Is it possible that facial fat is making my face extremely undefined

[Deleted member 27836]

- From the reactions I get of strangers, I'm like a 2/10
- I have a fat belly, but am otherwise skinny

I saw a picture of myself of when I was 11 years old. I had quite a square jaw, definitely squarer than now, I was very good looking back then (now I'm very ugly and look unattractively feminine). I already came into puberty early when I was 10. Then from 12 onwards, my looks began to decrease dramatically (skull and face), till I was 14. I was and am a literal 2/10 since then, people have since then always given me weird looks, laughed etc. (* see cursive writing for background)

One year ago, I went to a Dr in Switzerland who does only jaw surgeries (accident victims mostly). He made 3D scans and 2d scans of my skull. I have a strong jaw, but it just looks and feels very feminine (I'm cis-male of course, but something went wrong during puberty).

I went to him with the goal of "wanting a more masculine face" (mine is extremely feminine, but in an ugly way).
He said 2 things: (1) "there's more to being a man than having a masculine face", followed by (2) "your [according to the scans] is masculine." If I feel by jaw bones/jaw, for me they are round underneath the fat. So why did he say (2)? I am 70% sure he lied with number 2.

He suggested buccal fat removal. Now my question: did he lie with the second part, "your jaw, according to the scans, is masculine"?
My face is quite narrow in relation to my side profile

I just remembered many traumatising events and summarised them below. So, so brutal. I hate my life.

I remember I was out with my dog, and a small girl (about 8) walked towards me with her parents. The kid said, "why does this man look so weird?", to which the parents reacted shocked. Once, I heard a girl (about 12) say to her dad "he looks like a monster", and the dad just laughed (this was like 7 years ago).


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*Brutal story: I went to Hawaii once on holiday with my family (In 2012, I was 15 years old):
- on the flight to Hawaii, it started: a man was there with his daughter, and the man kept giving me weird looks. I had a window seat, and on the other side of the plane (horizontally to me) there was a girl also with a window seat. She was like 15 or 16, similar age as me. She was cute, I thought. Even more brutal, bc she looked at me with a mixture of repulsion, confusion, and curiosity
- In Hawaii: there was a girl there at the hotel, she was probably 16. Me and my dad were walking around the resort. She smiled at my dad, then eyed me weirdly and didn't smile, but kept staring (she obviously wondered about my looks). Brutal...
- I was waiting for a taxi (at a small airport) with my family. A mother was there with her small son. The mother looked at me, very shocked, and pulled her son away, still eyeing me with shock. All I was doing was standing there, I didn't even look at them before, only when she starred at me in shock.
- On a day trip to some volcano, I overheard a young man (18?) say to his friend about me: "if I'd look like that I'd kms"
- back home in Europe at the airport, after we landed, a woman stared at me in shock, and a man shook his head when I looked at him


DAMN I HATE MY LIFE BRO
I want these people to burn in hell, why is there no justice?

 

[5.5psl]

Bro this thread would have got 100x better if you just posted your face

 

[Deleted member 27836]

Bro this thread would have got 100x better if you just posted your face

I have trust-issues, I’d love to post I really would. Maybe in a few months. I don’t even send face one DM, not yet

 

[Deleted member 1901]

Yeah it’s definitely possible. PM me pics bro, I swear you can trust me

 

[Deleted member 27836]

Yeah it’s definitely possible. PM me pics bro, I swear you can trust me

ok man, end of summer. I have exams in June, don’t wanna worry about getting doxxed. I know I can probably trust you but I’ll still always have doubts. Sometime in august if you’re still around by then. Remind me!

 

[Cheek0]

you are skinnyfat... i am too. so what you should do Is actually bulk if you are skinny then cut down on sweats and eat warrior diet until lean

 

[RazerGlazer]

- I have a fat belly, but am otherwise skinny

So you are skinny fat. Fix that. It looks really bad on you

I suppose you dont go at all to gym.

