Is it selfish to have kids?

[Bartarus]

I personally think no, infact I am of the opinion that it is selfish not to have kids because one of the biggest problems in first world nations is the demographical collapse that occurred due to a decline in birth rates. But I want to hear what the good folks of .org have to say.

 

[Just Blast]

very if your ugly (the j was speaking to me)

 

[lefortneeded]

Depends on your genes

 

[crazyguy]

I personally think no, infact I am of the opinion that it is selfish not to have kids because one of the biggest problems in first world nations is the demographical collapse that occurred due to a decline in birth rates. But I want to hear what the good folks of .org have to say.

depends on if their life is gonna be ass or not

 

[trueadam1]

depends on the case, for me it definitely would be because my genes are borderline subhuman dog shit

 

[Bartarus]

depends on if their life is gonna be ass or not

That's the classic utilitarian argument of whether or not their birth will result in more happiness than suffering, but the problem with this line of thinking is that we have no way of predicting this.

 

[Aox Ofwar]

I personally think no, infact I am of the opinion that it is selfish not to have kids because one of the biggest problems in first world nations is the demographical collapse that occurred due to a decline in birth rates. But I want to hear what the good folks of .org have to say.

No just make sure they don't end up here

 

[crazyguy]

That's the classic utilitarian argument of whether or not their birth will result in more happiness than suffering, but the problem with this line of thinking is that we have no way of predicting this.

if you feel "ready" to have kids and have the resources and knowledge to take care of them.

 

[Laqi]

I personally think no, infact I am of the opinion that it is selfish not to have kids because one of the biggest problems in first world nations is the demographical collapse that occurred due to a decline in birth rates. But I want to hear what the good folks of .org have to say.

Doesn't matter, even if you are millionare chad it is still very selfish Muhh I want someone to continue my bloodline, now tell me how is not that selfish
Do I care about it being selfish?
Hell nah I m creating another Mtn if I get chance

 

[Bartarus]

if you feel "ready" to have kids and have the resources and knowledge to take care of them.

If that's what you mean then yea, I would agree that having a child while knowing that you will not be able to properly care for them is selfish.

 

[Lefty Rankin]

I personally think no, infact I am of the opinion that it is selfish not to have kids because one of the biggest problems in first world nations is the demographical collapse that occurred due to a decline in birth rates. But I want to hear what the good folks of .org have to say.

I think Westerners are very very stupid. They want to make everything perfect before they have children. It's bullshit. I'm a Westerner.

When my son was born my wife and I had been living at the Red Roof Inn for half a month. My son will go way farther than any of my stupid older cousins who had to betabuxx and acquire a "fairytale" lifestyle before having kids. They're the type of people who put their kids in daycare on their birthdays so they can enjoy them without their children lol. What kind of defective retards the poor kids will grow into I'm not sure.

 

[Lefty Rankin]

Doesn't matter, even if you are millionare chad it is still very selfish Muhh I want someone to continue my bloodline, now tell me how is not that selfish
Do I care about it being selfish?
Hell nah I m creating another Mtn if I get chance

How is it selfish though?

 

[Laqi]

How is it selfish though?

How is it not? You want to bring another human into existence just so your shit gets continued

 

[Lefty Rankin]

How is it not? You want to bring another human into existence just so your shit gets continued

What's wrong with bringing a human into existence?

 

[Bartarus]

Bump

 

[trueadam1]

What's wrong with bringing a human into existence?

theyre gonna live a shitty life

 

[turkcelfatcel]

I personally think no, infact I am of the opinion that it is selfish not to have kids because one of the biggest problems in first world nations is the demographical collapse that occurred due to a decline in birth rates. But I want to hear what the good folks of .org have to say.

Depends
Are you and ur wife's genetics good
If not dont make kids

 

[Lefty Rankin]

Depends
Are you and ur wife's genetics good
If not dont make kids

Good enough.

