Is looksmaxxing worth it if you have little to no appeal to women?

[Pakicel]

I receive very little or no interest from women IRL. I haven't tried online dating apps because they are pointless unless you look like a model. This could mean that my PSL is quite low to begin with even though I don't any major failos (for example being fat, bald, very short, framecel, very recessed) and getting surgeries etc. would be pointless as it wouldn't really change much. But I do have men and some women saying I am good looking (not necessarily to my face but also behind my back). My group friends have told me I should model and we were discussing relationships they said I was in the same range of attractiveness as this other guy who'd likely be estimated at around 5-5.5 psl by members of this site (he is a part-time model). I suspected that they are just joking/ virtue signalling but they are pretty brutally honest with the other people in my group. I mean they did not hold back from telling me that I was better looking than this PSL 4 guy in or implying that this PSL 3ish guy is ugly in front of them. There is another guy I know who would be rated very low on this site maybe 3 psl at the most but he claims to have women flirt with him all the time. If we go by blackpill principles, it is likely I am a truecel i.e. physically deformed in a way that is completely unfixable. But I don't get treated like shit like a subhuman would i.e I never get called ugly or discriminated against socially because of my looks. If anything, I feel that I get treated better than most because of my appearance. I should mention that I am a Pakistani guy living in Pakistan but I don't have the typical south asian phenotype. I don't look white but I am fair skinned to the point that many people comment that I look pale or pink or reddish irl (a few people have called me a "vampire"). Now there's a possibility that I am overrating myself but I've analysed my face from different angles checking for things like recession, ipd, fwhr, mid face ratio etc. I've also spent quite a bit of time studying aesthetics to understand what makes certain faces attractive so I guess would be able to tell if I was a truecel but I don't see anything that would make me significantly below average. I know I am most certainly not good looking but is there a possibility that I am average looking with a good base and that looksmaxxing would be worth the effort?

 

[Lev Peshkov]

What.


That's kinda the whole point of looksmaxxing my friend

 

[audimax]

Bro maybe you should try tinder and badoo. I thought I was below average because of lack of attention from girls IRL (except fat or ugly girls). I meet average girls on tinder from time to time.

 

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[Deleted member 1588]

Not a single word

 

[Uglylooser133]

If you get little attention then yeah you some have room . Id not then keep your expectations low unless you’re planning for surgery and implants

 

[Pakicel]

Do you really think online dating would be worth my time? I mean you pretty much have to be salludon-tier in terms of looks (I am non-white remember) to have enough success to justify the investment of time and energy. But I think the key to looksmaxxing (going from average to good looking), is developing a very good understanding of what makes certain faces attractive, understanding what's stopping you from reaching that point and fixing those things. But there are truecels for whom there is absolutely no hope and I think they should give up on women entirely. It's possible that I am.

 

[stuckneworleans]

Holy shit so many words I didn't read

 

[TITUS]

tl;dr
Looksmaxing is life, there is no reason to be alive if you don't looksmax.

 

[Pakicel]

But there are people who are legit truecels because of things that are pretty much unfixable e.g.low ipd, phenotype, very long midface etc. Do you think its worth it for them to even waste their time with hardcore looksmaxxing? You generally need to have a reasonably good base to improve your appearance to a point where it makes a real difference in your life.