Is "subjectivity" actually just bullshit/cope?

[disillusioned]

Is anything in this world actually subjective? I mean I guess it is to a certain limited extent, but by how much? I can't help but feel that normies just invented the notion of subjectivity as a form of cope because it's harder to cope in a world where there exist objective metrics for most things.

 

[Tony]

 

[Deleted member 6902]

For everything of importance no, but for meaningless shit yes

 

[fukmylyf]

 

[balding17yomanletcel]

=op

 

[fukmylyf]

no bro

 

[Subhuman trash]

Is anything in this world actually subjective? I mean I guess it is to a certain limited extent, but by how much? I can't help but feel that normies just invented the notion of subjectivity as a form of cope because it's harder to cope in a world where there exist objective metrics for most things.

I guess looks are subjective within 1 point or so not more so yea subjective is a cope

 

[Deleted member 4209]

i think music/movies etc are. looks aren't subjective.

 

[Krezo]

Subjects me

 

[disillusioned]

i think music/movies etc are.

Even then only to a point. Past a certain point things become largely objective. Like how many people liked the new star wars movies? A small number of people probably, but not that many.

 

[Deleted member 206]

only to a point. Past a certain point things become largely objective.

 

[Deleted member 4612]

Certain tastes in music, movies, tv, and video games are.

In terms of attractiveness? absolutely not

 

[Deleted member 3702]

bingo

 

[Deleted member 5683]

I'd argue the opposite is true. Very few things are objective.

 

[DrTony]

It is objective but like most biological phenomena there is variability (sometimes small sometimes big).

 

[Danish_Retard]

Attractiveness is subjective of what people prefer. Like a 4 PSL dude is still 4 PSL but some for some people he will have higher SMV than other 4 PSL dudes because they like something unique about him.

 

[SMVbender]

objectivity is cope because people push their ideals in the name of science
subjectivity is cope because people implement their ideals in the name of freedom

 

[Deleted member 5683]

Certain tastes in music, movies, tv, and video games are.

In terms of attractiveness? absolutely not

Subjectivity in movies is very similar to subjectivity in looks/attractiveness, I made this argument in one of my threads

 

[PubertyMaxxer]

Attractiveness is subjective of what people prefer. Like a 4 PSL dude is still 4 PSL but some for some people he will have higher SMV than other 4 PSL dudes because they like something unique about him.

 

[Deleted member 4612]

Subjectivity in movies is very similar to subjectivity in looks/attractiveness, I made this argument in one of my threads

link to thread plz?

 

[Uglybrazilian]

I would say the opposite, most things are subjective althought there is some objective things

 

[Dude420]

From my subjective point of view, this thread is shit.

 

[Deleted member 245]

 

[Deleted member 5683]

link to thread plz?

I think it just got deleted lol

 

[Deleted member 4612]

I think it just got deleted lol

cope

 

[Deleted member 4612]

morality is subjective

 

[john2]

morality is subjective

Leftist cope tbh.

Is anything in this world actually subjective? I mean I guess it is to a certain limited extent, but by how much? I can't help but feel that normies just invented the notion of subjectivity as a form of cope because it's harder to cope in a world where there exist objective metrics for most things.

For important stuff like science and math or even attraction or morality, no cause it is all objective.

But for stuff like favorite choice of food or clothing, yes it is subjective.

 

[Deleted member 4612]

Leftist cope tbh.

well outside of religion anyway. if you follow religion then you have to look at what the God of that religion says

or is there such a thing as objective morality without religion?

 

[john2]

or is there such a thing as objective morality without religion?

Nah.

well outside of religion anyway. if you follow religion then you have to look at what the God of that religion says

Pretty sure every major religion has come to the conclusion (relying on their conscience) that stuff like murder is wrong.

 

[Deleted member 4612]

Nah.

Pretty sure every major religion has come to the conclusion (relying on their conscience) that stuff like murder is wrong.

true, but murder is kinda an easy thing to call wrong.

there's a lot of other moral debates that are more controversial with arguments on both sides

 

[john2]

true, but murder is kinda an easy thing to call wrong.

there's a lot of other moral debates that are more controversial with arguments on both sides

Murder is an easy thing to call wrong even according to normies, due to it's intensity and the extent of shock, both the victim and witness receive.

The seriousness and the state of permanency of murder is grave and thus it is easy to deem it vile. Basically it's just feelings and perception.

But seemingly little stuff like idolatry, self worship or stuff like masturbation/adultery won't be deemed instantly wrong or grave... because it doesn't shock a person that much IRL. The consequences of adultery in society are definitely bad, but the fact that people obtain pleasure from it will always prevent them from truly realizing the unnatural and immoral aspect of adultery. This is why most atheists will question it.

As a Christian, I stand firmly where I am & truly believe that-
the 10 commandments are the absolute moral law for all of humanity whether they like it or not.

 

[disillusioned]

Murder is an easy thing to call wrong even according to normies, due to it's intensity and the extent of shock, both the victim and witness receive.

Jfl in ancient times authorities had people kill each other for the laughs while the masses cheered it on.

 

[john2]

Jfl in ancient times authorities had people kill each other for the laughs while the masses cheered it on.

If you're talking about Greeks or Romans, then I agree. But they are mindless pagans.
You'd obviously not want to live in that time especially if you were the victim.