Is getting lean harmful at 15? (Guys please GTFIH 🙏)

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I always hear that going on a calorie deficit at a younger age can detrimentally affect ones overall growth, however wouldn’t eating nutrient foods (unprocessed) and eating less be more beneficial than harmful (becoming lean, rather than staying at 18-20% body-fat with a face of fat and bloat). Also, this would be paired with cardio and weight training.
So the question is… Do i get lean and get a better face/body or prioritise eating more food (sounds like fat fuck cope) for bone mass and growth? Im currently a Mid MTN with face fat and bloat, so i reckon getting lean would ascend me a bit (the only reasonable way to “ascend”).
Any person I know who went on a “bulk” (they would eat anything, as long as it was high calorie and low volume), just became a fat-bloated fuck with a bit more muscle in the gym, gynecomastia and acne. Yes in theory, i could just eat more food that is unprocessed and nutrient dense, but im 15, unable to get my own ingredients lmao. Therefore, i would personally go for eating less ( anything i eat must be nutritious), exercising more and avoiding any looksmin crap. Ultimately, I am posting this thread, as you guys probably know the best decisions i could make as a 15 year old, instead of me doing the wrong thing and fucking myself over in the long run. Criticise, suggest, advise. Just help me guys please. Thanks.
 
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Too much text. Just get to around 12% bf thats the most healthy
 
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if you do it like a retard then yes. but if you have a bit less processed shit and get to 10-15% bf then no.
 
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CelestialCypriot said:
I always hear that going on a calorie deficit at a younger age can detrimentally affect ones overall growth, however wouldn’t eating nutrient foods (unprocessed) and eating less be more beneficial than harmful (becoming lean, rather than staying at 18-20% body-fat with a face of fat and bloat). Also, this would be paired with cardio and weight training.
So the question is… Do i get lean and get a better face/body or prioritise eating more food (sounds like fat fuck cope) for bone mass and growth? Im currently a Mid MTN with face fat and bloat, so i reckon getting lean would ascend me a bit (the only reasonable way to “ascend”).
Any person I know who went on a “bulk” (they would eat anything, as long as it was high calorie and low volume), just became a fat-bloated fuck with a bit more muscle in the gym, gynecomastia and acne. Yes in theory, i could just eat more food that is unprocessed and nutrient dense, but im 15, unable to get my own ingredients lmao. Therefore, i would personally go for eating less ( anything i eat must be nutritious), exercising more and avoiding any looksmin crap. Ultimately, I am posting this thread, as you guys probably know the best decisions i could make as a 15 year old, instead of me doing the wrong thing and fucking myself over in the long run. Criticise, suggest, advise. Just help me guys please. Thanks.
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18-20% Bodyfat is fine

Go on a calorie deficit unless your short ( Slight Calorie surplus is good for growth)

Keep eating heaalthy
 
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just eat above your maintenance. Going in deficit will 100% deter your growth
 
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unless your going for a really low bf like sub 10% you will be fine
and keep your deficit 300-500 below maintenance
 
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CelestialCypriot said:
I always hear that going on a calorie deficit at a younger age can detrimentally affect ones overall growth, however wouldn’t eating nutrient foods (unprocessed) and eating less be more beneficial than harmful (becoming lean, rather than staying at 18-20% body-fat with a face of fat and bloat). Also, this would be paired with cardio and weight training.
So the question is… Do i get lean and get a better face/body or prioritise eating more food (sounds like fat fuck cope) for bone mass and growth? Im currently a Mid MTN with face fat and bloat, so i reckon getting lean would ascend me a bit (the only reasonable way to “ascend”).
Any person I know who went on a “bulk” (they would eat anything, as long as it was high calorie and low volume), just became a fat-bloated fuck with a bit more muscle in the gym, gynecomastia and acne. Yes in theory, i could just eat more food that is unprocessed and nutrient dense, but im 15, unable to get my own ingredients lmao. Therefore, i would personally go for eating less ( anything i eat must be nutritious), exercising more and avoiding any looksmin crap. Ultimately, I am posting this thread, as you guys probably know the best decisions i could make as a 15 year old, instead of me doing the wrong thing and fucking myself over in the long run. Criticise, suggest, advise. Just help me guys please. Thanks.
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Only when u are eating about a thousand calories or less and/or are below 10% bodyfat for males.
 
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CelestialCypriot said:
I always hear that going on a calorie deficit at a younger age can detrimentally affect ones overall growth, however wouldn’t eating nutrient foods (unprocessed) and eating less be more beneficial than harmful (becoming lean, rather than staying at 18-20% body-fat with a face of fat and bloat). Also, this would be paired with cardio and weight training.
So the question is… Do i get lean and get a better face/body or prioritise eating more food (sounds like fat fuck cope) for bone mass and growth? Im currently a Mid MTN with face fat and bloat, so i reckon getting lean would ascend me a bit (the only reasonable way to “ascend”).
Any person I know who went on a “bulk” (they would eat anything, as long as it was high calorie and low volume), just became a fat-bloated fuck with a bit more muscle in the gym, gynecomastia and acne. Yes in theory, i could just eat more food that is unprocessed and nutrient dense, but im 15, unable to get my own ingredients lmao. Therefore, i would personally go for eating less ( anything i eat must be nutritious), exercising more and avoiding any looksmin crap. Ultimately, I am posting this thread, as you guys probably know the best decisions i could make as a 15 year old, instead of me doing the wrong thing and fucking myself over in the long run. Criticise, suggest, advise. Just help me guys please. Thanks.
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I hate it when org users get pubescent teens to go on a diet when thats fucking your hormones and height
 
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Jaw is law Saar.
Looks over books Saar.
Conclusion is get lean for bone show Saar.
 
