Is it even possible to gain musles without having more facial bloat??

[Deusmaximus]

Since 2 months i am in a slight calorie surplus (2300 calories), and went from 69kg to 72kg. I can already see a difference in my fat pads around the nasolabial folds, and more roundness of my cheek fat. My face looks fuller and less hallow.
Is this the normal way, and something that happens to everybody?

2.3k calories are not even a lot. Some guy on bodybuilding forums told me to eat 3k. I think i would look like a disgusting balloon within 1-2 weeks.

 

[Deleted member 6785]

just cut more sodium and intake more potassium, stay very hydrated and that should negate some facial bloat

 

[Rich/Jewish_Gooner$]

@Ocelot

 

[Deleted member 5634]

Tren acetate

 

[Carolus]

Yes. I accepted the bloat long ago. Long ago...

 

[Deleted member 6908]

Bored of this question being asked.

As I've said many times before on here:

The vision that you need go surplus and then deficit is overrated. Can you grow muscle while being deficit or just even? Yes is the answer. Its just not optimum for development and you won't be left with healthy lean muscle.

Then again saying that a lot does come down to your genetics. A Jamaican or Egyptian for examples would still achieve pretty impressive results growing while in a deficit.

 

[Deusmaximus]

Bored of this question being asked.

As I've said many times before on here:

The vision that you need go surplus and then deficit is overrated. Can you grow muscle while being deficit or just even? Yes is the answer. Its just not optimum for development and you won't be left with healthy lean muscle.

Then again saying that a lot does come down to your genetics. A Jamaican or Egyptian for examples would still achieve pretty impressive results growing while in a deficit.

Are you eating in surplus or deficite?

 

[Bewusst]

I assume botox didn't cause any more trouble for you and you are fine now?

 

[Deleted member 6908]

Are you eating in surplus or deficite?

Lol how are you not educated on this shit dude?

You are consuming more calories than you are burning in surplus and you're burning more calories than you are consuming in deficit.

 

[Deusmaximus]

Lol how are you not educated on this shit dude?

You are consuming more calories than you are burning in surplus and you're burning more calories than you are consuming in deficit.

I knew this, but i wanted to know what you are doing atm. I saw you are also gymcelling.

 

[Deusmaximus]

I assume botox didn't cause any more trouble for you and you are fine now?

yes. I had problems for 2 days, and now i have a good result of a perfect wrinkle free forehead. The experiment with getting my lateral eyebrows more pct, did not work.
What about your result?

 

[Deleted member 6908]

I knew this, but i wanted to know what you are doing atm. I saw you are also gymcelling.

Some days I am even and some days I am in deficit. Today I was stupidly in surplus, but gonna slip another workout in in around 10-15 minutes before bed.

 

[potentialhabit1]

Since 2 months i am in a slight calorie surplus (2300 calories), and went from 69kg to 72kg. I can already see a difference in my fat pads around the nasolabial folds, and more roundness of my cheek fat. My face looks fuller and less hallow.
Is this the normal way, and something that happens to everybody?

2.3k calories are not even a lot. Some guy on bodybuilding forums told me to eat 3k. I think i would look like a disgusting balloon within 1-2 weeks.

take steroid

 

[Bewusst]

yes. I had problems for 2 days, and now i have a good result of a perfect wrinkle free forehead. The experiment with getting my lateral eyebrows more pct, did not work.
What about your result?

Good to hear. But never get it again, unless you want to come down with botulism or systemic effects like me. It‘s the most toxic substance known to man

 

[Deusmaximus]

Good to hear. But never get it again, unless you want to come down with botulism or systemic effects like me. It‘s the most toxic substance known to man

I get botox since 2 years, every 3-4 months. Seems like i was lucky so far...
How high are the chances for these complications?

 

[Deleted member 5393]

its possible if you are natural, but gear will bloat you up from the glycogen retention

 

[Bewusst]

I get botox since 2 years, every 3-4 months. Seems like i was lucky so far...
How high are the chances for these complications?

1.5 years here. Higher than one might think