Is it worth it doing malar implants with Ramieri?

[Lonenely sigma]

As a general rule, I doubt Ramieri can botch you, but it comes with a price of possibly achieving changes smaller than desired.

I've seen one result with him in this area. The guy is @TheLordMadness and he said how he did 5 mm lateral increase. However, his cheekbones barely changed, and the change itself looks like much less than 5 mm.

If I recall well, Saiyan did around 4 mm and yet ended up with the biggest zygos in PSL history.

With that in mind, can you ask him to design an implant that would increase your bizygomatic width much more? Is it worth going with him in this area at all?

 

[Lonenely sigma]

Buuumpp

 

[Deleted member 24789]

you're asking a question no one has the answer to i'm afraid bro

btw I would be very interested in the answers...i need midface projection

 

[Lonenely sigma]

you're asking a question no one has the answer to i'm afraid bro

btw I would be very interested in the answers...i need midface projection

Seems like that to me as well.

It seems like there is no alternative in a way. Pagnoni is going to retire, Alfaro isn't as good as Ramieri, and I've seen only 3 malar results from Ramieri and all are almost invisible.

Thats it for European ones, I doubt I will got to America

 

[longjohnmong]

It seems like there is no alternative in a way. Pagnoni is going to retire, Alfaro isn't as good as Ramieri, and I've seen only 3 malar results from Ramieri and all are almost invisible.

Damn. All three surgeons that exist in the world can't do it. I guess you're shit out of luck.

 

[Lonenely sigma]

Damn. All three surgeons that exist in the world can't do it. I guess you're shit out of luck.

All three good in Europe, yes.

Who can do malar implants well then? Don't say Eppley

 

[VenatorLuparius]

Looksmaxxing is not a damn science set in stone with iron rules and principles.

It all depends of each individual, their failos, ratios and starting base.

4mm might be underwhelming for one guy and way too much for another.

All things considered : it's a big expensive bet. You do your homework, your researches, you get a proper design and hope that everything goes well.

I'm having infras,supras and jaw angles at the same time. I could end up botched or the results could be subpar. I have no way to know.

You don't want to completely trust the surgeon unless you want to end up like one of Eppley's monstruosity but you can't become a maniac obsessed over the intricacies that he has no control over.

Just get good design, good surgeon and bite the bullet.

 

[Lonenely sigma]

Looksmaxxing is not a damn science set in stone with iron rules and principles.

It all depends of each individual, their failos, ratios and starting base.

4mm might be underwhelming for one guy and way too much for another.

All things considered : it's a big expensive bet. You do your homework, your researches, you get a proper design and hope that everything goes well.

I'm having infras,supras and jaw angles at the same time. I could end up botched or the results could be subpar. I have no way to know.

You don't want to completely trust the surgeon unless you want to end up like one of Eppley's monstruosity but you can't become a maniac obsessed over the intricacies that he has no control over.

Just get good design, good surgeon and bite the bullet.

I agree that you can't predict designing part completely, but my problem is that I can't even find a surgeon, at least not on my continent

 

[longjohnmong]

All three good in Europe, yes.

How do you know that?

 

[Wallenberg]

And why you can't travel to the US?

 

[Lonenely sigma]

How do you know that?

Because doing malar implants is something that requires a surgeon to be very good at his job, and if he is good at his job he would be well known.

On this forum I've seen peple talk about these few Italian ones, with periodic mentioning of that one Belgian and one Russian dude. The rest are either in Turkey, India, South Korea or US.

My idea was to do PEEK and not silicone, something which is rare in US

 

[Lonenely sigma]

And why you can't travel to the US?

I can, its just that it would be much more expensive and much worse if it ends up looking unnatural, in combination with most of the well known American surgeons doing silicone and not PEEK

 

[longjohnmong]

Because doing malar implants is something that requires a surgeon to be very good at his job

Bro, they just pop them in. The goon who ruined my nose was doing malar implants 20 years ago. Those surgeons are popular within this community probably for some incidental reason.

 

[Lonenely sigma]

Bro, they just pop them in. The goon who ruined my nose was doing malar implants 20 years ago. Those surgeons are popular within this community probably for some incidental reason.

Agreed but still, wouldn't you feel at least a bit easier if you knew that the guy did the same thing right at least once on somebody else before you

 

[Deleted member 22623]

Go with someone who is not a pretentious superstar surgeon, but who is humble and is willing to refit the implants without you having to pay full price again

 

[longjohnmong]

Agreed but still, wouldn't you feel at least a bit easier if you knew that the guy did the same thing right at least once on somebody else before you

Yeah, definitely. I'm just saying there are probably more decent surgeons doing them. I like this result:



Pretty natural looking. It's just jaw implants + malar implants + genio + rhino. I don't know if it's PEEK. Probably not.