 

[britishchadlite]

Sounds like insulin resistance/high prolactin and Estrogen bloat. Just go keto bro.

 

[britishchadlite]

Sounds like insulin resistance/high prolactin and Estrogen bloat. Just go keto bro.

 

[Deleted member 27836]

So you are skinny fat. Fix that. It looks really bad on you

I suppose you dont go at all to gym.

You supposed correctly. I have treadmill and water-rower at home, also dumbells and pull up bar but I never use anything bc I never sa a point; I’m deformed anyway with medically asymmetric eyes and orbits (really bad)

Would sit ups help too? My mom got mad that I never do them and that I’m “lazy” and “have zero ambition”. I’m 26, have really thin arms and can barely do 4 push-ups and 4 pull ups

 

[RazerGlazer]

- I have a fat belly, but am otherwise skinny

So you are skinny fat. Fix that. It looks really bad on me.

I suppose you dont go at all to gym.

You supposed correctly. I have treadmill and water-rower at home, also dumbells and pull up bar but I never use anything bc I never sa a point; I’m deformed anyway with medically asymmetric eyes and orbits (really bad)

Would sit ups help too? My mom got mad that I never do them and that I’m “lazy” and “have zero ambition”. I’m 26, have really thin arms and can barely do 4 push-ups and 4 pull ups

Go to gym bro. Change your body.

Become lean and healthy.

I was the same as you and i just changed my diet - only veggies and meat. I am pretty lean now from skinny fat. You dont need to bulk bro.

 

[Deleted member 27836]

Go to gym bro. Change your body.

Become lean and healthy.

I was the same as you and i just changed my diet - only veggies and meat. I am pretty lean now from skinny fat. You dont need to bulk bro.

ok, I just have to get over the fact that people will make fun of me (I went to the gym twice 2 years ago, I'm very ugly and short, and people joked about me, makes you insecure)

 

[nukenasty]

Didn't read your whole post since it deviated but just lose weight if that's the issue. Not exactly rocket science. Don't even need to go to the gym if you're not trying to gain muscle.

 

[Whatashame]

I have trust-issues, I’d love to post I really would. Maybe in a few months. I don’t even send face one DM, not yet

just post with imgur and delete it later

 

[Alton]

:^(

- From the reactions I get of strangers, I'm like a 2/10
- I have a fat belly, but am otherwise skinny

I saw a picture of myself of when I was 11 years old. I had quite a square jaw, definitely squarer than now, I was very good looking back then (now I'm very ugly and look unattractively feminine). I already came into puberty early when I was 10. Then from 12 onwards, my looks began to decrease dramatically (skull and face), till I was 14. I was and am a literal 2/10 since then, people have since then always given me weird looks, laughed etc. (* see cursive writing for background)

One year ago, I went to a Dr in Switzerland who does only jaw surgeries (accident victims mostly). He made 3D scans and 2d scans of my skull. I have a strong jaw, but it just looks and feels very feminine (I'm cis-male of course, but something went wrong during puberty).

I went to him with the goal of "wanting a more masculine face" (mine is extremely feminine, but in an ugly way).
He said 2 things: (1) "there's more to being a man than having a masculine face", followed by (2) "your [according to the scans] is masculine." If I feel by jaw bones/jaw, for me they are round underneath the fat. So why did he say (2)? I am 70% sure he lied with number 2.

He suggested buccal fat removal. Now my question: did he lie with the second part, "your jaw, according to the scans, is masculine"?
My face is quite narrow in relation to my side profile

I just remembered many traumatising events and summarised them below. So, so brutal. I hate my life.

I remember I was out with my dog, and a small girl (about 8) walked towards me with her parents. The kid said, "why does this man look so weird?", to which the parents reacted shocked. Once, I heard a girl (about 12) say to her dad "he looks like a monster", and the dad just laughed (this was like 7 years ago).


- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
*Brutal story: I went to Hawaii once on holiday with my family (In 2012, I was 15 years old):
- on the flight to Hawaii, it started: a man was there with his daughter, and the man kept giving me weird looks. I had a window seat, and on the other side of the plane (horizontally to me) there was a girl also with a window seat. She was like 15 or 16, similar age as me. She was cute, I thought. Even more brutal, bc she looked at me with a mixture of repulsion, confusion, and curiosity
- In Hawaii: there was a girl there at the hotel, she was probably 16. Me and my dad were walking around the resort. She smiled at my dad, then eyed me weirdly and didn't smile, but kept staring (she obviously wondered about my looks). Brutal...
- I was waiting for a taxi (at a small airport) with my family. A mother was there with her small son. The mother looked at me, very shocked, and pulled her son away, still eyeing me with shock. All I was doing was standing there, I didn't even look at them before, only when she starred at me in shock.
- On a day trip to some volcano, I overheard a young man (18?) say to his friend about me: "if I'd look like that I'd kms"
- back home in Europe at the airport, after we landed, a woman stared at me in shock, and a man shook his head when I looked at him


DAMN I HATE MY LIFE BRO
I want these people to burn in hell, why is there no justice?

 

[pcmaxing]

If you bf% is too high. Yes it makes your face look extremely undefined.
can he tell from scans if underneath you have good bone structure … I’m not expert but yes Im -terry sure he can tell this .. someone correct me if I’m wrong

 

[Deleted member 27836]

If you bf% is too high. Yes it makes your face look extremely undefined.
can he tell from scans if underneath you have good bone structure … I’m not expert but yes Im -terry sure he can tell this .. someone correct me if I’m wrong

You’re not wrong. Yes he can tell. They were head scans that cost me 700 Francs.

He said “you have a masculine jaw according to the scans.” Remember this is a craniofacial surgeon who does heavy surgeries

But 1) he didn’t suggest losing fat; he said he’d take out buccal fat pads. He said “there are other things that define a man rather than a masculine face. 2) he might just have lied to make me feel good. I wish I have the scans. Although I actually have a right to them. This was in March 2022.

I really regret doing absolutely nothing and instead sitting around and eating junk food since March 2020. It’s not like I didn’t have time. I really regret that. And here I am. 26, closer to 30 than to 20

 

[lelouch]

You are not lean enough until you can see your abs

 

[Deleted member 21403]

So much autism text and not a single pic not even an xray of your jaw that you had

How tf are we supposed to know nigga

ALso jfl just ask for the scans you paid 700 euros for (holy jewness btw). He will give it to you. Than post the scan here

 

[LebenistneHure]

It is possible.

 

[pcmaxing]

If you bf% is too high. Yes it makes your face look extremely undefined.
can he tell from scans if underneath you have good bone structure … I’m not expert but yes Im -terry sure he can tell this .. someone correct me if I’m wrong

You’re not wrong. Yes he can tell. They were head scans that cost me 700 Francs.

He said “you have a masculine jaw according to the scans.” Remember this is a craniofacial surgeon who does heavy surgeries

But 1) he didn’t suggest losing fat; he said he’d take out buccal fat pads. He said “there are other things that define a man rather than a masculine face. 2) he might just have lied to make me feel good. I wish I have the scans. Although I actually have a right to them. This was in March 2022.

I really regret doing absolutely nothing and instead sitting around and eating junk food since March 2020. It’s not like I didn’t have time. I really regret that. And here I am. 26, closer to 30 than to 20

i suggest losing fat before doing buccal . Some say long run it’s starts looking terrible with age. Lose the bf first and see where you stand

 

[Deleted member 27729]

Objectively speaking , facial fat is bad

 

[Dodevu]

You could start at improving your sodium/potassium ratios

 

[Mr.Proper]

Show the scans to see if you have the base for leanmaxing. Picture worth a thousand words.

 

[Deleted member 27836]

Show the scans to see if you have the base for leanmaxing. Picture worth a thousand words.

I will. I feel stupid asking the doctors office one year later, but hey I have a legal right to them and I'll post next week when I hopefully have them