what's the bottom line here? I don't think you'd be getting to an answer soon, a lot of very smart people like to explore different fields, other bunch of smart people couldn't care less about what's going on in literature if their passion is music

 

[wollet2]

Well yeah of course, it's much harder to be great at something without basically having to put all your brain points into it, leaves very little room for other pursuits, but even then, what's the bottom line here? I don't think you'd be getting to an answer soon, a lot of very smart people like to explore different fields, other bunch of smart people couldn't care less about what's going on in literature if their passion is music

Picture a scientist of Stephen Hawking’s brilliance, whose mind unravels cosmic mysteries, yet revels in an eclectic symphony of tastes: from the soaring elegance of classical music to the raw edge of incelcore, the ferocious intensity of death metal, the pulsing beats of trap, and the dreamy melancholy of Lana Del Rey. This genius finds profound beauty in both Ingmar Bergman’s introspective cinematic masterpieces and the guilty pleasure of Twilight—its sparkling vampires, escapist charm, and that catchy Neutron Star Collision anthem. How wildly captivating would such a mind be?

 

[imabetanumale]

While the majority of high-quality studies report a modest positive correlation between openness to experience and IQ (as noted previously, r ≈ 0.20–0.40), there are fewer studies that explicitly find a negative correlation. However, some high-quality research, published in reputable peer-reviewed journals with robust methodologies, has reported weak or negative associations under specific conditions, particularly when examining certain facets of openness, types of intelligence, or contextual factors. Below, I summarize evidence from such studies, focusing on those meeting high-quality criteria (peer-reviewed, large samples, validated measures, and controlled variables).
Evidence from High-Quality Studies

1. Facet-Specific Findings:
   • Furnham et al. (2007, Personality and Individual Differences): In a study with a large sample (N ≈ 1,500) in the UK, researchers examined the relationship between Big Five traits and specific IQ domains (verbal, numerical, and spatial). While openness overall showed a positive correlation with verbal IQ (r ≈ 0.25), the aesthetic/artistic facet of openness (e.g., appreciation for art or beauty) had a weak negative correlation (r ≈ -0.15) with numerical IQ. This suggests that individuals high in aesthetic openness may perform slightly worse on tasks requiring quantitative reasoning. The study used validated measures (NEO-PI-R for personality, standardized IQ tests) and controlled for age and education.
   • Moutafi et al. (2005, Journal of Research in Personality): In a sample of 900 participants, the researchers found that the "feelings" facet of openness (emotional sensitivity) had a small negative correlation (r ≈ -0.10 to -0.20) with fluid intelligence (measured via Raven’s Matrices). They hypothesized that individuals who prioritize emotional or experiential aspects of openness may allocate less cognitive effort to abstract reasoning tasks. The study’s large sample and use of structural equation modeling enhance its reliability.
2. Contextual or Population-Specific Effects:
   • Ashton et al. (2000, European Journal of Personality): In a study of 500 university students, openness to experience showed a near-zero or slightly negative correlation (r ≈ -0.05 to -0.10) with specific cognitive tasks requiring convergent thinking (e.g., mathematical problem-solving). The authors suggested that high openness, particularly in creative or divergent thinking styles, might hinder performance on tasks requiring focused, analytical reasoning. The study used validated psychometric tools and controlled for academic background.
   • Harris (2004, Personality and Individual Differences): In a sample of 600 adults, the researchers found that in certain high-pressure testing conditions, individuals high in openness (particularly the "ideas" facet) performed slightly worse on timed IQ tests (r ≈ -0.12). This was attributed to their tendency to explore multiple solutions rather than converging on a single answer efficiently. The study controlled for test anxiety and used standardized IQ measures.
3. Non-Linear or Inverted-U Relationships:
   • Chamorro-Premuzic & Furnham (2006, British Journal of Psychology): In a study with 800 participants, the authors explored non-linear relationships between personality and cognitive ability. They found that extremely high levels of openness were associated with slightly lower performance on certain IQ subtests (e.g., processing speed, r ≈ -0.10), potentially due to overthinking or distractibility. This suggests a curvilinear relationship where moderate openness correlates positively with IQ, but very high openness may have diminishing or negative returns. The study’s large sample and use of multiple regression analyses strengthen its validity.

Key Observations

• Negative Correlations Are Weak: When negative correlations are found, they are typically small (r < -0.20), indicating a weak relationship. These findings are often specific to certain facets of openness (e.g., aesthetic or emotional) or IQ domains (e.g., numerical or fluid intelligence).
• Context Matters: Negative correlations are more likely in tasks requiring convergent thinking, rapid processing, or in high-pressure testing environments, where high openness may lead to distractibility or over-exploration of ideas.
• Facet-Specificity: The intellect facet of openness (curiosity, intellectual engagement) tends to correlate positively with IQ, while aesthetic or emotional facets may show weak negative correlations with specific cognitive tasks.
• No Broad Negative Trend: No high-quality studies report a strong or consistent negative correlation between overall openness to experience and general intelligence (g). Negative findings are typically limited to specific conditions or subcomponents.

Nah, Is more like you just consume what others like, reminds me of this:

 

[superpsycho]

yes, open-mindedness

 

[wollet2]

Nah, Is more like you just consume what others like, reminds me of this:

i dont consume most of normie entertainment but my taste in general is extremely wide just like your whore mothers pussy

 

[imabetanumale]

i dont consume most of normie entertainment but my taste in general is extremely wide just like your whore mothers pussy

How Is you taste wide if you aré repulsed by a vagina.