Is pinning TRT for life bad??

[Iblame2023]

It sound annoying but then you realize a shower takes 5 times longer

Deeply considering being on test for life

 

[dragomog]

i still wanna try avoid it

what if test becomes rare
or u go broke?

and what if ur in ur 30's and stop giving a shit abt looksmaxxing and lifting?

 

[BR32]

It is if its before your HPA maturates

 

[BR32]

i still wanna try avoid it

what if test becomes rare
or u go broke?

and what if ur in ur 30's and stop giving a shit abt looksmaxxing and lifting?

test is cheap and will never become rare

 

[dragomog]

test is cheap and will never become rare

you will need bloodwork consistently after alot of using

and last thing i said also applies
u WILL stop giving a fuck abt this stuff once ur older but u will still need to inject

 

[fr0stja]

It is if its before your HPA maturates

when does HPA usually maturate like at what age or tanner stage

 

[Marlow]

It sound annoying but then you realize a shower takes 5 times longer

Deeply considering being on test for life

Young guys get deeply scared about being on medication for life. But it's not so bad. In order to maintain a good quality of life, there are medications that you're gonna need to use for life. For example, if you start balding, you are gonna need to take dutasteride for life if you wanna keep your hair.

 

[Iblame2023]

you will need bloodwork consistently after alot of using

and last thing i said also applies
u WILL stop giving a fuck abt this stuff once ur older but u will still need to inject

One you don't give a fuck you keep your test in high natty ranges 800-1100ng/dl

 

[BR32]

you will need bloodwork consistently after alot of using

This is true

and last thing i said also applies
u WILL stop giving a fuck abt this stuff once ur older but u will still need to inject

Nah I don't think I will, peak mogging is gonna be like 35 when I look 25 and weigh 190 lean after all my surgeries

 

[6footislaw]

Young guys get deeply scared about being on medication for life. But it's not so bad. In order to maintain a good quality of life, there are medications that you're gonna need to use for life. For example, if you start balding, you are gonna need to take dutasteride for life if you wanna keep your hair.

yea but pinnign sucks

 

[BR32]

when does HPA usually maturate like at what age or tanner stage

21-22

 

[decret]

Think of how much money ur gona have to spend

 

[Realism]

you will need bloodwork consistently after alot of using

and last thing i said also applies
u WILL stop giving a fuck abt this stuff once ur older but u will still need to inject

When you're older is literally when you'll reap the most benefits, so thats just false.

 

[Iblame2023]

yea but pinnign sucks

on enanthate its once weekly

cant be that bad

 

[dragomog]

One you don't give a fuck you keep your test in high natty ranges 800-1100ng/dl

still just a pain in the ass to be dependent on it and need bloodwork regularly

 

[pio]

It is if its before your HPA maturates

does that mean that any roid cycle in puberty should have pct?

 

[Marlow]

yea but pinnign sucks

You could use testosterone gel. Actually, I recommend that over pinning

 

[Iblame2023]

Think of how much money ur gona have to spend

unless you geniuenly dont make money this shouldn't be a worry tbh

 

[fr0stja]

21-22

if Im almost 16 and I hop on then will I need trt for life because my axis isnt fully developed

 

[6footislaw]

You could use testosterone gel. Actually, I recommend that over pinning

on enanthate its once weekly

cant be that bad

tf is test gel? this shit acc works?

 

[BR32]

does that mean that any roid cycle in puberty should have pct?

it means that any roid cycle durign puberty will likley permenantly impact your ability to produce endogenous test for life regardless of pct qulaity

not to mention that 99% of people have no idea how ot pct

 

[dragomog]

This is true

Nah I don't think I will, peak mogging is gonna be like 35 when I look 25 and weigh 190 lean after all my surgeries

maybe for u but i feel like once im in my mid 20's i wont give a fuck abt this much

 

[BR32]

if Im almost 16 and I hop on then will I need trt for life because my axis isnt fully developed

maybe

 

[dragomog]

it means that any roid cycle durign puberty will likley permenantly impact your ability to produce endogenous test for life regardless of pct qulaity

fr? im on 500 test at 15 and planning more cycles

 

[6footislaw]

still just a pain in the ass to be dependent on it and need bloodwork regularly

yo u on 500 mgs right? how longs ur cycle and do u plan hopping off?

