Is it bad that clav goes viral poll?

Is it bad ?

  • Yes

    Votes: 30 49.2%
  • Nah

    Votes: 7 11.5%
  • Ehh who cares, kill yourself and a family of three

    Votes: 24 39.3%

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Making his lookmaxxing tips viral so every cuck will lookmax and girls will be even more hypergamous because better looking guys everywhere.
 
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Making his lookmaxxing tips viral so every cuck will lookmax and girls will be even more hypergamous because better looking guys everywhere.
People are clowning on him because he's taking some amphetamines, nobody is doing even 0.5% of what he did

No effect overall, he's just maintaining the virality of this community
 
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Making his lookmaxxing tips viral so every cuck will lookmax and girls will be even more hypergamous because better looking guys everywhere.
There’s northing much to do in LM, your base looks control u
 
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Making his lookmaxxing tips viral so every cuck will lookmax and girls will be even more hypergamous because better looking guys everywhere.
literally no one is going to do the shit he does most people are lazy fucks
 
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dnr inb4 everyone chooses option 3
 
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i would freeze up if someone brought this shit up to me ever
 
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I recently saw a Tiktok edit of him with a million likes
 
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most of the mainstream looksmaxing attention is coming from indian kids anyway we really dont have much to worry about
 
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It is bad he went viral

He's basically throwing the whole community under the bus for fame

K.Shami was the first to attempt it

Stuff like this should be gatekept because the advantage you have is relative to others not trying as hard

When everyone knows looks matter suddenly the bar is raised by just that much

Idk how long this trend of BP will go on but it's in everyone here's best interest that it dies out quickly

Or that Clav turns into a jester that people laugh at or view as an entertaining oddity but don't take too seriously

The only consolation is that even with the knowledge most people still don't really recognize just how valuable looks are. You have to do quite a lot of research to really begin to internalize the beliefs.

I have a friend who I've been telling about looksmaxxing for the past 5 years, he's seen me slay, he's seen me max and yet he's never really taken it seriously. He started talking about Clav recently because he's into braindead normie streamer shit and even then he doesn't really comprehend how important looks are. Even though he works a job where looks are a huge advantage (server in a nice restaurant) and constantly gets complimented on his looks even though he's barely HTN, he still doesn't quite understand how much easier it could be if just tried. He's verified 100 IQ so normie intelligence. Ideally most people react the way he has to the information, it's interesting, provides some slightly valuable info, but don't see it as so integral to actually motivate any serious change in behavior.
 
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It is bad he went viral

He's basically throwing the whole community under the bus for fame

K.Shami was the first to attempt it

Stuff like this should be gatekept because the advantage you have is relative to others not trying as hard

When everyone knows looks matter suddenly the bar is raised by just that much

Idk how long this trend of BP will go on but it's in everyone here's best interest that it dies out quickly

Or that Clav turns into a jester that people laugh at or view as an entertaining oddity but don't take too seriously

The only consolation is that even with the knowledge most people still don't really recognize just how valuable looks are. You have to do quite a lot of research to really begin to internalize the beliefs.

I have a friend who I've been telling about looksmaxxing for the past 5 years, he's seen me slay, he's seen me max and yet he's never really taken it seriously. He started talking about Clav recently because he's into braindead normie streamer shit and even then he doesn't really comprehend how important looks are. Even though he works a job where looks are a huge advantage (server in a nice restaurant) and constantly gets complimented on his looks even though he's barely HTN, he still doesn't quite understand how much easier it could be if just tried. He's verified 100 IQ so normie intelligence. Ideally most people react the way he has to the information, it's interesting, provides some slightly valuable info, but don't see it as so integral to actually motivate any serious change in behavior.
Clav is jestering hard rn he was dancing to nigga music while on meth with another jester. Normies do not take him seriously especially with many other creators talking about him negatively such as Greg douchette
 
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It is bad he went viral

He's basically throwing the whole community under the bus for fame

K.Shami was the first to attempt it

Stuff like this should be gatekept because the advantage you have is relative to others not trying as hard

When everyone knows looks matter suddenly the bar is raised by just that much

Idk how long this trend of BP will go on but it's in everyone here's best interest that it dies out quickly

Or that Clav turns into a jester that people laugh at or view as an entertaining oddity but don't take too seriously

The only consolation is that even with the knowledge most people still don't really recognize just how valuable looks are. You have to do quite a lot of research to really begin to internalize the beliefs.

