Is this a realistic goal - Time, money, pain is not an issue for me.

[JohnRea]

A good idea to send a photo of a model in the first e-mail to a surgeon to ask him/her to try to make me look as close to the model as possible?

At least this is what is my dream, and I always disliked my face because it does not fit to my inner self.

Here is a recent photo of me :

And here is how I would want my face to be like :

(I know it's a shot from a cg movie, but this is the closest face that I've seen to my "dream" face so to speak sincerely.)

According to the best of your knowledge of the cosmetic-surgery capabilities today, is it realistic to get this kind of change?

Im willing to undergo any type of medically accepted surgery today, including surgeries, such as face bones implants, face bone resonstruction etc.

However, because I never contacted a surgeon prior about this I don't know if its a good idea to just straightforward tell the doctor that I sincerely dislike how my face looks as a whole and therefore I would really want my face to be entirely different and use the photo of a model as an inspiration to how I would want to look like instead.

Any input and help would mean the world for me and whoever is on this sub I wish the best in your journeys in finding the face that the best reflects your inner self

 

[needsolution]

If you have enough money and time then yeah i guess its possible from point where u start.

 

[zeno]

why do you wanna look like a nct ogre

 

[JohnRea]

why do you wanna look like a nct ogre

I checked what nct means and I do not agree that a man should only have the opposite of nct eyes. A man can look better even with nct eyes because in some cases it is more masculine looking.

Also, I think you are mistaken when you compare the masculinity on the models face with an ogre look.
But again, I think this boils down to personal preference and everyone have their own point of view and I can respect that.

Also I am a believer that for a man it is not about prettiness but more about the overall masculine effect.

 

[Deleted member 5061]

The cgi dude has slightly too long midface, other than that theyd need to add like 50% more bine mass to your head in order for u to look like that.

The other issue too- you need a frame to „wear“ a face like that cgi dude. If youre a skinny framelet it would look comical.

Just from seeing that face of chi guy, one knows that he is a super tall bulky MF...

 

[wristcel]

you could deffo Cristiano Ronaldo Max

 

[zeno]

I checked what nct means and I do not agree that a man should only have the opposite of nct eyes. A man can look better even with nct eyes because in some cases it is more masculine looking.

Also, I think you are mistaken when you compare the masculinity on the models face with an ogre look.
But again, I think this boils down to personal preference and everyone have their own point of view and I can respect that.

Also I am a believer that for a man it is not about prettiness but more about the overall masculine effect.

nct is a bad feature on everyone , the people that have it would look better with a neutral canthal tilt or positive for sure
having said that, you already arent ugly but you will never look like him, and its ok

 

[JohnRea]

If you have enough money and time then yeah i guess its possible from point where u start.

Yes, appreciate an honest sober answer
However what kind of procedures are we speaking if you have the will to tell me? I know I'm not paying but I just rely on the fact that people here are all one the same path onto fixing the outer looks to fit with their inner "looks" so to speak.

The cgi dude has slightly too long midface, other than that theyd need to add like 50% more bine mass to your head in order for u to look like that.

The other issue too- you need a frame to „wear“ a face like that cgi dude. If youre a skinny framelet it would look comical.

Just from seeing that face of chi guy, one knows that he is a super tall bulky MF...

Allright, thanks for clarification. So I need to add bone mass to head/face and my frame.
How can one do that? Bone implants? How do people add mass to their bones?

 

[needsolution]

Yes, appreciate an honest sober answer
However what kind of procedures are we speaking if you have the will to tell me? I know I'm not paying but I just rely on the fact that people here are all one the same path onto fixing the outer looks to fit with their inner "looks" so to speak.

Allright, thanks for clarification. So I need to add bone mass to head/face and my frame.
How can one do that? Bone implants? How do people add mass to their bones?

Fixing skin, tanning, straightening hair and growing it out, squinting and lowering bf from softmaxx
When it comes to surgeries you need some kind of jaw implants (not expert in this so will not help), browridge implants and eyebrow reshaping.

Dude you posted isnt really that good looking. He looks very masculine but there is nothing aesthetic but jaw.

 

[Deleted member 2846]

You’re gonna need like 300,000 dollars minimum

 

[Deleted member 2933]

this is autism tbh.

 

[Brandon10]

That is an artificial-intelligence generated photo from https://www.thispersondoesnotexist.com/

JFL at everyone who fell for this shit.

 

[JohnRea]

You’re gonna need like 300,000 dollars minimum

I know I wrote it earlier but I'll write it again, money is not an limiting factor for me.

I'm willing to undergo any procedure that is medically accepted today.
What is the most probable plan of action? I heard that to increase the bone mass in my skull/head an frame but is it done?

That is an artificial-intelligence generated photo from https://www.thispersondoesnotexist.com/

Nice "troll" attempt Brandon.
However there is no argument from you side. Even if the photo of the person does not exist it still does not take away from the question raised in this thread.
The questions is to look at this thread as a case study in which people here share their knowledge in looksmaxing in which they tell theoretically what can be done to turn the person in the first photo to look like the person in the second photo.

Where is the "falling for this shit" you mean?

It does not make a difference if the persons on the photos exist in "real" life or not, because this is case study from which people on this forum could benefit for themselves.

What matters is that the both persons on the photos look like humans that one can see in "real" life so people here are not comparing apples to oranges.