This is just one I randomly stumbled on today while looking for rhinoplasty surgeon:

Rimodellamento fronte e lifting del collo - Dott.ssa Rossella Berloco

È possibile realizzare presidi chirurgici su misura del paziente grazie all'utilizzo di un software specifico. Partendo da una TAC e...

www.rossellaberloco.it

She's doing custom forehead/brow/supraorbital implants, so probably also doing other implants as well.

 

[longjohnmong]

I'm having infras,supras and jaw angles at the same time.

With whom?

 

[Lonenely sigma]

Yeah, definitely. I'm just saying there are probably more decent surgeons doing them. I like this result:



Pretty natural looking. It's just jaw implants + malar implants + genio + rhino. I don't know if it's PEEK. Probably not.

This is just one I randomly stumbled on today while looking for rhinoplasty surgeon:

Rimodellamento fronte e lifting del collo - Dott.ssa Rossella Berloco

È possibile realizzare presidi chirurgici su misura del paziente grazie all'utilizzo di un software specifico. Partendo da una TAC e...

www.rossellaberloco.it

She's doing custom forehead implants.

Looks decent. I still don't know. The thing is, I won't do surgery for at least 5 more years, its just that I wish to have a complete plan always, something which probably isn't very possible. Who knows what surgeons will be popular by then

 

[danny phantom]

It’s better to go for a more conservative design than going for larger. Infra implants can feminize the face too drastically if overdone as far as I’ve seen, and it’s better to lose some money on subpar results than to get bogged and have to pay even more to fix it.

Undereye fillers are your best bet for now, esp since you don’t even want surgery as of rn. Honestly infra implants aren’t even a crazy looksmax for most people, at least price wise, so if you want OP you can PM me a pic.

 

[VenatorLuparius]

It’s better to go for a more conservative design than going for larger. Infra implants can feminize the face too drastically if overdone as far as I’ve seen, and it’s better to lose some money on subpar results than to get bogged and have to pay even more to fix it.

Undereye fillers are your best bet for now, esp since you don’t even want surgery as of rn. Honestly infra implants aren’t even a crazy looksmax for most people, at least price wise, so if you want OP you can PM me a pic.

Nah it's people that add volume in the apple (middle part) of the cheek that end up looking feminine. Men should only focus on the lateral zygo and the arch to have that sharp modelesque high cheekbones look.

 

[politically correct]

I had infraorbital malar implants with him, 3mm forward, 5mm lateral, they look really good, yeah some people might want a bit more, but cheek implants that are too big can also look horrendous

can always top it up with fat grafting later

 

[Lonenely sigma]

I had infraorbital malar implants with him, 3mm forward, 5mm lateral, they look really good, yeah some people might want a bit more, but cheek implants that are too big can also look horrendous

can always top it up with fat grafting later

Could you, perhaps, send it to DM if I swear I won't send it to anyone?

I just want to get a general idea about Ramieri, and considering that zygo area is my focus for surgerymaxxing I wish to see what Ramieri can achieve and is it worth going with him instead of Eppley or Dr Yaremchuk if you wish to widen your bizygomatic area.

I know you're private but it would mean a lot to me and I swear I won't share it.

 

[pcmaxing]

Seems like that to me as well.

It seems like there is no alternative in a way. Pagnoni is going to retire, Alfaro isn't as good as Ramieri, and I've seen only 3 malar results from Ramieri and all are almost invisible.

Thats it for European ones, I doubt I will got to America

Since when is pags retiring ? I spoke with him a few months ago and he was still booking surgerys

 

[Deleted member 19957]

Looksmaxxing is not a damn science set in stone with iron rules and principles.

It all depends of each individual, their failos, ratios and starting base.

4mm might be underwhelming for one guy and way too much for another.

All things considered : it's a big expensive bet. You do your homework, your researches, you get a proper design and hope that everything goes well.

I'm having infras,supras and jaw angles at the same time. I could end up botched or the results could be subpar. I have no way to know.

You don't want to completely trust the surgeon unless you want to end up like one of Eppley's monstruosity but you can't become a maniac obsessed over the intricacies that he has no control over.

Just get good design, good surgeon and bite the bullet.

It's a fucking joke that in this day and age we don't have any software that could tell us exactly what to improve and how much impovement we'd need.

