Is it over?

[RuffTuffCreampuff]

16, probably high body fat %, already had braces and one tooth removed. Is it over? Or is there hope via softmaxxing, hardmaxxing, etc. Probably should get lean first but whatever.

 

[RuffTuffCreampuff]

Jutting in some pics too, btw.

 

[Star Gazing]

bro needs every surgery i can think of

 

[aymangue]

16, probably high body fat %, already had braces and one tooth removed. Is it over? Or is there hope via softmaxxing, hardmaxxing, etc. Probably should get lean first but whatever.

Get leaner first

 

[valentine]

you look unique

 

[RuffTuffCreampuff]

bro needs every surgery i can think of

Such as?

 

[Star Gazing]

Such as?

Bimax
Supra orbital implants
Lefort 3
Canthoplasty
Rhynoplasty
For now

 

[hollowcaulk]

Bimax
Supra orbital implants
Lefort 3
Canthoplasty
Rhynoplasty
For now

for now salt in the wound

 

[RuffTuffCreampuff]

I’ll likely get rhino done but what do supra orbital implants do? Make my brow ridge more prominent?

 

[maxilla-not-found]

your gonna be a cuck for your whole life

 

[RuffTuffCreampuff]

your gonna be a cuck for your whole life

Can’t be a cuck if I have no partner man

 

[Star Gazing]

Can’t be a cuck if I have no partner man

Faggotmaxx

 

[Askeladd93270]

I’ll likely get rhino done but what do supra orbital implants do? Make my brow ridge more prominent?

The 1 you need the least is rhino

 

[GreekGenes]

i mean realistically fucking speaking which no one of the above has so far you're pretty much cooked in the looks department

 

[RuffTuffCreampuff]

The 1 you need the least is rhino

Ok but I’m not trying to reconstruct my whole face here. Rhino is least intrusive it seems.

 

[Askeladd93270]

Ok but I’m not trying to reconstruct my whole face here. Rhino is least intrusive it seems.

It's your choice to stay subhuman not mine you rhino will change nothing you will just suffer lose money and time

 

[RuffTuffCreampuff]

i mean realistically fucking speaking which no one of the above has so far you're pretty much cooked in the looks department

Sub ltn? Softmaxxing out of picture?

 

[RuffTuffCreampuff]

i mean realistically fucking speaking which no one of the above has so far you're pretty much cooked in the looks department

So rope basically, or extreme hard max. Sub 3?

 

[GreekGenes]

So rope basically, or extreme hard max. Sub 3?

No, never rope.

I may have been a bit too harsh in my initial comment. But you should be aware that softmaxxing will probably not be enough.

 

[RuffTuffCreampuff]

No, never rope.

I may have been a bit too harsh in my initial comment. But you should be aware that softmaxxing will probably not be enough.

surely not sub 3 or 2? I suppose I’ll wait a few years, try my luck dating a bit more, get lean, check the monastery situation and evaluate if it I should start getting surgery. Hopefully end of puberty helps a little, though I doubt it. Only problem is that everyone I know will probably know I have had surgery (I’ve got a unique face) and I don’t know if I can stand the shame and judgement. Also family would never pay for it.

 

[CookieGuy]

You are LTN and definitely need jaw and mouth surgeries. Your maxilla is recessed.

Rn you are ugly tier

 

[CookieGuy]

surely not sub 3 or 2? I suppose I’ll wait a few years, try my luck dating a bit more, get lean, check the monastery situation and evaluate if it I should start getting surgery. Hopefully end of puberty helps a little, though I doubt it. Only problem is that everyone I know will probably know I have had surgery (I’ve got a unique face) and I don’t know if I can stand the shame and judgement. Also family would never pay for it.

Trust me. Get surgery before trying to date. Unless you want to be in a chair facing a hotel bed

 

[SoberAndRetarded]

You’re 16 so you’re still growing looks like you’re in an awkward phase. You have a good chin (tall, not recessed) your eye area is good and you have a pretty good jaw too, those 3 things are like the top 3 things you want. I would say just make sure you’re lifting and taking care of your teeth because your base is fine.

