Is JD Vance the ideal Bimax Candidate?

[Snicket]

JD Vance seems like an ideal candidate for jaw surgery. He has an excellent eye area, decent upper maxilla but retruded jaws.
Even with weight loss, you can see that the skin around his recessed jaws is so loose that it makes his face look bloated:

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An advancement of both jaws would improve the side profile and crucially, get rid of significant mid-facial bloat, even at a lower body fat percentages. Thoughts?

 

[Vincent Freeman]

for lobotomy maybe

 

[lurking truecel]

He is not recessed, just fat, a genio at best

 

[Snowskinned]

He is too iconic at this point, but yea, you’re right

 

[Snicket]

He is not recessed, just fat, a genio at best

Interesting, I was thinking about what makes the guy unattractive when he undeniably has some good features.

His jaws both looked recessed here :

LF1 advancment would definitely reduce nasolabial folds and BSSO would reduce facial flab under the jaw.

 

[lurking truecel]

Interesting, I was thinking about what makes the guy unattractive when he undeniably has some good features.

His jaws both looked recessed here :

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LF1 advancment would definitely reduce nasolabial folds and BSSO would reduce facial flab under the jaw.

Its age, and its only a high cut lf 1 that reduces nasolabial folds. Most lf 1 cuts is below the nasolabial region and no the skin doesnt get stretched if you dont dog maxx and go 5 mm+ advancements linearly. And its still mostly fat that makes his nasolabial folds

 

[Snicket]

Its age, and its only a high cut lf 1 that reduces nasolabial folds. Most lf 1 cuts is below the nasolabial region and no the skin doesnt get stretched if you dont dog maxx and go 5 mm+ advancements linearly. And its still mostly fat that makes his nasolabial folds

I don't know about that.
He's lost a huge amount of weight and and has hanging flabs of facial fat. It's very strange. It's not normal physiognomy even for someone who is slightly overweight.

Weight loss has exposed retrusion of the jaws imo. There's just not enough skeletal support to support the fat so it hangs there.

Jaw surgery (advancement) definitely does stretch the skin somewhat:

A slightly higher cut LF1(just above the nostrils) could fully address the nasolabial folds.
Granted he could stand to lose more weight and soft tissue also plays a big role but I think more skeletal support would alleviate the problem.

 

[lurking truecel]

I don't know about that.
He's lost a huge amount of weight and and has hanging flabs of facial fat. It's very strange. It's not normal physiognomy even for someone who is slightly overweight.

Weight loss has exposed retrusion of the jaws imo. There's just not enough skeletal support to support the fat so it hangs there.

Jaw surgery (advancement) definitely does stretch the skin somewhat:
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A slightly higher cut LF1(just above the nostrils) could fully address the nasolabial folds.
Granted he could stand to lose more weight and soft tissue also plays a big role but I think more skeletal support would alleviate the problem.

Thats a chimp maxxed leforte 1, his phil got chopped. And his nasollabial folds look the same. It mostly depends on the canine fossa deepness andor the width of the maxilla at that point and also face fat storages and skin. Bimax doesnt fix it most of the time, paranasal implants is better for it or some kind of filler or sum

 

[Snicket]

Thats a chimp maxxed leforte 1, his phil got chopped. And his nasollabial folds look the same. It mostly depends on the canine fossa deepness andor the width of the maxilla at that point and also face fat storages and skin. Bimax doesnt fix it most of the time, paranasal implants is better for it or some kind of filler or sum

Good points.

I agree, it's a slight over-advancement but clearly an improvement over before. Skin around the mandible looks tighter for sure. Can't really tell about the nasolabial folds from the side profile.

A higher cut LF1 like you said might help reduce them.

You're right. nasolabial folds are usually a combination of factors, not just one thing so I think bimax would help but not fully solve the problem.

 

[Snicket]

for lobotomy maybe

I enjoyed the Vance Zelensky debacle. It was damn good television.

 

[thecel]

JD Vance is brachy and bloated

 

[thecel]

Trump has long philtrum

 

[charliewillascend]

@Iooksmax he seems somewhat brachy to me,
short midface and wider neuro.
Thoughts?

JD Vance is brachy and bloated

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[charliewillascend]

JD Vance seems like an ideal candidate for jaw surgery. He has an excellent eye area, decent upper maxilla but retruded jaws.
Even with weight loss, you can see that the skin around his recessed jaws is so loose that it makes his face look bloated:

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An advancement of both jaws would improve the side profile and crucially, get rid of significant mid-facial bloat, even at a lower body fat percentages.

He doesn’t need bimax what so ever,
From what I Can tell with his facial hair he has perfect alignment of his jaws.

You yourself said his maxilla is good and if his jaw is as projected as his maxilla how does this remotely make him a good bimax candidate?
Do you know what bimax is?