I have a friend who I've been telling about looksmaxxing for the past 5 years, he's seen me slay, he's seen me max and yet he's never really taken it seriously. He started talking about Clav recently because he's into braindead normie streamer shit and even then he doesn't really comprehend how important looks are. Even though he works a job where looks are a huge advantage (server in a nice restaurant) and constantly gets complimented on his looks even though he's barely HTN, he still doesn't quite understand how much easier it could be if just tried. He's verified 100 IQ so normie intelligence. Ideally most people react the way he has to the information, it's interesting, provides some slightly valuable info, but don't see it as so integral to actually motivate any serious change in behavior.
nobody cares nigga, this happened before jfl in a couple years they will all forget again whiting the next generations and then mainstream again, the cycle repeats
 
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Clav is jestering hard rn he was dancing to nigga music while on meth with another jester. Normies do not take him seriously especially with many other creators talking about him negatively such as Greg douchette
Yeah it's a tough endeavor trying to make it into normie popularity sphere based on a system of beliefs that is incredibly ND and anti normie such as looksmaxxing.

Frankly I don't think it's possible to succeed in that realm without a massive pivot because normies simply cannot be blackpilled en masse nor do they want brutal reality constantly shoved in their faces. You aren't going to stop people from coping and you make yourself into an easy target by being so honest about your desire for control.

I've already seen many reaction videos pop up of people criticizing Clav and calling him insecure. It's all blue pill cope but what do you expect, frankly I'm happy to see those videos. Let those faggots cope, you shouldn't be trying to wake people up anyway. It's a bit of just deserts for selling out.

Still many people will be that much closer to awareness of the nature of the game and that's not great for you if you want the best possible competitive advantage in the dating market.

I know I will be doing my part to play down the value of looksmaxxing to any normie I speak to.
 
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nobody cares nigga, this happened before jfl in a couple years they will all forget again whiting the next generations and then mainstream again, the cycle repeats
It hasn't really happened at this scale before but I agree it likely won't last. I guess we'll see how things play out
 
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Making his lookmaxxing tips viral so every cuck will lookmax and girls will be even more hypergamous because better looking guys everywhere.
Nah, it’s not bad. Also I’m a looksminner so this doesn’t affect me. :Comfy:
 
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Yeah it's a tough endeavor trying to make it into normie popularity sphere based on a system of beliefs that is incredibly ND and anti normie such as looksmaxxing.

Frankly I don't think it's possible to succeed in that realm without a massive pivot because normies simply cannot be blackpilled en masse nor do they want brutal reality constantly shoved in their faces. You aren't going to stop people from coping and you make yourself into an easy target by being so honest about your desire for control.

I've already seen many reaction videos pop up of people criticizing Clav and calling him insecure. It's all blue pill cope but what do you expect, frankly I'm happy to see those videos. Let those faggots cope, you shouldn't be trying to wake people up anyway. It's a bit of just deserts for selling out.

Still many people will be that much closer to awareness of the nature of the game and that's not great for you if you want the best possible competitive advantage in the dating market.

I know I will be doing my part to play down the value of looksmaxxing to any normie I speak to.
mirin the high-effort posts
 
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Nah, it’s not bad. Also I’m a looksminner so this doesn’t affect me. :Comfy:
aren't you brown gengar how does that work out for y
 
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aren't you brown gengar how does that work out for y
Yeah, I’m brown but I don’t see what this has to do with the subject. Can you elaborate?
 
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aren't you brown gengar how does that work out for y
Oh ok I just see what you mean, joever for my brownboi brain.

Well, being brown has its advantages as I can never be an incel even if I’m a truecel facially since we have an arranged marriage culture. We can always get a partner if we want to have one. :)
 
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Oh ok I just see what you mean, joever for my brownboi brain.

Well, being brown has its advantages as I can never be an incel even if I’m a truecel facially since we have an arranged marriage culture. We can always get a partner if we want to have one. :)
mirin
 
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Yeah, I think this whole looksmaxxing stuff is more western culture and although many brown people are westernized, some traditions don’t die.
 
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Yeah it's a tough endeavor trying to make it into normie popularity sphere based on a system of beliefs that is incredibly ND and anti normie such as looksmaxxing.

Frankly I don't think it's possible to succeed in that realm without a massive pivot because normies simply cannot be blackpilled en masse nor do they want brutal reality constantly shoved in their faces. You aren't going to stop people from coping and you make yourself into an easy target by being so honest about your desire for control.