 

[Lonenely sigma]

Since when is pags retiring ? I spoke with him a few months ago and he was still booking surgerys

I've seen a few people mention it. They say how he is going to end all already started procedures but he won't start any new ones.

If he retires its pretty bad tbf, pretty much all good PSL surgeons who do custom implants will dissapear overnight.

 

[Lonenely sigma]

It's a fucking joke that in this day and age we don't have any software that could tell us exactly what to improve and how much impovement we'd need.

Absolutelly agred. I've been searching a lot yet the closest I found any AI software/app get is that cringy Face App.

I mean they will 100% appear quite soon, as AI is getting better and better and looksmaxxing is a niche market that's growing rapidly

 

[pcmaxing]

Seems like that to me as well.

It seems like there is no alternative in a way. Pagnoni is going to retire, Alfaro isn't as good as Ramieri, and I've seen only 3 malar results from Ramieri and all are almost invisible.

Thats it for European ones, I doubt I will got to America

Since when is pags retiring ? I spoke with him a few months ago and he was still booking surgerys

I've seen a few people mention it. They say how he is going to end all already started procedures but he won't start any new ones.

If he retires its pretty bad tbf, pretty much all good PSL surgeons who do custom implants will dissapear overnight.

i just spoke to him on IG and it’s a false rumor. He isn’t retiring.

 

[Lonenely sigma]

Since when is pags retiring ? I spoke with him a few months ago and he was still booking surgerys

i just spoke to him on IG and it’s a false rumor. He isn’t retiring.

Holy fuck thats a huge lifefuel, thanks for informing me.

Someone probably just made it up to reduce his prices lmao, what a low thing to do

 

[pcmaxing]

Holy fuck thats a huge lifefuel, thanks for informing me.

Someone probably just made it up to reduce his prices lmao, what a low thing to do

Sure is almost gave me a heart attack lol.. I had video conference with him few months ago about having my whole eye area done

 

[politically correct]

Could you, perhaps, send it to DM if I swear I won't send it to anyone?

I just want to get a general idea about Ramieri, and considering that zygo area is my focus for surgerymaxxing I wish to see what Ramieri can achieve and is it worth going with him instead of Eppley or Dr Yaremchuk if you wish to widen your bizygomatic area.

I know you're private but it would mean a lot to me and I swear I won't share it.

no i dont share pics ever

 

[Deleted member 21048]

Holy fuck thats a huge lifefuel, thanks for informing me.

Someone probably just made it up to reduce his prices lmao, what a low thing to do

His prices are already being jacked up because of every Incel that comes from here

 

[Lonenely sigma]

His prices are already being jacked up because of every Incel that comes from here

its like that with every PSL surgeon tbf, he is even on a more reasonable side than some surgeons I've seen

 

[jon_chase89]

Since when is pags retiring ? I spoke with him a few months ago and he was still booking surgerys

i just spoke to him on IG and it’s a false rumor. He isn’t retiring.

I thought Pagnoni was relatively young?

 

[Lonenely sigma]

I thought Pagnoni was relatively young?

He is in his 40s, he is most likely not retiring

 

[politically correct]

speaking as a patient who has done both bimax and infraorbital malar implants with Dr Ramieri I would say:
- If your zygomas/cheeks etc are the weakness, then he's a great option
- If you have super weak undereyes and thats the main weakness, then you will likely need a more assertive saddled design for the orbital rims, and Dr Ramieri doesnt offer this although he will inject some extra fat there for you

 

[Lonenely sigma]

speaking as a patient who has done both bimax and infraorbital malar implants with Dr Ramieri I would say:
- If your zygomas/cheeks etc are the weakness, then he's a great option
- If you have super weak undereyes and thats the main weakness, then you will likely need a more assertive saddled design for the orbital rims, and Dr Ramieri doesnt offer this although he will inject some extra fat there for you

If my primary objective is to make my cheekbones wider, would you still consider him as a good option?

 

[politically correct]

If my primary objective is to make my cheekbones wider, would you still consider him as a good option?

yes, just get the design right

 

[goatedjordan23]

speaking as a patient who has done both bimax and infraorbital malar implants with Dr Ramieri I would say:
- If your zygomas/cheeks etc are the weakness, then he's a great option
- If you have super weak undereyes and thats the main weakness, then you will likely need a more assertive saddled design for the orbital rims, and Dr Ramieri doesnt offer this although he will inject some extra fat there for you

so ramieri offers the same thing that taban does "infraorbitral rim implants" or is that something different?