Is abortion murder?

[Jonas2k7]

What do you think?

Personally I have always been pro-abortion, I don't get why so many people think abortion is murder.

Another factor to consider is the age of the baby.

@Jason Voorhees @wishIwasSalludon @chudlite @R@m@ @JohnBaza

 

[prince of europe]

i don't understand men who are militantly against it. if abortion was illegal, chances are they'd accidentally impregnate some random slut they had an ONS with, which means paying child support for at least 18 years.

banning abortion isn't the fix to "hypergamy" men think it is.

 

[Deleted member 70681]

No

 

[loyolaxavvierretard]

If the baby is mine pro life. If the baby is of the bull then pro choice. Cucks have it easy and simple

 

[Jonas2k7]

No

Why not? Explain (and rep).

 

[brownmutt42]

No if the baby isn’t conscious

 

[Deleted member 70681]

Why not? Explain (and rep).

Because abortion baby is and not married parent

 

[R@m@]

Its based because youre not bringing a life to this planet where theres high probability for suffering

People think its murder because we are biologically programed to reproduce and everything that goes against reproduction is not accepted

 

[Panzram]

What do you think?

Personally I have always been pro-abortion, I don't get why so many people think abortion is murder.

Another factor to consider is the age of the baby.

@Jason Voorhees @wishIwasSalludon @chudlite @R@m@ @JohnBaza

Depends on the race.

 

[loyolaxavvierretard]

Depends on the race.

Seems quite interesting from the sounds of it

 

[superpsycho]

yes but sometimes it is justified like if the pregnancy is physically harming the mother or if the baby is going to have a low quality life due to a life-deteriorating physical disability or being doomed to being a sub 8 male

 

[Deleted member 70681]

Hey guiness like my new pfp

 

[superpsycho]

No if the baby isn’t conscious

so if u murdered someone in their sleep it is not murder because they weren’t conscious?

inb4 strawman

 

[brownmutt42]

so if u murdered someone in their sleep it is not murder because they weren’t conscious?

inb4 strawman

That’s still conscious

 

[SchizoParanoid_]

imo, if there isnt a heartbeat its not murder, some people say life starts at the moment of fecundation, other say it starts when theres sentience.

 

[Jonas2k7]

Its based because youre not bringing a life to this planet where theres high probability for suffering

People think its murder because we are biologically programed to reproduce and everything that goes against reproduction is not accepted

Extremely valid argument, there are many normies that think both ways though.

Some say "it's murder", especially the women if they want to keep the baby.

And sometimes women depending on the scenario want to abort the kid themselves.

Normie brain = do what suits you while considering societal standards

Depends on the race.

Abort all ethnic kids and make abortion illegal for whites theorem. (Not saying I support the idea)

When saying this we would have to debate about fundamental philosophical questions, like if ethnics really are equal to whites. In my opinion every human should be treated the same, even though we all aren't the same.

 

[Panzram]

Abort all ethnic kids and make abortion illegal for whites theorem. (Not saying I support the idea)

When saying this we would have to debate about fundamental philosophical questions, like if ethnics really are equal to whites. In my opinion every human should be treated the same, even though we all aren't the same.

I am not saying forced abortion or anything like that should be carried out, but if the vast majority of abortions are gypsy (Serbia) and nigger (USA) then in the grand scheme of things its a good thing. In a pure 99 percent white ethnostate I think they have no place except for medical and rape (real not made up) cases.

 

[JohnBaza]

What do you think?

Personally I have always been pro-abortion, I don't get why so many people think abortion is murder.

Another factor to consider is the age of the baby.

@Jason Voorhees @wishIwasSalludon @chudlite @R@m@ @JohnBaza

I personally think it is murder. If you want to have sex just put on a condom to prevent these problems.
I do think it should be allowed when the woman was raped.
Also the age matters. Like after a couple of weeks it is def murder

 

[Sonneillon]

What do you think?

Personally I have always been pro-abortion, I don't get why so many people think abortion is murder.

Another factor to consider is the age of the baby.