I've already seen many reaction videos pop up of people criticizing Clav and calling him insecure. It's all blue pill cope but what do you expect, frankly I'm happy to see those videos. Let those faggots cope, you shouldn't be trying to wake people up anyway. It's a bit of just deserts for selling out.

Still many people will be that much closer to awareness of the nature of the game and that's not great for you if you want the best possible competitive advantage in the dating market.

I know I will be doing my part to play down the value of looksmaxxing to any normie I speak to.
You're right I don't believe the masses can truly get blackpilled as we saw in 2023 ************* and k shami made a very soft version of looksmaxing mainstream that normies could accept but it didn't change anything as many of the preached looksmaxes was straight up copes. K shami and Dillons goal was also only to sell their products not to spread awareness. The only thing that came out of the 2023 leak was everyone knowing the words mog. Now clav is mainstream but way too Extreme so everyone just copes not willing to take in his more extreme version of looksmaxing
 
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Yeah it's a tough endeavor trying to make it into normie popularity sphere based on a system of beliefs that is incredibly ND and anti normie such as looksmaxxing.

Frankly I don't think it's possible to succeed in that realm without a massive pivot because normies simply cannot be blackpilled en masse nor do they want brutal reality constantly shoved in their faces. You aren't going to stop people from coping and you make yourself into an easy target by being so honest about your desire for control.

I've already seen many reaction videos pop up of people criticizing Clav and calling him insecure. It's all blue pill cope but what do you expect, frankly I'm happy to see those videos. Let those faggots cope, you shouldn't be trying to wake people up anyway. It's a bit of just deserts for selling out.

Still many people will be that much closer to awareness of the nature of the game and that's not great for you if you want the best possible competitive advantage in the dating market.

I know I will be doing my part to play down the value of looksmaxxing to any normie I speak to.
Clavicular is actually the best thing to happen to the blackpill lookism going mainstream. If you watch clips from his streams, you’ll see him straight up insulting girls, calling them retards and whores with zero smooth talk, and he still gets their numbers while they smile.

I agree that most normies shouldn’t wake up (or if that's even possible) and should just keep coping, but they definitely do need to wake up to hypergamy and to how many loser guys simp for girls at the absolute bottom, while seeing how the guys the girl actually likes is chosen effortlessly.
 
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Clavicular is actually the best thing to happen to the blackpill lookism going mainstream. If you watch clips from his streams, you’ll see him straight up insulting girls, calling them retards and whores with zero smooth talk, and he still gets their numbers while they smile.

I agree that most normies shouldn’t wake up (or if that's even possible) and should just keep coping, but they definitely do need to wake up to hypergamy and to how many loser guys simp for girls at the absolute bottom, while seeing how the guys the girl actually likes is chosen effortlessly.
I couldn’t care less about being treated like an outcast for having Bp beliefs for ages.
I never wanted others to be aware of it anyway, the consequences would be fatal, all for a small and vanishing feeling of being understood.

Men will act more objectively and focus on their looks, even with extreme measures, many here really underestimate how desperate the average joe is when it comes to sex or female attention/ validation.

Their whole effort in university/ work partly depends on this, they would just transfer that engagement to other areas, like improving their looks.
 
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Making his lookmaxxing tips viral so every cuck will lookmax and girls will be even more hypergamous because better looking guys everywhere.
Ehh who cares but without the "kill yourself and the family of three":owo:

 
You're right I don't believe the masses can truly get blackpilled as we saw in 2023 ************* and k shami made a very soft version of looksmaxing mainstream that normies could accept but it didn't change anything as many of the preached looksmaxes was straight up copes. K shami and Dillons goal was also only to sell their products not to spread awareness. The only thing that came out of the 2023 leak was everyone knowing the words mog. Now clav is mainstream but way too Extreme so everyone just copes not willing to take in his more extreme version of looksmaxing
Yeah, Clav is serious about improvement and most nt people just don't take life that seriously
 
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I couldn’t care less about being treated like an outcast for having Bp beliefs for ages.
I never wanted others to be aware of it anyway, the consequences would be fatal, all for a small and vanishing feeling of being understood.

Men will act more objectively and focus on their looks, even with extreme measures, many here really underestimate how desperate the average joe is when it comes to sex or female attention/ validation.