 

[CarnivoreDiet]

I can guess your height - 5'9.
Am i right? how tall are you?

 

[Brandon10]

However there is no argument from you side. Even if the photo of the person does not exist it still does not take away from the question raised in this thread.
The questions is to look at this thread as a case study in which people here share their knowledge in looksmaxing in which they tell theoretically what can be done to turn the person in the first photo to look like the person in the second photo.

It does not make a difference if the persons on the photos exist in "real" life or not, because this is case study from which people on this forum could benefit for themselves.

Except surgery is not Photoshop or character generation in Sims so you cannot make two completely different faces look the same with any amount of procedures.

And I mean yeah no problem claiming to be a non-existent person but I just don't see how this could benefit you or anyone else reading this cause as I stated before surgery has and probably always will have definite limits.

 

[JohnRea]

Except surgery is not Photoshop or character generation in Sims so you cannot make two completely different faces look the same with any amount of procedures.

And I mean yeah no problem claiming to be a non-existent person but I just don't see how this could benefit you or anyone else reading this cause as I stated before surgery has and probably always will have definite limits.

That's of course unfortunate if it so that the cosmetic surgery industry today could not do the transformation seen on the photo#1 to photo#2.

Which again boils down to the foundational question: What makes one face look certain way and the other certain way?

Well let's take it from what we understand today.
We have the base structure of a face and that is the skull/facial bones. This is the carcass on which the soft tissue "hangs on". So "theoretically if one took an scan of one skull and the other one could surgically alter the bones of one face to match the skill of the other person.

This would mean bone reconstruction : altering dimensions and distance between the different bones of the skull/face.

Then there would be the question of further modification of the bones: are some bones bigger then the targets? Shaving off the bones would be the solution. Are some of them bigger? An implant might be the solution. Etc.

Now would come the next step and that's it the soft tissue and the unique hair growth in the face and head. Hairline, eyebrows etc.

The hair part could be fixed with hair transplant and or hair removal.

So we are left with the rest soft tissue and that's the skin, muscle ttacents etc. Which in theory could be altered with.

What I can't become certain about is "why" is it not possible? Because according to my humble knowledge of the medical procedures today it is a possible task.

 

[Brandon10]

That's of course unfortunate if it so that the cosmetic surgery industry today could not do the transformation seen on the photo#1 to photo#2.

Which again boils down to the foundational question: What makes one face look certain way and the other certain way?

Well let's take it from what we understand today.
We have the base structure of a face and that is the skull/facial bones. This is the carcass on which the soft tissue "hangs on". So "theoretically if one took an scan of one skull and the other one could surgically alter the bones of one face to match the skill of the other person.

This would mean bone reconstruction : altering dimensions and distance between the different bones of the skull/face.

Then there would be the question of further modification of the bones: are some bones bigger then the targets? Shaving off the bones would be the solution. Are some of them bigger? An implant might be the solution. Etc.

Now would come the next step and that's it the soft tissue and the unique hair growth in the face and head. Hairline, eyebrows etc.

The hair part could be fixed with hair transplant and or hair removal.

So we are left with the rest soft tissue and that's the skin, muscle ttacents etc. Which in theory could be altered with.

What I can't become certain about is "why" is it not possible? Because according to my humble knowledge of the medical procedures today it is a possible task.

In plastic surgery theoretical suppositions are never sufficient to guarantee the outcomes that are described in them. You view of taking a skull model of someone and believing that you can replicate it on any random other skull is oversimplified. You just can't start cutting entire entities of your skull and expecting the result look smooth.

Let's start by saying that some fundamental facial ratios can't be altered in the face, neither with current research and techniques nor even theoretically. One of them for example is altering the midface length, specifially shortening it, of a dentally & orthognathically healthy person. No matter how much bone you cut from the maxilla and impact it, the soft tissues will just not 'shrink' that's impossible.

More hardcore stuff such as orbital box osteotomy, LeFort III risk leaving the rest of your face severely disfigured. It just doesn't work the way most think it does. You're not just simply moving bones and expect everything else to be perfect and unaffected. Which is why these procedures are restricted for people with severe functional issues who don't care about some important portion of their face that the surgery doesn't treat becoming worse. And anyone claiming that they're planning to have any one or these and expecting it that the rest of their face is not going to end fucked up are plain idiots.

As you also mentioned even if osteotomies or augmentative procedures weren't a problem there's the biggest unpredictable risk factor which is soft tissues, there are extreme variations among people in that matter. There's no current way to mimic someone else's facial skin density or elasticity.

And I know that this is a looksmaxxing site but your approach for having surgery (wanting to look exactly like someone else completely different than you) is unrealistic, dangerous and will leave you out of many surgeons' offices. Almost no user here comes claiming they're planning to have surgery to look like O' Pry or Gandy. Everyone is just trying to be an improved version of themselves which is the appropriate way to looksmax efficiently.

I suppose you know about the mental health of people who had goals similar to yours

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My opinion is that you should reconsider your goals from cosmetic surgery. And don't send that e-mail to any surgeon unless you want them to never associate with you again.

 

[CristianT]

you have way to much free time son

 

[Linoob]

The goal of looksmaxing should be to maximize your current form/structure / looks, not become some gigachad CGI.

Get realistic bro, this is silly af

 

[Nrrr15]

I can guess your height - 5'9.
Am i right? how tall are you?

He's 5'5