Is permanent masseter atrophy possible through botox? specifically masseters that've only grown through high intensity training?

[ad115]

So pretty much im wondering if botox can reverse some of my masseter muscle gains I've got through using failm gum. It's been about 15 months, a little over a year, since I trained them and my masseters are still bulky. Im thinking of getting botox but I dont see any real point if I to always get touch ups and or multiple treatments for a long ass time. Never struggled with bruxism or grinding, or any of that crap. so maybe I might get some actual atrophy that's permanent from botox. any advice would be appreciated.

 

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Just eat soft foods and eventually they'll get soft blend your foods like a baby lol

 

[cc_7373]

So pretty much im wondering if botox can reverse some of my masseter muscle gains I've got through using failm gum. It's been about 15 months, a little over a year, since I trained them and my masseters are still bulky. Im thinking of getting botox but I dont see any real point if I to always get touch ups and or multiple treatments for a long ass time. Never struggled with bruxism or grinding, or any of that crap. so maybe I might get some actual atrophy that's permanent from botox. any advice would be appreciated.

Overbite?

 

[Deleted member 71093]

Overbite?

What does an over bite have to do with it I have one as well. I’m also high bodyfat percentage and my jaw looks bulky some times but really good at other times

 

[cc_7373]

What does an over bite have to do with it I have one as well. I’m also high bodyfat percentage and my jaw looks bulky some times but really good at other times

Im just guessing but the reason they look bad is because you chewed with an overbite, i was planning on chewing alot too for upswing and such but seems risky with overbite

 

[Deleted member 71093]

Im just guessing but the reason they look bad is because you chewed with an overbite, i was planning on chewing alot too for upswing and such but seems risky with overbite

Im fixing my overbite rn with braces and elastics

 

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Im fixing my overbite rn with braces and elastics

Over for your upswing after braces, elastics fuck you up too

 

[Deleted member 71093]

Over for your upswing after braces, elastics fuck you up too

Upswing ?

 

[Deleted member 71093]

Over for your upswing after braces, elastics fuck you up too

Tbh idrc it’s .org propaganda

 

[cc_7373]

Upswing ?

Braces could make it impossible to achieve upswing/fix downgrowth, even with surgery, doesn't happen everytime but idk, there actors too who suffered from this

 

[ad115]

Overbite?

yea but I got orthodontic treatment a couple years ago. I just stick with invisalign

 

[ad115]

Just eat soft foods and eventually they'll get soft blend your foods like a baby lol

This works but only temporary. I've done this for like a week the first time last summer and my face kinda went back to normal pre hypertrophy ( before I jaw trained) but right when I start chewing real food it just bulks up again. SoI got some botox done instead. Even then it's wearing off in just two weeks.

 

[ad115]

Update: just did masseter botox (50 units total). The botox really lasted 2 weeks. Had great result until like the 15th day my masseters started to bulk up again. As of right now it's week 3 since I got injected botox. Just going to stick with a mouthguard and chewing more softly.