 

[RuffTuffCreampuff]

Trust me. Get surgery before trying to date. Unless you want to be in a chair facing a hotel bed

You don’t need to be a mogger chad to try dating or be cucked. No harm, no foul. I don’t want to have 30 screws in my head and my entire family knowing I am a face tranny because I didn’t try to use what I have.

You’re 16 so you’re still growing looks like you’re in an awkward phase. You have a good chin (tall, not recessed) your eye area is good and you have a pretty good jaw too, those 3 things are like the top 3 things you want. I would say just make sure you’re lifting and taking care of your teeth because your base is fine.

Thanks man, it’s not all doom and gloom after all. I agree with your comments, though I don’t know about my eye area.

 

[SoberAndRetarded]

You don’t need to be a mogger chad to try dating or be cucked. No harm, no foul. I don’t want to have 30 screws in my head and my entire family knowing I am a face tranny because I didn’t try to use what I have.

Thanks man, it’s not all doom and gloom after all. I agree with your comments, though I don’t know about my eye area.

your eye area is good

 

[RuffTuffCreampuff]

your eye area is good

Thanks. What ARE my main failos then, other than facial fat.

 

[Deleted member 99664]

Thanks. What ARE my main failos then, other than facial fat.

Nose. Also, is your mouth position normal or did you pose for the pictures? Rest is alright

 

[RuffTuffCreampuff]

Nose. Also, is your mouth position normal or did you pose for the pictures? Rest is alright

Last photo and first photo I’m jutting it slightly.

 

[Deleted member 99664]

Last photo and first photo I’m jutting it slightly.

Alright, 4th one looks ok, for harmony maybe filler (top left looks skinnier than rest) but it can even out with puberty. Wait 2-4 years before filler

 

[RuffTuffCreampuff]

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Alright, 4th one looks ok, for harmony maybe filler (top left looks skinnier than rest) but it can even out with puberty. Wait 2-4 years before filler

Filler for what, sorry? And is my face assymmetric

 

[Deleted member 99664]

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Filler for what, sorry? And is my face assymmetric

Just your top lip

 

[RuffTuffCreampuff]

Im possibly sucking it in that picture due to jutting. The others are more representative of my face, so I may or may not need filler. It’s hard to tell at 16 but I suppose the best thing is to.

 

[1ofcyberjunk]

you'll be fine, just lean max. do fasting and be very strict to yourself don't give it up.

you won't know what your potential is or what you ACTUALLY look like if you don't lean max, it'll completely change your face. lose the fat you will be OK

 

[Askeladd93270]

surely not sub 3 or 2? I suppose I’ll wait a few years, try my luck dating a bit more, get lean, check the monastery situation and evaluate if it I should start getting surgery. Hopefully end of puberty helps a little, though I doubt it. Only problem is that everyone I know will probably know I have had surgery (I’ve got a unique face) and I don’t know if I can stand the shame and judgement. Also family would never pay for it.

If you care about judgement, family opinion and on top of that you want them to pay for it then it's over mentality makes it never over if your ego isn't big enough so that these thoughts never even cross your mind then it's over,

 

[RuffTuffCreampuff]

If you care about judgement, family opinion and on top of that you want them to pay for it then it's over mentality makes it never over if your ego isn't big enough so that these thoughts never even cross your mind then it's over,

I have a large ego cause I still get some attention from girls, have strong friendships and good familial bonds and am mostly just focusing on study and pleasure at this point, as well as pursuing intellectual interests. I’m not at a point of desperation, and am generally an asserting and forceful personality so it probably never over for me. I was joking about roping before, I would sooner cut my balls off to stop sexual desire than kill myself over no pussy.

 

[Askeladd93270]

I have a large ego cause I still get some attention from girls, have strong friendships and good familial bonds and am mostly just focusing on study and pleasure at this point, as well as pursuing intellectual interests. I’m not at a point of desperation, and am generally an asserting and forceful personality so it probably never over for me. I was joking about roping before, I would sooner cut my balls off to stop sexual desire than kill myself over no pussy.

and I don’t know if I can stand the shame and judgement. Also family would never pay for it.