 

[Iblame2023]

maybe for u but i feel like once im in my mid 20's i wont give a fuck abt this much

but just emagine having the test of a 20 year old at 60

 

[BR32]

fr? im on 500 test at 15 and planning more cycles

poor choice

you're raping your development

if you're gonna do it lower the doses a lot

 

[Iblame2023]

fr? im on 500 test at 15 and planning more cycles

mirin

 

[pio]

it means that any roid cycle durign puberty will likley permenantly impact your ability to produce endogenous test for life regardless of pct qulaity

not to mention that 99% of people have no idea how ot pct

So does hoppong on at 16 make sense or no

 

[fr0stja]

maybe

what conditions would dictate permanent TRT if I plan to take test until around 18 from 16

fyi my natural levels are 550 ng/dl currently so Im really considering hopping on maybe even just to be on the higher end of natty levels

 

[dragomog]

yo u on 500 mgs right? how longs ur cycle and do u plan hopping off?

16 weeks
yeah i dont wanna do trt for life bruh
imma do pct between cycles for better chances of recovery as cruising keeps u shutdown longer

 

[Iblame2023]

poor choice

you're raping your development

if you're gonna do it lower the doses a lot

only if his estrogen control is ass

 

[6footislaw]

it means that any roid cycle durign puberty will likley permenantly impact your ability to produce endogenous test for life regardless of pct qulaity

not to mention that 99% of people have no idea how ot pct

if u surpress for years like u dont hop off then

You have suppressed your GNRH for a long time and youll need kisspeptin and any other GNRH analogues, as well as a SERM. But before you hop off, you can try use some HMG for 2 weeks before hopping off, to kickstart LH/FSH count. Doing it for longer will simply suppress your natural LH/FSH.

 

[6footislaw]

16 weeks
yeah i dont wanna do trt for life bruh
imma do pct between cycles for better chances of recovery as cruising keeps u shutdown longer

same brah fuck trt

im tryna hop on 250 mgs and m looking into this shit

so after 16 weeks ur gon pct and get off completely?

 

[dragomog]

poor choice

you're raping your development

if you're gonna do it lower the doses a lot

ik im raping the development only reason i hopped on is cuz im tall already

lower test doses? i mean 500 is typical?
im planning to do tren at 16 when i can get bloods idk if thats very risky for me

 

[dragomog]

same brah fuck trt

im tryna hop on 250 mgs and m looking into this shit

so after 16 weeks ur gon pct and get off completely?

pct then blast after some months

 

[Iblame2023]

pct then blast after some months

yeah im def gonna start a cycle soon just too lazy for pct

Also are you only on test rn?

 

[6footislaw]

pct then blast after some months

alr, m confused ab the keeping gains part.

what will u do ab retaining the gains?

 

[dragomog]

alr, m confused ab the keeping gains part.

what will u do ab retaining the gains?

you keep most of the actual muscle with pct the water drops down

 

[dragomog]

yeah im def gonna start a cycle soon just too lazy for pct

Also are you only on test rn?

test only for first cycle
wdym ur too lazy for pct tho its just taking a pill everyday after cycle

 

[jaycc]

i still wanna try avoid it

what if test becomes rare
or u go broke?

and what if ur in ur 30's and stop giving a shit abt looksmaxxing and lifting?

In your 30s you will go on test from the doctor if you have a brain

 

[6footislaw]

you keep most of the actual muscle with pct the water drops down

wait acc? i thought u needed trt to keep

whats ur pct looking like?

 

[dragomog]

In your 30s you will go on test from the doctor if you have a brain

true its beneficial ofc but i feel like theres a high chance of just becoming the typical eastern european uncle for me and not give a fuck abt working out or looksmaxxing

 

[dragomog]

wait acc? i thought u needed trt to keep

whats ur pct looking like?

will do enclo and nolva

 

[6footislaw]

will do enclo and nolva

thanks for the help ly bhai

 

[dragomog]

thanks for the help ly bhai

though id say dont do 250 its the same shutdown for recovery it barely matters ur still not making any test
500 alot better results

 

[Iblame2023]

test only for first cycle
wdym ur too lazy for pct tho its just taking a pill everyday after cycle

I mean like if im already on test i might as well take it forever

 

[dragomog]

I mean like if im already on test i might as well take it forever

if you dont mind it ofc its mostly only beneficial
again for me its just i probably wont care about this stuff a couple decades later

 

[6footislaw]

though id say dont do 250 its the same shutdown for recovery it barely matters ur still not making any test
500 alot better results

m not worried ab shutdown m worried ab hairloss, im 15 and my dad started balding at 30 he got like a norwood 2.5

m using ru and oral minox on cycle i think i should be fine

if i see no hairloss ill up the dose to 500

 

[dragomog]

m not worried ab shutdown m worried ab hairloss, im 15 and my dad started balding at 30 he got like a norwood 2.5

m using ru and oral minox on cycle i think i should be fine

if i see no hairloss ill up the dose to 500

yeah idk about balding
i dont think about this stuff really im just rawdogging 500 with no anciliary
and hoping i dont end up bald and needing trt