 

[gigacumster3000]

lmao you're delusional if you think having kids is selfish just because of some vague demographic issues

 

[Bartarus]

lmao you're delusional if you think having kids is selfish just because of some vague demographic issues

Hey buddy maybe having a little reading comprehension and understand that I said the opposite

 

[wewuzaryans134]

every consecutive child will get worse and worse genes
so if you want to reduce your chances of a subhuman go for 1-2 kids

 

[buddhistking]

It doesnt matter who you are or how good ur genes are or how rich you are ur kid will suffer so its selfish

 

[Bartarus]

It doesnt matter who you are or how good ur genes are or how rich you are ur kid will suffer so its selfish

Well yes, but they will also experience joy and happiness.

 

[Mitakaa1341]

depends on the race

 

[buddhistking]

Well yes, but they will also experience joy and happiness.

Joy and happiness do not make up for growing old, watching ur whole family die then getting health issues and dying yourself

 

[Prøphet]

If you have poor genes and reproduce you are a piece of shit

 

[Gengar]

Yep. People have them for selfish reasons. They want a “mini me,” to leave behind a “legacy.”

 

[TechnoBoss]

Yep. People have them for selfish reasons. They want a “mini me,” to leave behind a “legacy.”

But considering the fact you're raising the kids and trying to give them the best life you can, how can that be considered selfish? People effectively stop living a life for themselves when they have kids. You're basically giving up your life to raise children.

 

[Gengar]

But considering the fact you're raising the kids and trying to give them the best life you can, how can that be considered selfish? People effectively stop living a life for themselves when they have kids. You're basically giving up your life to raise children.

Well let’s not forget that parents have expectations for their children, and when these aren’t met then their attitude changes. Not only that, but the driving force behind taking care of them is because they specifically take care of them since they are their own children. That is still selfish. If they were truly selfless, then they’d be adopting children and then giving them the same amount of love. But how many parents adopt when they can have their own children? Almost none. Only examples I can think of are Angelina Jolie and Brad Pitt.

 

[Andremln]

Yes but you should still have them

 

[ikramy]

Yes cause they had no choice in being born

 

[Doesitmatter?]

Unless you are a billionaire you should not reproduce

 

[sereneforever]

In my case my parents was selfish, i came out subhuman and now have to wage slave for 40 years

 

[Swarthy Knight]

Yes. That's why I usually don't feel bad for kiddy havers who complain about muh bills and responsibilities n shieet. They chose that life

 

[TechnoBoss]

Well let’s not forget that parents have expectations for their children, and when these aren’t met then their attitude changes. Not only that, but the driving force behind taking care of them is because they specifically take care of them since they are their own children. That is still selfish. If they were truly selfless, then they’d be adopting children and then giving them the same amount of love. But how many parents adopt when they can have their own children? Almost none. Only examples I can think of are Angelina Jolie and Brad Pitt.

Hmm, that's a good point. So maybe a majority of parents are just bad parents? I think if you don't treat your kid differently if he doesn't meet some expectations of yours, and you do your best to raise them and give them the best life, then maybe it isn't selfish? I find those celebrities who adopt kids kind of weird (especially if it's a white couple adopting some black kids or asian kids or w/e), but I guess if you have unlimited resources, then go for it.

I don't know how some people can adopt. Maybe if you aren't fertile, it makes sense, but for me, I would feel like a massive cuck if I'm raising someone else's kids. I don't have enough empathy for orphans/kids put up for adoption, I guess. The only way I could raise someone else's kids is if they were my best friend. Like, I go to war with my friend and he dies, and it's up to me to make sure his kids live a good life.

 

[Gengar]

Hmm, that's a good point. So maybe a majority of parents are just bad parents? I think if you don't treat your kid differently if he doesn't meet some expectations of yours, and you do your best to raise them and give them the best life, then maybe it isn't selfish? I find those celebrities who adopt kids kind of weird (especially if it's a white couple adopting some black kids or asian kids or w/e), but I guess if you have unlimited resources, then go for it.

