Is surgery a pipedream for most people here?

[CookieGuy]

Do people actually end up getting surgery here? Or do most of them say they will and never do it?

 

[Sub5kang]

No, I will never alter anything besides getting a hair transplant and not for any sort of grand reason, I'm just broke

 

[lurking truecel]

No it's a dream for most, no one wants to risk it

 

[stripes]

An excuse maybe. Unless you got a plan that is firmly on the ground you're not going anywhere. Overweight people really think they can starve max when they got no discipline in the first place.

 

[CookieGuy]

An excuse maybe. Unless you got a plan that is firmly on the ground you're not going anywhere. Overweight people really think they can starve max when they got no discipline in the first place.

How would you say you make a proper plan for surgery

 

[CookieGuy]

No it's a dream for most, no one wants to risk it

I would love to risk it. I’ve been conditioning myself to surgery, for example I’m getting the NUSS procedure and one other procedure I can do at 15, I’m trying to make surgery seem like a normal thing to me.

Also where is the safest place to get Trimax with the PEEK implants?

 

[lurking truecel]

How would you say you make a proper plan for surgery

Go to a consultation with a real surgeon is the first step

 

[stripes]

How would you say you make a proper plan for surgery

Surgeries that aren't LeFort III and a surgeon willing to do them. Financial backing, etc. In theory anything is possible but most are pussies or incapable. I think you'd at least have some external input before making any decisions. Sometimes you get stuck on what you think is a failo but most don't even notice. You need a sound mind.

 

[lurking truecel]

I would love to risk it. I’ve been conditioning myself to surgery, for example I’m getting the NUSS procedure and one other procedure I can do at 15, I’m trying to make surgery seem like a normal thing to me.

Also where is the safest place to get Trimax with the PEEK implants?

In italy

 

[CookieGuy]

In italy

What’s the damage? (Price)

 

[Foreverbrad]

Most of the forum chads don’t need it and the forum subhumans don’t get it for various reasons including being broke or realising it won’t make enough of a difference.

I will get trimax and infra implants but realistically I am too old for it to matter much, it’s glorified self-harm at this point.

I think it’s difficult for anyone to commit to surgery until they’ve lost hope in every other avenue, a lot of these kids think they are going to be rich one day or that soft maxxing will get them where they want to be.

 

[CookieGuy]

Most of the forum chads don’t need it and the forum subhumans don’t get it for various reasons including being broke or realising it won’t make enough of a difference.

I will get trimax and infra implants but realistically I am too old for it to matter much, it’s glorified self-harm at this point.

I think it’s difficult for anyone to commit to surgery until they’ve lost hope in every other avenue, a lot of these kids think they are going to be rich one day or that soft maxxing will get them where they want to be.

Agreed. Can’t you get money loans or stuff with surgery? Surgery doesn’t cost too much unless you get it in the US

 

[Foreverbrad]

What’s the damage? (Price)

I would suggest to budget €50.000 at today’s prices. The actual surgery will be around €30.000 but you must also consider Ortho treatment and have money left over in case there is a revision or complication.

Agreed. Can’t you get money loans or stuff with surgery? Surgery doesn’t cost too much unless you get it in the US

Depends on your own income and credit score for a loan. Your average incel won’t have much of either. I have not heard of the surgeons themselves offering finance options.

USA guys can geomax surgery but even Italy is hard to afford for europoors.

 

[Hopefullneet]

I paid 6k for my surgery in US but probably could of gotten it cheaper. The problem is I have bad nose, chin, lips, and skull. A quote I got for nose was 17 k. I can hair fraud skull but all in all it's so much money for so little. My lips I don't think I can change but is massive failo and I'm ethnic.

 

[CookieGuy]

I would suggest to budget €50.000 at today’s prices. The actual surgery will be around €30.000 but you must also consider Ortho treatment and have money left over in case there is a revision or complication.



Depends on your own income and credit score for a loan. Your average incel won’t have much of either. I have not heard of the surgeons themselves offering finance options.

USA guys can geomax surgery but even Italy is hard to afford for europoors.

Really? Trimax and implants is gonna cost that much? There’s gotta be a way to make it cheaper

 

[Foreverbrad]

Really? Trimax and implants is gonna cost that much? There’s gotta be a way to make it cheaper

Go to turkey or India if you want cheaper I guess.

 

[CookieGuy]

Go to turkey or India if you want cheaper I guess.

Does quality differ?

 

[lurking truecel]

What’s the damage? (Price)

Around 30k

 

[CookieGuy]

Around 30k

I’m 15, how do I get that kinda money

 

[lurking truecel]

I’m 15, how do I get that kinda money

You work, should be easy if you are american

 

[CookieGuy]

You work, should be easy if you are american

How many years and where to work?

