Is Richard Ramirez or Jordan Barrett more masculine tbh

barett has foid tier midface so ramirez
 
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Someone said compact midface ogre trait
cope horseface is masc but subhuman, also very strong maxilla projection is a fem trait
 
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Someone said compact midface ogre trait
Short midface is feminine even if it looks ideal. Long midface and narrow IPD are masculine/ogre but they don't look good
 
 
richard ramirez has a more masculine look and is also taller
 

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