is this blackpilled youtuber natty or juice?

[norwood reaper]

5 years transformation

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2 years in claimed that the main reason he looks like this is cardio

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his lil bro after 6-8 months training, he said that is bro looks this good because he didn't do cardio

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I FEel like he did a few cycle to achieve this physique, for me hE 100% DID juice and is probably still on low dose tESt.
AND helped his lil bro on his looksmaxxing journey with roids too

 

[norwood reaper]

original video

 

[Deleted member 19798]

He’s roided lmao when someone says ‘I went on a bulk’, that just means they pinned test

 

[norwood reaper]

taging another fake natty blackpill
@Arborist

 

[Orc]

taging another fake natty blackpill
@Arborist

looks natty + not impressive from the front.

he doesn't even have particularly good insertions or skeletal structure, completely achievable for most people, have higher standards.

 

[norwood reaper]

looks natty + not impressive from the front.

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he doesn't even have particularly good insertions or skeletal structure, completely achievable for most people, have higher standards.

No it’s not, most people will never reach natty the physique of the guy.
It’s obviously not natty due to his starting point, and how he looked after 2 years of lifting
Most people have done 80% of their muscle gains after 2 year

 

[Orc]

No it’s not, most people will never reach natty the physique of the guy.

most people are retarded, don't push themselves, and have zero discipline, but this guy has completely average genes.

It’s obviously not natty due to his starting point, and how he looked after 2 years of lifting

it took him 5 years of lifting to reach the results of 1.

 

[Deleted member 23359]

looks natty

 

[norwood reaper]

most people are retarded, don't push themselves, and have zero discipline, but this guy has completely average genes.

it took him 5 years of lifting to reach the results of 1.

after 5 year of consistent training even with low discipline you reach 90% of your genetic potential…
Whatever i won’t agg with a fake natty, your reasoning don’t make any sense

 

[Deleted member 23359]

It’s obviously not natty due to his starting point

this starting point bs needs to stop i only see manlet greg keep pushing it

the starting point got nothing to do with genetic poteniel

 

[Orc]

after 5 year of consistent training even with low discipline you reach 90% of your genetic potential…
Whatever i won’t agg with a fake natty, your reasoning don’t make any sense

feel free to cripple your own progress by pretending someone that's lean with a little bit of muscle after 5 years of training is on drugs, you have extremely low standards and he looks wholly unimpressive.

 

[norwood reaper]

feel free to cripple your own progress by pretending someone that's lean with a little bit of muscle after 5 years of training is on drugs, you have extremely low standards and he looks wholly unimpressive.

Pdon’t talk like you don’t understand what i said,
I think he is not natty not because his physique is excessively impressive but because of his starting point and the amount of progress he made in 2 years of lifting. He looked litterally dyel.
He littterally made 3x more progress in his last years while losing fat, while it suposed to be the opposite. And completely impossible for a natural lifter.
While his brother look really good for only 6 months of training pbly due to a juice cycle done by his brother. These different elements lead me to believe that he is not natty.

I can’t tell to a 100% that he is natty but if my life was on the line i would say that he is on juice

 

[Orc]

I think he is not natty not because his physique is excessively impressive but because of his starting point and the amount of progress he made in 2 years of lifting. He looked litterally dyel.
He littterally made 3x more progress in his last years while losing fat, while it suposed to be the opposite.

this is quite normal, people make all sorts of mistakes their first years and end up not going very far, then reflect on themselves, fix what they're doing wrong and break through plateaus.

almost all beginners are too afraid to lose their abs once they finally have them and won't bulk properly.

just because he isn't showing the pictures in which he's fat doesn't mean he didn't gain any, cutting is a relatively fast process compared to bulking, I don't post the picture on which I look chubby and disgusting either, I looked like shit for 80% of the year my first two years of lifting.

 

[Gaygymmaxx]

This is a very good picture

I scrolled for two seconds on that vid and his physique is clearly not what this picture would indicate

He looks natty asf and frankly pretty skinny.

Not on juice, op is fat basement dweller if he thinks this is "100% on juice"

 

[Gaygymmaxx]

this is quite normal, people make all sorts of mistakes their first years and end up not going very far, then reflect on themselves, fix what they're doing wrong and break through plateaus.

almost all beginners are too afraid to lose their abs once they finally have them and won't bulk properly.

just because he isn't showing the pictures in which he's fat doesn't mean he didn't gain any, cutting is a relatively fast process compared to bulking, I don't post the picture on which I look chubby and disgusting either, I looked like shit for 80% of the year my first two years of lifting.

His physique is pretty reasonable and not even peak natty for his frame I'd say, still really balanced and clearly quite photogenic from the side angle

 

[Orc]

His physique is pretty reasonable and not even peak natty for his frame I'd say, still really balanced and clearly quite photogenic from the side angle

you are right, it's actually rather lackluster for 5 years, which means that he is very average or even below.

most people can have results like this.

 

[Gaygymmaxx]

Pdon’t talk like you don’t understand what i said,
I think he is not natty not because his physique is excessively impressive but because of his starting point and the amount of progress he made in 2 years of lifting. He looked litterally dyel.
He littterally made 3x more progress in his last years while losing fat, while it suposed to be the opposite. And completely impossible for a natural lifter.
While his brother look really good for only 6 months of training pbly due to a juice cycle done by his brother. These different elements lead me to believe that he is not natty.

I can’t tell to a 100% that he is natty but if my life was on the line i would say that he is on juice

How much have you lifted in your life?

 

[Deleted member 15854]

5 years transformation
View attachment 2115247 time code:0:22



2 years in claimed that the main reason he looks like this is cardioView attachment 2115246 time code 2:48



his lil bro after 6-8 months training, he said that is bro looks this good because he didn't do cardio
View attachment 2115252time code 3:21


I FEel like he did a few cycle to achieve this physique, for me hE 100% DID juice and is probably still on low dose tESt.
AND helped his lil bro on his looksmaxxing journey with roids too

mirin masc prettyboy ideal looks mogger

 

[norwood reaper]

How much have you lifted in your life?

Been lifting for 2 years and i have a better/equivalent physique than this guy at 5 years.

what is sus is not his physique but his transformation

 

[norwood reaper]

I litterally looked better than him before starting than he did after 2 years, it’s really suspicious

 

[Gaygymmaxx]

Been lifting for 2 years and i have a better/equivalent physique than this guy at 5 years.

what is sus is not his physique but his transformation

Agreed

2 years, 1 year of serious lifting

 

[Suimaxxer]

What the fuck did he do to improve his midface + lower third?

 

[Deleted member 25119]

5 years transformation
View attachment 2115247 time code:0:22



2 years in claimed that the main reason he looks like this is cardioView attachment 2115246 time code 2:48



his lil bro after 6-8 months training, he said that is bro looks this good because he didn't do cardio
View attachment 2115252time code 3:21


I FEel like he did a few cycle to achieve this physique, for me hE 100% DID juice and is probably still on low dose tESt.
AND helped his lil bro on his looksmaxxing journey with roids too

He look natural