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Do people actually end up getting surgery here? Or do most of them say they will and never do it?
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How would you say you make a proper plan for surgeryAn excuse maybe. Unless you got a plan that is firmly on the ground you're not going anywhere. Overweight people really think they can starve max when they got no discipline in the first place.
I would love to risk it. I’ve been conditioning myself to surgery, for example I’m getting the NUSS procedure and one other procedure I can do at 15, I’m trying to make surgery seem like a normal thing to me.No it's a dream for most, no one wants to risk it
Go to a consultation with a real surgeon is the first stepHow would you say you make a proper plan for surgery
Surgeries that aren't LeFort III and a surgeon willing to do them. Financial backing, etc. In theory anything is possible but most are pussies or incapable. I think you'd at least have some external input before making any decisions. Sometimes you get stuck on what you think is a failo but most don't even notice. You need a sound mind.How would you say you make a proper plan for surgery
In italyI would love to risk it. I’ve been conditioning myself to surgery, for example I’m getting the NUSS procedure and one other procedure I can do at 15, I’m trying to make surgery seem like a normal thing to me.
Also where is the safest place to get Trimax with the PEEK implants?
What’s the damage? (Price)In italy
Agreed. Can’t you get money loans or stuff with surgery? Surgery doesn’t cost too much unless you get it in the USMost of the forum chads don’t need it and the forum subhumans don’t get it for various reasons including being broke or realising it won’t make enough of a difference.
I will get trimax and infra implants but realistically I am too old for it to matter much, it’s glorified self-harm at this point.
I think it’s difficult for anyone to commit to surgery until they’ve lost hope in every other avenue, a lot of these kids think they are going to be rich one day or that soft maxxing will get them where they want to be.
What’s the damage? (Price)
Agreed. Can’t you get money loans or stuff with surgery? Surgery doesn’t cost too much unless you get it in the US
Really? Trimax and implants is gonna cost that much? There’s gotta be a way to make it cheaperI would suggest to budget €50.000 at today’s prices. The actual surgery will be around €30.000 but you must also consider Ortho treatment and have money left over in case there is a revision or complication.
Depends on your own income and credit score for a loan. Your average incel won’t have much of either. I have not heard of the surgeons themselves offering finance options.
USA guys can geomax surgery but even Italy is hard to afford for europoors.
Really? Trimax and implants is gonna cost that much? There’s gotta be a way to make it cheaper
Does quality differ?Go to turkey or India if you want cheaper I guess.
Around 30kWhat’s the damage? (Price)
I’m 15, how do I get that kinda moneyAround 30k
You work, should be easy if you are americanI’m 15, how do I get that kinda money
How many years and where to work?You work, should be easy if you are american
I think some do but nothing drastic maybe some fillers, rhino, lefort one possiblyDo people actually end up getting surgery here? Or do most of them say they will and never do it?
Agreed, I’d say the ones that ppl do mostly work tbh out coping areI think some do but nothing drastic maybe some fillers, rhino, lefort one possibly
I mean I don't know, any work should be fine. Restaurant or anything. Where you can get extra on weekends etc. Then just grind, if you live at home you should be able to get around 1k each month that you invest so you will probably 1,5x the amount over 5 years in the investment. Then if you saved around 10k per year you will have 75k at the age of 20 which is the age you should start hardmaxxing(bimax)How many years and where to work?
I mean lefort is the most drastic thing you can possibly do. Lefort 3 etc is just plain stupidI think some do but nothing drastic maybe some fillers, rhino, lefort one possibly
I want bimaxAgreed, I’d say the ones that ppl do mostly work tbh out coping are
BiMax/Trimax, rhino, fillers, gonial implants, Supras and infras
Most people need lefort thoughI mean lefort is the most drastic thing you can possibly do. Lefort 3 etc is just plain stupid
Yea most need lefort but not 3 lolMost people need lefort though
I’m genuinely gna get a rhino and genio despite having an okay Philtrum chin ratioDo people actually end up getting surgery here? Or do most of them say they will and never do it?
Lefort one isnt one of the most dramatic surgery tbhYea most need lefort but not 3 lol
Haha yes it is, I mean LL, monobloc, leforte 3 and obo is terribly stupidLefort one isnt one of the most dramatic surgery tbh
Lefort 3 is drastic. Not lefort 1Haha yes it is, I mean LL, monobloc, leforte 3 and obo is terribly stupid
No! I need to saveDo you think a bunch of teenagers have the money for it ?
Not drastic but it still a very invasive surgery. But not close to lefort 3Lefort 3 is drastic. Not lefort 1
What is a looks menu?Surgery is not LooksMenu where you can manually adjust the sliders. Outcome is hard to predict and there's an upper limit to how far we can advance the bone. Proper facial development wins in the end.
What is a looks menu?
I mean surgery is the best you can do of a pretty bad situation, and it shouldn't really be to go beyond. Just fix really bad failos
Good base and LuckSurgery requires planning.
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Good Base? Where? And what Luck?Good base and Luck
Before mogs 98% of the users and the facial expression is not the same.Surgery requires planning.
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I mog before easilyBefore mogs 98% of the users and the facial expression is not the same.
He had a good mandible, with good width and chin. He only needed it to move forward. He was perfect bimax candidateGood Base? Where? And what Luck?
I mean if you mog before you are stupid to get bimax. Because bimax should only be to fix functional issues firstly. Or if you have some extreme sfs or somethingI mog before easily
Im the perfect BiMax candidateHe had a good mandible, with good width and chin. He only needed it to move forward. He was perfect bimax candidate
I have SFS and I’ll get Trimax if I wannaI mean if you mog before you are stupid to get bimax. Because bimax should only be to fix functional issues firstly. Or if you have some extreme sfs or something
I mean the perfect bimax candidate looks deformed before.Im the perfect BiMax candidate
I mean if you have sfs and some sort of bite issue and some breathing problem sure go for it else you would just waste money to not fix anythingI have SFS and I’ll get Trimax if I wanna