Is bone growth strictly hormones/nutrition?

[recessedyn]

I feel like a lot of the course sellers including Jewish textbooks lie about the mechanics of osteogenesis. I feel like Wolff's Law is bs and thumb pulling, chewing, mewing, etc. is cope and bones don't remodel through mechanical loading. Have minimal knowledge on this topic would appreciate some input.

 

[insignia_]

I don’t have enough knowledge to tell you anything in detail, but no, it’s not strictly hormones & nutrition.

 

[oribulator]

Chewing helps bone growth and wym by Jewish textbook

 

[insignia_]

You could also do your research. Google is free.

 

[recessedyn]

Chewing helps bone growth and wym by Jewish textbook

Like most individuals who are "educated" on this stuff are just reading collage textbooks, funded through donations from the elite who throw a lot of bs in there.

 

[oribulator]

Like most individuals who are "educated" on this stuff are just reading collage textbooks, funded through donations from the elite who throw a lot of bs in there.

Most of it is shit stolen from good looksmaxx threads

 

[lefort3cel]

I would say hormones mediate the growth that was predisposed by your genetics, like your genetics is the container and hormones fills that container

 

[recessedyn]

You could also do your research. Google is free.

True, but there is limited formal research on practices like thumbpulling or hard chewing because there is little financial incentives.

 

[recessedyn]

I would say hormones mediate the growth that was predisposed by your genetics, like your genetics is the container and hormones fills that container

So would you say mechanical loading causing increased bone growth is bs at any age?

 

[lefort3cel]

So would you say mechanical loading causing increased bone growth is bs at any age?

Yeah mechanics isn't gonna influence bone growth, the hormones that mediate this is testosterone and hgh (moreso hgh but testosterone is necessary for clavicles and jaw growth) and estrogen is kinda a looksmin it fuses the growth plates so fat niggas with high estrogen levels are short because the extra estrogen fused their growth plates early. you generally wanna avoid having high estro so meds like aromatase inhibitors nuke estrogen levels. Once growth plates are closed it is generally over and no growth is biologically possible without osteotomy

 

[insignia_]

True, but there is limited formal research on practices like thumbpulling or hard chewing because there is little financial incentives.

Practices like thumbpulling aren’t studied not because of a lack of funding, but because there isn’t a good reason to study them… They don’t produce nearly enough force, especially sustained force. There’s genuinely no good reason to study them. Also, the devices that currently exist are superior to whatever thumbpulling may do + it’d be stupid for scientists & doctors to publish studies on trying to DIY your own palatal expansion JFL.

On the other hand, the concepts behind all of these practices (hard chewing, thumbpulling, etc.) have been studied extensively. If you think there’s limited research, it’s because no one wants to fucking study thumbpulling jfl. Maybe try finding the correct concepts and terminology behind these things and then do your own research.

 

[recessedyn]

Yeah mechanics isn't gonna influence bone growth, the hormones that mediate this is testosterone and hgh (moreso hgh but testosterone is necessary for clavicles and jaw growth) and estrogen is kinda a looksmin it fuses the growth plates so fat niggas with high estrogen levels are short because the extra estrogen fused their growth plates early. you generally wanna avoid having high estro so meds like aromatase inhibitors nuke estrogen levels. Once growth plates are closed it is generally over and no growth is biologically possible without osteotomy

Interesting, I have spent the last year following looksmaxers like jordan wood and oscar patel who preach thumpulling and expanding the midpalatal suture. I myself have been consistently thumbpulling 6x a day, 3 min a session for the past 3 months, minimal results so far (.5mm). Sounds like I wasted my time lol. Do you have any good sources/tiktokers who talk abt this stuff?