 

[noonespecial]

Do people actually end up getting surgery here? Or do most of them say they will and never do it?

I think some do but nothing drastic maybe some fillers, rhino, lefort one possibly

 

[CookieGuy]

I think some do but nothing drastic maybe some fillers, rhino, lefort one possibly

Agreed, I’d say the ones that ppl do mostly work tbh out coping are

BiMax/Trimax, rhino, fillers, gonial implants, Supras and infras

 

[lurking truecel]

How many years and where to work?

I mean I don't know, any work should be fine. Restaurant or anything. Where you can get extra on weekends etc. Then just grind, if you live at home you should be able to get around 1k each month that you invest so you will probably 1,5x the amount over 5 years in the investment. Then if you saved around 10k per year you will have 75k at the age of 20 which is the age you should start hardmaxxing(bimax)

 

[lurking truecel]

I think some do but nothing drastic maybe some fillers, rhino, lefort one possibly

I mean lefort is the most drastic thing you can possibly do. Lefort 3 etc is just plain stupid

 

[noonespecial]

Agreed, I’d say the ones that ppl do mostly work tbh out coping are

BiMax/Trimax, rhino, fillers, gonial implants, Supras and infras

I want bimax

 

[noonespecial]

I mean lefort is the most drastic thing you can possibly do. Lefort 3 etc is just plain stupid

Most people need lefort though

 

[lurking truecel]

Most people need lefort though

Yea most need lefort but not 3 lol

 

[grungymallard97]

Do people actually end up getting surgery here? Or do most of them say they will and never do it?

I’m genuinely gna get a rhino and genio despite having an okay Philtrum chin ratio

 

[noonespecial]

Yea most need lefort but not 3 lol

Lefort one isnt one of the most dramatic surgery tbh

 

[lurking truecel]

Lefort one isnt one of the most dramatic surgery tbh

Haha yes it is, I mean LL, monobloc, leforte 3 and obo is terribly stupid

 

[Saint Casanova]

Do you think a bunch of teenagers have the money for it ?

 

[CookieGuy]

Haha yes it is, I mean LL, monobloc, leforte 3 and obo is terribly stupid

Lefort 3 is drastic. Not lefort 1

 

[CookieGuy]

Do you think a bunch of teenagers have the money for it ?

No! I need to save

 

[lurking truecel]

Lefort 3 is drastic. Not lefort 1

Not drastic but it still a very invasive surgery. But not close to lefort 3

 

[St.TikTokcel]

Surgery is not LooksMenu where you can manually adjust the sliders. Outcome is hard to predict and there's an upper limit to how far we can advance the bone. Proper facial development wins in the end.

 

[CookieGuy]

Surgery is not LooksMenu where you can manually adjust the sliders. Outcome is hard to predict and there's an upper limit to how far we can advance the bone. Proper facial development wins in the end.

What is a looks menu?

 

[St.TikTokcel]

What is a looks menu?

 

[CookieGuy]

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Surgery requires planning.

 

[lurking truecel]

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I mean surgery is the best you can do of a pretty bad situation, and it shouldn't really be to go beyond. Just fix really bad failos

 

[lurking truecel]

Surgery requires planning.
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Good base and Luck

 

[CookieGuy]

Good base and Luck

Good Base? Where? And what Luck?

 

[St.TikTokcel]

Surgery requires planning.
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Before mogs 98% of the users and the facial expression is not the same.

 

[CookieGuy]

Before mogs 98% of the users and the facial expression is not the same.

I mog before easily

 

[lurking truecel]

Good Base? Where? And what Luck?

He had a good mandible, with good width and chin. He only needed it to move forward. He was perfect bimax candidate

 

[lurking truecel]

I mog before easily

I mean if you mog before you are stupid to get bimax. Because bimax should only be to fix functional issues firstly. Or if you have some extreme sfs or something

 

[CookieGuy]

He had a good mandible, with good width and chin. He only needed it to move forward. He was perfect bimax candidate

Im the perfect BiMax candidate

 

[CookieGuy]

I mean if you mog before you are stupid to get bimax. Because bimax should only be to fix functional issues firstly. Or if you have some extreme sfs or something

I have SFS and I’ll get Trimax if I wanna

 

[lurking truecel]

Im the perfect BiMax candidate

I mean the perfect bimax candidate looks deformed before.

 

[lurking truecel]

I have SFS and I’ll get Trimax if I wanna

I mean if you have sfs and some sort of bite issue and some breathing problem sure go for it else you would just waste money to not fix anything