@Jason Voorhees @wishIwasSalludon @chudlite @R@m@ @JohnBaza

Abortion is hidden baal ritual, they have been caught using those fetuses as seasoning in fastfood they also use them for themselfs

 

[mtn/zygos]

What do you think?

Personally I have always been pro-abortion, I don't get why so many people think abortion is murder.

Another factor to consider is the age of the baby.

@Jason Voorhees @wishIwasSalludon @chudlite @R@m@ @JohnBaza

No it is not if abortion is murder then gooning is genocide remember that

 

[wishIwasSalludon]

I don’t care about whether it’s murder or not

 

[wishIwasSalludon]

Ok to answer ur question yea it is murder tbh

And people who say it isn’t are coping

But we should still keep it around because it’s convenient

 

[psychomandible]

What do you think?

Personally I have always been pro-abortion, I don't get why so many people think abortion is murder.

Another factor to consider is the age of the baby.

@Jason Voorhees @wishIwasSalludon @chudlite @R@m@ @JohnBaza

I'm pro eugenics so by default I'm pro abortion

 

[Jonas2k7]

I am not saying forced abortion or anything like that should be carried out, but if the vast majority of abortions are gypsy (Serbia) and nigger (USA) then in the grand scheme of things its a good thing. In a pure 99 percent white ethnostate I think they have no place except for medical and rape (real not made up) cases.

We'd have to debate about whether we see other ethnicites as equal though, it is not that easy to differentiate between ethnicities.

I personally think it is murder. If you want to have sex just put on a condom to prevent these problems.
I do think it should be allowed when the woman was raped.
Also the age matters. Like after a couple of weeks it is def murder

If condom go -> then girl ->

With everything else I agree.

Abortion is hidden baal ritual, they have been caught using those fetuses as seasoning in fastfood they also use them for themselfs

Some jewish secret tribes may be eating fetuses

No it is not if abortion is murder then gooning is genocide remember that

I brought that argument up too one time, the girl replied with "Okay, then thats murder too"

Ok to answer ur question yea it is murder tbh

And people who say it isn’t are coping

But we should still keep it around because it’s convenient

So you say abortion = murder

But we should keep allowing it (murder acc. to you ) because it's convenient

 

[RXnd]

It’s murder but why care

 

[Fusionxz]

It is murder I suppose but I support it. Abortion is necessary to avoid having unwanted children come to the world

 

[wishIwasSalludon]

So you say abortion = murder

But we should keep allowing it (murder acc. to you ) because it's convenient

morality doesn’t exist it’s completely arbitrary

Our values are simply given to us by other humans

Instead I just choose to create my own values

Which may sound messed up for me to say but what if I told you we arbitrarily decide who should live and die all the time

 

[Jonas2k7]

morality doesn’t exist it’s completely arbitrary

Our values are simply given to us by other humans

Instead I just choose to create my own values

Which may sound messed up for me to say but what if I told you we arbitrarily decide who should live and die all the time

I'm not in that philosophical matter but I'll try to give you a good reply.

Morality is a product of evolution and time by humans, it had/has a reason why it is there right now.

And it is pretty logical imo, you don't want something to happen to you (for example being killed) so you don't do the same thing to others.

Thats a basic principle of morality, if you don't want something to happen to you don't do it to others.

 

[wishIwasSalludon]

Morality is a product of evolution and time by humans, it had/has a reason why it is there right now.

And it is pretty logical imo, you don't want something to happen to you (for example being killed) so you don't do the same thing to others.

This is an explanation for why we have an idea moral oughts in the first place

It doesn’t show that moral values actually exist

It’s also clear that morality is more than just an evolutionary product otherwise all humans would have the same morals through cultures and times

Morality in reality is mostly shaped by culture, time period etc. evolution doesn’t have much to do with it

 

[wishIwasSalludon]

It’s murder but why care

Agreed many normies(on both sides) will call u messed up for this

But these same people are fine with buying electronics, clothes, chocolate etc

All these items(most items in general) are all dependent on literal slave like conditions of people in the 3rd world

Many of whom are children

The cobalt in OPs laptop was likely mined by a child slave in congo

Many of which die btw. These are the same people who would call u messed up for saying this

 

[Jonas2k7]

This is an explanation for why we have an idea moral oughts in the first place

It doesn’t show that moral values actually exist

It’s also clear that morality is more than just an evolutionary product otherwise all humans would have the same morals through cultures and times

Morality in reality is mostly shaped by culture, time period etc. evolution doesn’t have much to do with it

I mean with evolution the evolution of new age humans, from ancient times to modern age my bad.