I don't know how some people can adopt. Maybe if you aren't fertile, it makes sense, but for me, I would feel like a massive cuck if I'm raising someone else's kids. I don't have enough empathy for orphans/kids put up for adoption, I guess. The only way I could raise someone else's kids is if they were my best friend. Like, I go to war with my friend and he dies, and it's up to me to make sure his kids live a good life.

I mean, yeah… but if you want to give them the best life, wouldn’t it be better to not have them? If you have them, they’re exposed to all kinds of dangers. In fact, they may or may not get exploited, either through labor or through other means.

Hmm… I dunno, I do think it’s cucked to raise other people’s children if the parents are still alive. But it’s a noble thing to raise an orphan. By orphan I mean a child whose parents have died. I’d definitely adopt orphans, but then I realize children need both a mother figure and a father figure, and not just one or the other. So I’m better off on my own.

 

[TechnoBoss]

I mean, yeah… but if you want to give them the best life, wouldn’t it be better to not have them? If you have them, they’re exposed to all kinds of dangers. In fact, they may or may not get exploited, either through labor or through other means.

Hmm… I dunno, I do think it’s cucked to raise other people’s children if the parents are still alive. But it’s a noble thing to raise an orphan. By orphan I mean a child whose parents have died. I’d definitely adopt orphans, but then I realize children need both a mother figure and a father figure, and not just one or the other. So I’m better off on my own.

Well, yeah, not having them makes it impossible for them to ever get into any danger, but it also makes it impossible for them to feel anything ever, including pleasure. You're the only one who can make your kids. If you don't do it, none of them will ever have a chance. There are a lot of beautiful moments in life, like watching movies with your bhai - Speaking of when are you, me, and edo gonna have our movie night? No rush, bhai.

If I knew the parents of the orphan, I'd feel better about it. What if the parents died doing some kind of drugs or died while drunk driving? I guess it's not the fault of the orphan, but damn, there are so many kids in the world that need homes. People just pop them out so recklessly without a care in the world for the child's well-being.

 

[Gengar]

Well, yeah, not having them makes it impossible for them to ever get into any danger, but it also makes it impossible for them to feel anything ever, including pleasure. You're the only one who can make your kids. If you don't do it, none of them will ever have a chance. There are a lot of beautiful moments in life, like watching movies with your bhai - Speaking of when are you, me, and edo gonna have our movie night? No rush, bhai.

If I knew the parents of the orphan, I'd feel better about it. What if the parents died doing some kind of drugs or died while drunk driving? I guess it's not the fault of the orphan, but damn, there are so many kids in the world that need homes. People just pop them out so recklessly without a care in the world for the child's well-being.

How does next Sunday sound?

And yeah, I know, but I prefer not having them at all! Everyone’s different of course, and I know I’m not the only one.

To be honest, I’m kind of glad I got rejected by my oneitis. Because it’s clear she wanted kids, and I simply don’t.

And uh, yeah, each to their own. No judging here. But personally I’d adopt orphans, regardless of how their parents died. But a single man adopting kids is a bad idea.

 

[TechnoBoss]

How does next Sunday sound?

And yeah, I know, but I prefer not having them at all! Everyone’s different of course, and I know I’m not the only one.

To be honest, I’m kind of glad I got rejected by my oneitis. Because it’s clear she wanted kids, and I simply don’t.

And uh, yeah, each to their own. No judging here. But personally I’d adopt orphans, regardless of how their parents died. But a single man adopting kids is a bad idea.

Sounds great to me, mang, just make sure to remind me when you're ready in advance because my memory is shot

Well, maybe you can use that as a reason why the relationship wouldn't have worked. It'll be okay bhai you will find a woman who doesn't want kids either.

Admirable of you to be willing to adopt orphans. I just don't think it's selfish to raise children as long as you're a good parent (most aren't)