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Why isn't every 15 year old here ON aromasin?!!!
YOUR GROWTH PLATES ARENT PROBABLY FUSED SO GTFO AN AROMATASE INHIBITOR
 
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lcberg04 said:
Why isn't every 15 year old here ON aromasin?!!!
YOUR GROWTH PLATES ARENT PROBABLY FUSED SO GTFO AN AROMATASE INHIBITOR
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Won’t it fuck up your skin and health? I know from body build forum skin goes to shit when they nuke estrogen, supposedly it protects skin from androgens somehow,

Estrogens and aging skin - PMC

Estrogen deficiency following menopause results in atrophic skin changes and acceleration of skin aging. Estrogens significantly modulate skin physiology, targeting keratinocytes, fibroblasts, melanocytes, hair follicles and sebaceous glands, and ...
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov



Also I read estrogen has protective effective on bone so while yes it closes plates if you nuke aromatase without increasing growth hormone/testosterone I assume it might have opposite effect cause it increases bone resorption, this why menopausal women often get problems with their bones super rapidly
 
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boykoborisov said:
Won’t it fuck up your skin and health? I know from body build forum skin goes to shit when they nuke estrogen, supposedly it protects skin from androgens somehow,

Estrogens and aging skin - PMC

Estrogen deficiency following menopause results in atrophic skin changes and acceleration of skin aging. Estrogens significantly modulate skin physiology, targeting keratinocytes, fibroblasts, melanocytes, hair follicles and sebaceous glands, and ...
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov



Also I read estrogen has protective effective on bone so while yes it closes plates if you nuke aromatase without increasing growth hormone/testosterone I assume it might have opposite effect cause it increases bone resorption, this why menopausal women often get problems with their bones super rapidly
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Maybe but you are not in the age bracket of a menopausal women.
Still by reducing estrogen levels, the rate of bone maturation slows down and the delay of the fusion of the growth plates allows for more height gain.
I mean there are literally studies that proof that shit, I wish I was in puberty again.

Anastrozole Increases Predicted Adult Height of Short Adolescent Males Treated with Growth Hormone: A Randomized, Placebo-Controlled, Multicenter Trial for One to Three Years - PMC

Context: The process of epiphyseal fusion during puberty is regulated by estrogen, even in males. Objective: Our objective was to investigate whether anastrozole, a potent aromatase inhibitor, could delay bone age acceleration and increase predicted ...
pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
 
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lcberg04 said:
Maybe but you are not in the age bracket of a menopausal women.
Still by reducing estrogen levels, the rate of bone maturation slows down and the delay of the fusion of the growth plates allows for more height gain.
I mean there are literally studies that proof that shit, I wish I was in puberty again.

Anastrozole Increases Predicted Adult Height of Short Adolescent Males Treated with Growth Hormone: A Randomized, Placebo-Controlled, Multicenter Trial for One to Three Years - PMC

Context: The process of epiphyseal fusion during puberty is regulated by estrogen, even in males. Objective: Our objective was to investigate whether anastrozole, a potent aromatase inhibitor, could delay bone age acceleration and increase predicted ...
pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
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Ok, makes sense tbf, what about the stuff about skin, is that part also cap?
 
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lcberg04 said:
Why isn't every 15 year old here ON aromasin?!!!
YOUR GROWTH PLATES ARENT PROBABLY FUSED SO GTFO AN AROMATASE INHIBITOR
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how to get , i can only get it based on recipe and i cant find any site to get it (i dont wanna buy off some shit ass telegram selling me overpriced vitamin C)
 
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keep protein intake at 1.5-2g/kg of bodyweight while you lean down and you wont affect height
 
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rory4579 said:
Below 175 and Not in a growth spurt

175 isnt terrible but u dont wanna stunt ur growth
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I’m 175 rn at 16 should i eat more etc or what should i do my mom is 165 and dad is 187. Is it over? And should i be in a deficit, i was doing 1500cals meanwhile my maintenance is 2500 and sometimes i will eat one meal a day that is way below my deficit
 
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profmade said:
I’m 175 rn at 16 should i eat more etc or what should i do my mom is 165 and dad is 187. Is it over? And should i be in a deficit, i was doing 1500cals meanwhile my maintenance is 2500 and sometimes i will eat one meal a day that is way below my deficit
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Your starving urself

Nigga my maintenance is 2800 im 172 at 15

Caloric deficit is gonna keep u short eat more clean food
 
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rory4579 said:
Your starving urself

Nigga my maintenance is 2800 im 172 at 15

Caloric deficit is gonna keep u short eat more clean food
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Yh I’ve been eating more I guess I need to eat more clean food too though. The reason I eat less is because when I do my food isn’t always clean but for instance today my dinner was clean, ate some snacks and probably went just over my maintenance but eating makes my stomach so bloated like a balloon and my stomach feels so heavy it’s awful
 
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profmade said:
Yh I’ve been eating more I guess I need to eat more clean food too though. The reason I eat less is because when I do my food isn’t always clean but for instance today my dinner was clean, ate some snacks and probably went just over my maintenance but eating makes my stomach so bloated like a balloon and my stomach feels so heavy it’s awful
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Carbs make u bloat cause of something to do with insulin in the liver

Eat fats and protein they are insulin neutral and dont bloat u
 
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