 

[swt]

sorry bro

 

[sub5pslathlete]

Bimax
Supra orbital implants
Lefort 3
Canthoplasty
Rhynoplasty
For now

Retard grey talking about lefort 3

 

[RuffTuffCreampuff]

and I don’t know if I can stand the shame and judgement. Also family would never pay for it.

What

Retard grey talking about lefort 3

is it overkill for me or what

 

[LKSMAXPerson]

Harmony is not there. Probably surgery ngl. Their might be someone out there for you

 

[RuffTuffCreampuff]

No jut front profile, perhaps better/more natural looking (eyes liked a bit uneven as I’m tired)

 

[RuffTuffCreampuff]

Also is my midface too long? Not sure/can’t be bothered to calculate

 

[Deleted member 105759]

16, probably high body fat %, already had braces and one tooth removed. Is it over? Or is there hope via softmaxxing, hardmaxxing, etc. Probably should get lean first but whatever.

not ovER but not good

 

[RuffTuffCreampuff]

not ovER but not good

Main areas of improvement?

 

[Deleted member 105759]

Main areas of improvement?

facial reconstruction

 

[Deleted member 105759]

facial reconstruction

ik a dude uglier than u that pulls- shave the mustache, grow out the hair get lean and personalitymaxx. Surgeries r if u want to slay the baddies bro u r fxcked mf gonna need >$130k in surgery start saving up

 

[RuffTuffCreampuff]

facial reconstruction

I aint trying to be James Sapphire grey. Small areas of improvement are fine

 

[Deleted member 105759]

U need to do the following to get to mid HTN (your genetic potential + surgeries):

Hardmaxxing:

• Bimax Double-Jaw Surgery
• Trimax Surgery
• Zygo Implants
• Malar Implants
• Ramus Implants
• Ramus Angle Surgery
• Orbital Box Osteotomy
• Canthoplasty
• Upper-eyelid Blepharoplasty
• Lower-eyelid Blepharoplasty
• Rhinoplasty
• Ethnic Rhinoplasty
• Septoplasty
• Lefort 3 Surgery
• Buccal Fat Removal
• Infra-Orbital Implants
• Supra-Orbital Surgery
• Genioplasty (Chin Bone Contouring)
• Chin Implants
• Jaw Implants
• Clavicle Lengthening Surgery
• Limb Lengthening Surgery (tibia and femur)
• Almond Eye Surgery
• Fat Grafting
• Skin Laser Resurfacing
• Cheek Filler
• Jaw Filler
• Chin Filler
• Upper Lip Lift
• Lip Filler
• Steroids/Testosterone
• Facelift
• Lip Widening Surgery
• Neck Lift
• Cheek Augmentation Surgery (Malarplasty)
• Forehead Reduction Surgery
• Skull Reshaping Surgery
• Face Shortening Surgery
• LeFort 1 osteotomy
• Lefort 2
• Trimax Surgery
• Zygo filler
• HGH (Testosterone)
• Skin Microneedling
• Midfacing contouring surgery
• Lip lift
• Tripod Osteotomy
• Botox
• Derma fillers
• Face Liposuction
• Orthognathic Surgery
• Cheiloplasty
• Chin Surgery (Mentoplasty)
• Temporal Lift (Lateral Brow Lift)
• Lip Augmentation Surgery
• Double Eyelid Surgery (Asian Blepharoplasty)
• Infrazygo implant

Softmaxxing:

