Is it over for me?

[Brandon_Ascend]

What do I need to do to improve?

 

[zemult]

Unfortunately yes. Start saving up for surgery

 

[zemult]

How old?

 

[thatnigga22]

its over...

 

[Brandon_Ascend]

How old?

17, is there anything I can do naturally?

 

[zemult]

17, is there anything I can do naturally?

No, start saving up. You're young so you have plenty of time

 

[Brandon_Ascend]

No, start saving up. You're young so you have plenty of time

what do I even need to get?

 

[zemult]

what do I even need to get?

Jaw surgery for starters. You're recessed

For a better analysis of your frontal profile, you should take a mirror selfie from 3 feet away. The selfie is distorting your face so it's hard to get an accurate look

 

[Brandon_Ascend]

Jaw surgery for starters. You're recessed

For a better analysis of your frontal profile, you should take a mirror selfie from 3 feet away. The selfie is distorting your face so it's hard to get an accurate look

I was thinking that, do I need lower or upper or both? also, I have braces, so will it potentially get better? I have gotten a little of forward growth in my lower jaw.

 

[Brandon_Ascend]

Jaw surgery for starters. You're recessed

For a better analysis of your frontal profile, you should take a mirror selfie from 3 feet away. The selfie is distorting your face so it's hard to get an accurate look

Is this better?

 

[zemult]

Is this better?

Yes. Focus on jaw surgery. You're a LTN cutecel

 

[Brandon_Ascend]

Yes. Focus on jaw surgery. You're a LTN cutecel

what does ltn cutecel mean? I am new to this.

 

[zemult]

what does ltn cutecel mean? I am new to this.

LTN means you are below average, and cutecel means you're below average due to your lack of dimorphism.

You also look Asian which gives you an ethnic tax

 

[Brandon_Ascend]

LTN means you are below average, and cutecel means you're below average due to your lack of dimorphism.

You also look Asian which gives you an ethnic tax

I am asian lol. Do you think my orthodontist would know what I need to achieve better forward growth?

 

[zemult]

I am asian lol. Do you think my orthodontist would know what I need to achieve better forward growth?

If you have a bad bite then yes. If not it would be considered a cosmetic change and you would have to save up money

 

[Brandon_Ascend]

If you have a bad bite then yes. If not it would be considered a cosmetic change and you would have to save up money

I had a class 2 overbite, and my teeth were crooked, but they look a lot better and straighter now. Are there any supplements I would need to take? I asked chatgpt and it said there could be a little window for some growth depending on my genetics.

 

[zemult]

I had a class 2 overbite, and my teeth were crooked, but they look a lot better and straighter now. Are there any supplements I would need to take? I asked chatgpt and it said there could be a little window for some growth depending on my genetics.

Unfortunately you're at an age where your face development from now won't be significant. I would just focus on getting money asap.

 

[Brandon_Ascend]

Unfortunately you're at an age where your face development from now won't be significant. I would just focus on getting money asap.

alr, so what type of surgery would I need? I know you said jaw surgery, but is there a specific type? Like lefort, bimax, or smth?

 

[zemult]

alr, so what type of surgery would I need? I know you said jaw surgery, but is there a specific type? Like lefort, bimax, or smth?

I'm not the best user for pointing out the exact surgery you need. I can just tell you're recessed

 

[Brandon_Ascend]

I'm not the best user for pointing out the exact surgery you need. I can just tell you're recessed

alr, sorry for asking a lot of questions, but I heard about thumbpulling and mewing. will either of these help me improve?

 

[zemult]

alr, sorry for asking a lot of questions, but I heard about thumbpulling and mewing. will either of these help me improve?

No. All psuedoscience, mewing's only promising results is from children aged 8 and under because their skulls are the most malleable

 

[zemult]

You should mew anyways though. Hyoid bone improvements and it may prevent any further recession

 

[Brandon_Ascend]

No. All psuedoscience, mewing's only promising results is from children aged 8 and under because their skulls are the most malleable

damn, well do you know how I can find someone who knows which surgeries I need? and do they even do surgeries for 17 year olds?

 

[zemult]

damn, well do you know how I can find someone who knows which surgeries I need? and do they even do surgeries for 17 year olds?

They do if it's functional and funded by insurance. Otherwise you will have to wait a year, regardless you don't even have the money saved up yet do you?

 

[Brandon_Ascend]

No. All psuedoscience, mewing's only promising results is from children aged 8 and under because their skulls are the most malleable

damn, well do you know how I can find someone who knows which surgeries I need? and do they even do surgeries for 17 year olds?

They do if it's functional and funded by insurance. Otherwise you will have to wait a year, regardless you don't even have the money saved up yet do you?

how much would it cost? and do you think it would be safer in Korea? I heard they are known for their cosmetic procedures

 

[zemult]

damn, well do you know how I can find someone who knows which surgeries I need? and do they even do surgeries for 17 year olds?

how much would it cost? and do you think it would be safer in Korea? I heard they are known for their cosmetic procedures

Using Bimax as an example expect $30-40K minimum

 

[Brandon_Ascend]

Using Bimax as an example expect $30-40K minimum

would it be cheaper in korea? and would it be better or worse?

 

[Nenoh]

what country are you from?

 

[zemult]

would it be cheaper in korea? and would it be better or worse?

I wouldn't go for the cheapest, jaw surgeries are serious and you will regret it if they do a terrible job on your face. Look up Dr. Sunil Richardson's Bimax cases.

 

[zemult]

I wouldn't go for the cheapest, jaw surgeries are serious and you will regret it if they do a terrible job on your face. Look up Dr. Sunil Richardson's Bimax cases.

as an example of terrible Bimax

 

[Nenoh]

would it be cheaper in korea? and would it be better or worse?

oh from korea, south or north?
are you average there right?

 

[Brandon_Ascend]

oh from korea, south or north?
are you average there right?

dude I am an american citizen lol

 

[Nenoh]

dude I am an american citizen lol

oh shit
its fucking over
start saving. i recommend using implants

 

[Brandon_Ascend]

as an example of terrible Bimax

how do I know if they are good then?

 

[Brandon_Ascend]

oh shit
its fucking over
start saving. i recommend using implants

so do I need surgery or implants?

 

[Nenoh]

so do I need surgery or implants?

surgery