To think about philosophy I would have to THINK a lot (months to years just like those aristocrats type shit), which I don't want to because its a waste of time as of now.

Can you give a tldr or a pathway in what way I should think?

 

[Jonas2k7]

The cobalt in OPs laptop was likely mined by a child slave in congo

Many of which die btw. These are the same people who would call u messed up for saying this

I'm a normie liberal now

 

[kasrkin]

it's not murder

 

[wishIwasSalludon]

I mean with evolution the evolution of new age humans, from ancient times to modern age my bad.

To think about philosophy I would have to THINK a lot (months to years just like those aristocrats type shit), which I don't want to because its a waste of time as of now.

Can you give a tldr or a pathway in what way I should think?

It’s better for u to find ur own conclusions

but for me nihilism was the paradigm shift that changed the course of my values forever

Before I believed in typical kantian ethics

 

[LegendaryKennen]

no

 

[Daddy's Home]

It's definitely murder. Is it a necessary killing though for where society is now? It certainly is. Can that change in the future? Maybe, who knows

The ideal would be to give birth to the child regardless and give it up for adoption to a family that can't have children (if the baby is not born sick or deformed or some shit)

But it's also ideal that women don't get raped, that they don't have problems in childbirth or during pregnancy, etc.

It would also be ideal if they only had one partner to have sex with, and only had the baby with them when they feel the need

But unfortunately life is gray and not black and white, so to each his own..

Some women want to do but are turned down, other women would need to do but have nowhere to do it, while others would not objectively need to but can still do it..

 

[wishIwasSalludon]

I'm pro eugenics so by default I'm pro abortion

not to be that guy but you don't necessarily have to be pro abortion to be pro eugenics

there are ways you could incentivize genetically unfit people to not reproduce and genetically fit people to reproduce

for example you could make a law that would tax genetically unfit people if they want to reproduce

and it would reward genetically fit people to reproduce

maybe not the best example but its just so you get what I mean

 

[marshadow]

What do you think?

Personally I have always been pro-abortion, I don't get why so many people think abortion is murder.

Another factor to consider is the age of the baby.

@Jason Voorhees @wishIwasSalludon @chudlite @R@m@ @JohnBaza

Of course it is, shits evil.

 

[JohnBaza]

We'd have to debate about whether we see other ethnicites as equal though, it is not that easy to differentiate between ethnicities.

If condom go -> then girl ->

With everything else I agree.

Some jewish secret tribes may be eating fetuses


I brought that argument up too one time, the girl replied with "Okay, then thats murder too"


So you say abortion = murder

But we should keep allowing it (murder acc. to you ) because it's convenient

Doesnt condoms have sperm killing things in it so that when it goes boom the lady still doesnt get pregnant

 

[Jonas2k7]

Doesnt condoms have sperm killing things in it so that when it goes boom the lady still doesnt get pregnant

Most do yeah, but if condom go -> and then -> then still ->

 

[butterworld]

What do you think?

Personally I have always been pro-abortion, I don't get why so many people think abortion is murder.

Another factor to consider is the age of the baby.

@Jason Voorhees @wishIwasSalludon @chudlite @R@m@ @JohnBaza

It’s just a matter of religious beliefs and your moral system. I think all religion is cope so I just follow the science, that little nigga ain’t a human until he pops out of the vagina hole.

 

[psychomandible]

not to be that guy but you don't necessarily have to be pro abortion to be pro eugenics

there are ways you could incentivize genetically unfit people to not reproduce and genetically fit people to reproduce

for example you could make a law that would tax genetically unfit people if they want to reproduce

and it would reward genetically fit people to reproduce

maybe not the best example but its just so you get what I mean

Have a look at every single eugenic state in history, they all used abortion or infanticide as the main mode