Is "improving microbiome" is just about (changing) microbiome and getting lucky

[Crusile]

We know changing microbiome is possible, but the (change) nets null positive outcome because some improve, some worsen.
Is improving microbiome just about attempting new diets until the subjective effects FEEL GOOD (to estimate a positive effect)

example: -vegan to carnivore
-standard american diet to fruitarian

 

[Whatashame]

Stop citing carnivore diet, its beyond stupid. If you want to cite the paleo is ok, but the carnivore is nonsense to stupid people. For the microbiome you need to eat a variety of foods, just that. There is a study with the hadza where they tested their microbiome during an entire year. The microbiomes during the dry period (Where they would eat mostly meat) was as bad as a modern human. But in the other half where they would eat a big variety of foods their microbiome was insanely better.

 

[autistic_tendencies]

you’re either born with healthy micro biome or shit tier

 

[Crusile]

Stop citing carnivore diet, its beyond stupid. If you want to cite the paleo is ok, but the carnivore is nonsense to stupid people. For the microbiome you need to eat a variety of foods, just that. There is a study with the hadza where they tested their microbiome during an entire year. The microbiomes during the dry period (Where they would eat mostly meat) was as bad as a modern human. But in the other half where they would eat a big variety of foods their microbiome was insanely better.

Yea but it changes microbiome and people report feeling better after significantly changing their diets, like vegan to carnivore. Microbiome "analysis" is fake, you can estimate quality microbiome with subjective effects like brainfog

fact: Fast/fried food can improve microbiome. Its just about changing.

Some people thrive on fast food diets.

Im sure his microbiome is better off on his current processed food diet.

 

[Kirby7000]

We know changing microbiome is possible, but the (change) nets null positive outcome because some improve, some worsen.
Is improving microbiome just about attempting new diets until the subjective effects FEEL GOOD (to estimate a positive effect)

example: -vegan to carnivore
-standard american diet to fruitarian

stop eating goyslop. Simple as that

 

[Kirby7000]

Yea but it changes microbiome and people report feeling better after significantly changing their diets, like vegan to carnivore. Microbiome "analysis" is fake, you can estimate quality microbiome with subjective effects like brainfog

fact: Fast/fried food can improve microbiome. Its just about changing.

Some people thrive on fast food diets.

Im sure his microbiome is better off on his current processed food diet.

this kike looks like shit. He definitely drinks the blood of children. Imagine listening to anything a lying jew has to say.

 

[Whatashame]

Yea but it changes microbiome and people report feeling better after significantly changing their diets, like vegan to carnivore. Microbiome "analysis" is fake, you can estimate quality microbiome with subjective effects like brainfog

fact: Fast/fried food can improve microbiome. Its just about changing.

Some people thrive on fast food diets.

Im sure his microbiome is better off on his current processed food diet.

dude. lol. I forget where im typing.

 

[Crusile]

stop eating goyslop. Simple as that

only genetic elite humans can sustain fast/fried food diets. All subhumans "feel like shit" after eating unhealthy food so they dont/stop.

 

[Kirby7000]

only genetic elite humans can sustain fast/fried food diets. All subhumans "feel like shit" after eating unhealthy food so they dont/stop.

and the kike you posted eats children. Does he look like genetic elite to you?

 

[GalacticHero]

First of all, stop with this pussy victim mentality.

Now, check your diet & digestion. You may have intestinal inflammation which manifests on the skin as well.

1) Cut out carbs (especially wheat, since gluten can cause inflammation in some people).

2) Cut out all dairy & whey (the lactose and growth hormones can cause inflammation as well)

3) Eat fermented, probiotic rich foods. Especially FRESH, RAW sauerkraut or kimchi. If you can't find the fresh one, make it yourself. The lactic acid bacteria will heal your gut & skin.

Eating fresh sauerkraut is the most important part here.

4) Drink enough water. Check your daily requirements.

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Read @kokoszanel posts
He has HUGE knowledge about this stuff

 

[turbocuckcel_7000000]

there is no one size fits all solution that will work for everybody, it's why you need to experiment, and why vaxxers and other forced-medicators are retarded

 

[Gonthar]

First of all, stop with this pussy victim mentality.

Now, check your diet & digestion. You may have intestinal inflammation which manifests on the skin as well.

1) Cut out carbs (especially wheat, since gluten can cause inflammation in some people).

2) Cut out all dairy & whey (the lactose and growth hormones can cause inflammation as well)

3) Eat fermented, probiotic rich foods. Especially FRESH, RAW sauerkraut or kimchi. If you can't find the fresh one, make it yourself. The lactic acid bacteria will heal your gut & skin.

Eating fresh sauerkraut is the most important part here.

4) Drink enough water. Check your daily requirements.