Their whole effort in university/ work partly depends on this, they would just transfer that engagement to other areas, like improving their looks.
The only thing is that looksmaxxing is genuinely partly cope because many people will still have no hope even if they max

Still more competition is never good. It was fine when people had to have genuine curiosity to find forums like this. I don't agree with just introducing this stuff to regular people who never expressed any real curiosity or earned any insight. What benefit could making normies aware have for you? It has none. It only benefits Clav by making him into a viral lolcow but that's it. Overall it's a net negative for all of us, and even for Clav when he said himself his primary goal is mogging.
 
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There’s northing much to do in LM, your base looks control u
trimax implants double LL, clavicle lengthening dont forget sweet rhino and blepahroplasty. a lipp lift and lipp augmentation after.
 
You're right I don't believe the masses can truly get blackpilled as we saw in 2023 ************* and k shami made a very soft version of looksmaxing mainstream that normies could accept but it didn't change anything as many of the preached looksmaxes was straight up copes. K shami and Dillons goal was also only to sell their products not to spread awareness. The only thing that came out of the 2023 leak was everyone knowing the words mog. Now clav is mainstream but way too Extreme so everyone just copes not willing to take in his more extreme version of looksmaxing
clav does supplements wich are mostly COPE. true looksmaxxing happens on the opperating table.
 
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The only thing is that looksmaxxing is genuinely partly cope because many people will still have no hope even if they max

Still more competition is never good. It was fine when people had to have genuine curiosity to find forums like this. I don't agree with just introducing this stuff to regular people who never expressed any real curiosity or earned any insight. What benefit could making normies aware have for you? It has none. It only benefits Clav by making him into a viral lolcow but that's it. Overall it's a net negative for all of us, and even for Clav when he said himself his primary goal is mogging.
Yes, it is a paradox that so many users celebrate him for this. If you run a simple thought experiment, what happens if everyone else begins doing the same thing? The outcome diverges from the community’s initial goals.

Hypergamy adapts to the surrounding environment, just like everything else.
As the ideas go viral, the broader population adjusts accordingly, which we’re already seeing, and the original users who found the forum for actual reasons, rather than trend-following, are going to be the ones most negatively affected - aka. those who contributed the most likely end up benefiting the least.
 
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not that easy lol people like clav cus he does and says whatever he wants… majority of his young audience isn’t gonna watch one stream and hop on peptides lol
 
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Yes, it is a paradox that so many users celebrate him for this. If you run a simple thought experiment, what happens if everyone else begins doing the same thing? The outcome diverges from the community’s initial goals.

Hypergamy adapts to the surrounding environment, just like everything else.
As the ideas go viral, the broader population adjusts accordingly, which we’re already seeing, and the original users who found the forum for actual reasons, rather than trend-following, are going to be the ones most negatively affected - aka. those who contributed the most likely end up benefiting the least.
Exactly. It's a little entertaining to see BP edits and normie reactions to the content but the dating market is a zero sum game you don't want to be buddy buddy with your competitors.
 
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It is bad he went viral

He's basically throwing the whole community under the bus for fame

K.Shami was the first to attempt it

Stuff like this should be gatekept because the advantage you have is relative to others not trying as hard

When everyone knows looks matter suddenly the bar is raised by just that much

Idk how long this trend of BP will go on but it's in everyone here's best interest that it dies out quickly

Or that Clav turns into a jester that people laugh at or view as an entertaining oddity but don't take too seriously

The only consolation is that even with the knowledge most people still don't really recognize just how valuable looks are. You have to do quite a lot of research to really begin to internalize the beliefs.

I have a friend who I've been telling about looksmaxxing for the past 5 years, he's seen me slay, he's seen me max and yet he's never really taken it seriously. He started talking about Clav recently because he's into braindead normie streamer shit and even then he doesn't really comprehend how important looks are. Even though he works a job where looks are a huge advantage (server in a nice restaurant) and constantly gets complimented on his looks even though he's barely HTN, he still doesn't quite understand how much easier it could be if just tried. He's verified 100 IQ so normie intelligence. Ideally most people react the way he has to the information, it's interesting, provides some slightly valuable info, but don't see it as so integral to actually motivate any serious change in behavior.
Agree clav should be boycotted. Makes this site useless, and everyone is just at their genetic base level + basic lookmaxxing.
 
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But nobody will thats the thing, a lot of us here haven't even started yet so what makes you think normies will
 
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