 

[Snicket]

From what I Can tell with his facial hair he has perfect alignment of his jaws.

Don't see what the facial hair has to do with anything.

You yourself said his maxilla is good and if his jaw is as projected as his maxilla how does this remotely make him a good bimax candidate?
Do you know what bimax is?

I said his upper maxilla was good and that his jaws were poorly projected. You know how to read, right?

 

[looksmaxxed]

he's moderately forward grown, he just holds a lot of facial fat

agreed bout genio, he would benefit from that. his beard is weak chin camouflage

 

[charliewillascend]

Don't see what the facial hair has to do with anything.

I said his upper maxilla was good and that his jaws were poorly projected. You know how to read, right?

His facial hair hides his lower jaw, makes it harder to see if it’s recessed.

He is by no means recessed.

 

[Snicket]

he's moderately forward grown, he just holds a lot of facial fat

Do you think his jaws are poorly projected? His mandible looks pretty weak to me.

 

[Snicket]

His facial hair hides his lower jaw, makes it harder to see if it’s recessed.

He is by no means recessed.

I shouldn't have said recessed. I was being hyperbolic. I meant poorly projected.

 

[charliewillascend]

Do you think his jaws are poorly projected? His mandible looks pretty weak to me.

His mandible is very projected.
None of his jaws necessarily are poorly projected.

Rep my posts bro

 

[Toad]

 

[Snicket]

Look here and tell me he has a good mandible I get he's overweight but still:

 

[Snicket]

His mandible is very projected.
None of his jaws necessarily are poorly projected.

Rep my posts bro

I posted check below.

 

[Lookologist003]

LF1 advancment would definitely reduce nasolabial folds

Not with his age, man. This guy is like late forties. Sun is setting.

Just realistically forties is too late in the day to be getting surgeries. If he were a young eighteen year old in 1980 or some shit, he should get jaw surgery. But if it were 1980, he would be told to just be confident, so...

 

[anthony111553]

Not with his age, man. This guy is like late forties. Sun is setting.

Just realistically forties is too late in the day to be getting surgeries. If he were a young eighteen year old in 1980 or some shit, he should get jaw surgery. But if it were 1980, he would be told to just be confident, so...

suregeries are pointless for him at this point considering he's married to a pajeet he don't have much comp

 

[Snicket]

Not with his age, man. This guy is like late forties. Sun is setting.

Just realistically forties is too late in the day to be getting surgeries. If he were a young eighteen year old in 1980 or some shit, he should get jaw surgery. But if it were 1980, he would be told to just be confident, so...

He could be Trump’s successor. He’s not just any 40 year old. He could easily be the next president of the US

 

[Lookologist003]

He could be Trump’s successor. He’s not just any 40 year old. He could easily be the next president of the US

Trump's wife hated him and was disgusted to be near him. She refused to hold his hand. And that was during his first presidency a decade ago. So much for being president.

 

[Snicket]

Trump's wife hated him and was disgusted to be near him. She refused to hold his hand. And that was during his first presidency a decade ago. So much for being president.

True but Reagan’s good looks bought him good will even when the guy was demented during his second term

 

[thecel]

Vance doesn’t need bimax. He needs a new skull.

 

[Snicket]

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Vance doesn’t need bimax. He needs a new skull.

I saw your thread. He still looks terrible.
The issue is massive facial fat just hanging off his face.

 

[Veganist]

It's weird you think that.

An ideal candidate would be someone who can massively alter his appearance through the procedure, so someone with class 2 or 3 bite.

If you contacted 10 orthognathic surgeons with his photos, and asked them if they would perform bimax on you, I'm sure majority would say no.

 

[Snicket]

It's weird you think that.

An ideal candidate would be someone who can massively alter his appearance through the procedure, so someone with class 2 or 3 bite.

If you contacted 10 orthognathic surgeons with his photos, and asked them if they would perform bimax on you, I'm sure majority would say no.

Was half joking, half serious when I posted this.

I don’t think any maxfac would recommend surgery but I do wonder if a bimaxillary advancement would help somewhat.

 

[zemult]

Look here and tell me he has a good mandible I get he's overweight but still:

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He's tilting his head down, it's not a true side profile. Anyone's side looks fucked if you use a picture from this angle.

 

[JeanneDArcAlter]

Trump is more recessed

 

[iblamemygenes]

Thats a chimp maxxed leforte 1, his phil got chopped. And his nasollabial folds look the same. It mostly depends on the canine fossa deepness andor the width of the maxilla at that point and also face fat storages and skin. Bimax doesnt fix it most of the time, paranasal implants is better for it or some kind of filler or sum

that’s a good bimax what, his Phil def looks way better now