5) Eat dirt - don't over-wash your fruits and vegetables, they contain soil based organisms that are missing more and more from modern's people gut flora. Back when we were kids, we would often climb in trees, pick up fruits and eat them right there without washing them. We also spent a lot of time outside, played in the dirt, played with animals, inhaled dust, etc. so we were exposed to a wider variety of bacteria that kept the immune system strong and healthy.
I suspect a lot of fruits and vegetables from supermarkets are sterilized or irradiated somehow so they might not have much of these soil bacteria, the best would be to go and pick up your own fruits and vegetables, here in Romania it's not a problem, there are many wild trees and bushes growing everywhere(plums, cherry plums, rosehips, etc.).

 

[Deleted member 8758]

We know changing microbiome is possible, but the (change) nets null positive outcome because some improve, some worsen.
Is improving microbiome just about attempting new diets until the subjective effects FEEL GOOD (to estimate a positive effect)

example: -vegan to carnivore
-standard american diet to fruitarian

Population genetics, some people come from groups that have mutations that allow them to deal with certain diets so it cant necessarily be one size fits all unless its the ancestral diet, being paleo but you could fine tune it probably if you find what your ancestors ate. Play to your gut's genetic strengths.

 

[kalefartbomb]

Stop citing carnivore diet, its beyond stupid. If you want to cite the paleo is ok, but the carnivore is nonsense to stupid people. For the microbiome you need to eat a variety of foods, just that. There is a study with the hadza where they tested their microbiome during an entire year. The microbiomes during the dry period (Where they would eat mostly meat) was as bad as a modern human. But in the other half where they would eat a big variety of foods their microbiome was insanely better.

This is nonsensical. Just activist pseudo-science. Why would an African carnivorous microbiome resemble a standard American diet's microbiome which is 90% plant based? The microbiome simply consists of lots of different bacteria species that each thrive on different fuels. A given diet will therefore cause some species to propagate more than others. Mainstream pseudo-science about the microbiome takes a similar take to yours that some arbitrary amount of diversity is best. Like if we don't all have gas-producing bacteria from rotting broccoli in our guts that it will somehow harm us. The microbiome is barely understood, there isn't any high quality research on it. The research that exists is politically-charged activist-science just like much of the old research on cholesterol.

Activists want to pretend that walking around farting all day with a distended stomach is healthy and normal, and they convince gullible people with poor studies that it's somehow healthy to have a microbiome that can turn garbage food into gas, rather than a microbiome that is optimised for a good diet in the first place.

If you tear up fistfuls of grass and eat it, your microbiome will adapt to your new diverse diet. You will be slightly better adapted to eating grass than the average person and you can congratulate yourself on your healthy diverse microbiome. I would rather have a microbiome that can handle 2lbs of meat every day.

 

[kalefartbomb]

We know changing microbiome is possible, but the (change) nets null positive outcome because some improve, some worsen.
Is improving microbiome just about attempting new diets until the subjective effects FEEL GOOD (to estimate a positive effect)

example: -vegan to carnivore
-standard american diet to fruitarian

All dietary answers are in anthropology. The optimal diet for any species is that to which it is adapted over thousands/millions of years. The optimal microbiome is therefore that which is optimal for such a diet. It doesn't matter what a (((study))) says, or what some influencer or activist thinks. If you want to prove that a meat-based microbiome is not optimal then you have to prove that humans evolved eating modern vegetation instead of meat.

Vegan activists hate arguments from first principles and empirical evidence. They love fake studies.

 

[Whatashame]

This is nonsensical. Just activist pseudo-science. Why would an African carnivorous microbiome resemble a standard American diet's microbiome which is 90% plant based? The microbiome simply consists of lots of different bacteria species that each thrive on different fuels. A given diet will therefore cause some species to propagate more than others. Mainstream pseudo-science about the microbiome takes a similar take to yours that some arbitrary amount of diversity is best. Like if we don't all have gas-producing bacteria from rotting broccoli in our guts that it will somehow harm us. The microbiome is barely understood, there isn't any high quality research on it. The research that exists is politically-charged activist-science just like much of the old research on cholesterol.

Activists want to pretend that walking around farting all day with a distended stomach is healthy and normal, and they convince gullible people with poor studies that it's somehow healthy to have a microbiome that can turn garbage food into gas, rather than a microbiome that is optimised for a good diet in the first place.

If you tear up fistfuls of grass and eat it, your microbiome will adapt to your new diverse diet. You will be slightly better adapted to eating grass than the average person and you can congratulate yourself on your healthy diverse microbiome. I would rather have a microbiome that can handle 2lbs of meat every day.

https://sci-hub.hkvisa.net/10.1126/science.aan4834