• Get jacked and lean (abs, v-shape taper, thin and ripped)
• Get to 10-12% bf
• Retinoids, Moisturizers, Infoliators, Vitamin-C serums, and b-carotene for glowing debloated, small pores clean skin
• Bro-Glo Self-Tanner on body and face
• Get Low-taper fade with textured fade
• Wear natural grey eye contacts
• Dye hair natural blonde
• Mewing
• Chewing Hard Mastic Gum
• Thumbpulling
• Zygopulling
• Eyepulling
• Squintmaxxing
• Minodixil on eyebrows and hair
• Eyelash curler for upside-down U look
• Apply Vilofine over the eye area
• Use caffeine cream to reduce puffiness and purpleness under the eyes
• Get 10 hours minimum of sleep
• Apply foundation and men’s makeup for contouring and more beautiful skin
• 3 Cold Showers daily
• Running 4-5 days a week
• Swimming 5 days a week
• Heavy Lifting 3 days a week
• Grow out hair long
• Wear Calithe Watch
• Wear black fitted t-shirts
• Wear black/dark brown cargo pants
• Wear black sweatpants
• Wear white linen pants
• Where college crewneck
• Wear all white vans
• Where 3-inch shoes
• Wear additional 3-inch increasing height extenders in shoes
• Wear a corset under a fitted black T-shirt
• Wear Shoulder pads undershirt
• Apply hair gel and salt spray to hair for fluffiness
• Wear neutral-colored Boat shoes
• Make at least $600k/year
• Drive Ferrari 488, Porsche GTR3 RS, Range Rover-Land Rover, Mercedes SUV (all matte black)
• Have $5 million in reserves
• Use ice masks/face masks
• Use gua gua shade in the morning
• Drink 1L of Coconut water daily
• Eat lots of steaks, grilled chicken, whole grains, smoothies, natural sugared fruits, reduce salt intake, reduce processed food intake, reduce sugar intake (only have natural sugars, cut out soda, lots of salads, vegetables, and fruits), eat lots of potassium
• Smudged Egyptian eyeliner in the eye area
• Dark black beard dye for eyebrows to darken
• A little bit of mascara on the eyelashes
• Creatine for muscle growth
• Neck training to widen/thicken the neck
• Voice exercises for a deeper voice
• Dress preppy (like those in Brooks Brothers/Ralph Lauren/J. Crew F/W campaigns in ‘80s-’90s)
• Get rid of glasses
• Get neck
• Sock lifts
• Use Sodium Hydroxide for clean white teeth
• Nose lift clip
• Nose inserts
• 1-2 small Temporary tattoos
• Fake inflicted scar on face and body
• Henna freckles
• Contour/tanning lotion to fraud more defined abs/muscles
• Put socks in pants to make a bigger bulge in the groin area
• Get fake realistic followers on Instagram for social media status
• Grow a light stubble to emphasize a more defined jawline/chin
• Become a renowned Architect
• Become rich
• Graduate with PhD at Harvard for Architecture at age 25
• Get a tan Burberry trench coat
• Get black Oxford shoes
• Set up a stock index, start an investing portfolio, invest in Crypto/NFTS
• Fraud in photos with lighting/angle editing and manipulation
• Bonesmashing
• Nose breathing (use nose tape)
• Zygomatic Tape
• Face tape
• Edging for a few more years
• Get at least 1 hour of sunlight outside every day
• 2-day fasting every month (starvemaxxing)
• Jelquing
• Apply talcum powder on the face daily
• Use Egyptian eyebrow pencils
• Use Egyptian eyeliner pencil, get it messy by rubbing it in around the eye area
• Liquid blush for rosy cheeks and pink undertone (Loreal or Rosy Lip Palm)
• Lip liner for thin lips (can widen a bit)
• Use a contouring stick to fraud jawline, cheekbones, nose
• Concealer pen for eyebags acne scars and blemishes
• Use sunscreen daily when outside
• Get into the student council
• Play sports and play varsity tennis, and golf, post on social media
• Work on social skills, start approaching and having conversations with girls, make more male friends, build connections and networking
• Use a designer cologne and apply a few squirts over body and clothing
• Hyaluronidase fat dissolver on face
• Consider magic mushrooms to boost confidence and cure depression
• Try pro-social drugs like weed to boost social status and get better social skills
• Exfoliate lips

Everything abt u is fucked. Do all this and you'll be good

 

[Deleted member 105759]

I aint trying to be James Sapphire grey. Small areas of improvement are fine

u need to know the rt ppl. Trust me and go w/ Giant @RealSurgerymax & (Dr. Celal or Pagnoni).

 

[RuffTuffCreampuff]

ik a dude uglier than u that pulls- shave the mustache, grow out the hair get lean and personalitymaxx. Surgeries r if u want to slay the baddies bro u r fxcked mf gonna need >$130k in surgery start saving up

I must be delusional cause I don’t that im THAT ugly to be honest. I look better in motion or something. This might be cope but I dont know Other people in thread said I wasn't so bad, had a good base to go off.