Is this bloated Roblox face from bruxism or short face syndrome

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His bigonial is wider than his zygos which makes me think bruxism but he’s also got a short face syndrome phenotype similar but worse than mine.

It’s so bizzare, surely masetter botox followed by CW rotation largely fixes this right?
 
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Prolly some TMJ problem
 
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idk but it looks bad
 
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Fix TMJ into Trimax same surgery, no masseter botox
 
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it's idiopathic masseter muscle hypertrophy.
 
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Mogs me
 
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Fix TMJ into Trimax same surgery, no masseter botox
The bimax would be CW rotation right? How come no masetter Botox his bigonial looks wider than his zygos he probably has a teeth grinding issue.
it's idiopathic masseter muscle hypertrophy.
Idiopathic as in no known cause? I would assume something like this is from teeth grinding but it’s difficult to know unless we know when he developed it.
 
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The bimax would be CW rotation right? How come no masetter Botox his bigonial looks wider than his zygos he probably has a teeth grinding issue.

Idiopathic as in no known cause? I would assume something like this is from teeth grinding but it’s difficult to know unless we know when he developed it.
u check if it's not a tumor or some shit, then u check if it's TMJ disorder (most likely(tmj reconstruction etc)) or caused by malocclusion perma clenching and shit and then trimax but not necessarily CW, it could be VI or just straight advancement, and if it stil lstays then botox ye
 
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It looks so bad, masseter hypertropy fs, he can get zygo implants 2 balance it out or botox
 
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Did you grow your hair back @SubhumanCurrycel ?
 
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Did you grow your hair back @SubhumanCurrycel ?
its improved but its going to be thin, I go to work and stuff without a cap decently I keep my hair short around a No.3 on the top when it grows too long the texture and sparseness is weird. Im considering scalp micropigmentation maybe.
 
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its improved but its going to be thin, I go to work and stuff without a cap decently I keep my hair short around a No.3 on the top when it grows too long the texture and sparseness is weird. Im considering scalp micropigmentation maybe.
Godspeed to you man. Are you on duta or fin?
 
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dutasteride 0.5mg and 5mg oral minoxidil daily
Sorry to hijack the thread lol. Consider swapping to topical min with tret as it increases penetration and oral min is really dangerous long term. Also if you're well off you can increase the duta dose to 2.5mg daily
 
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It looks so bad, masseter hypertropy fs, he can get zygo implants 2 balance it out or botox
His zygos are already wide implants would delve him into uncanny territory
 
Sorry to hijack the thread lol. Consider swapping to topical min with tret as it increases penetration and oral min is really dangerous long term. Also if you're well off you can increase the duta dose to 2.5mg daily
Its alg. oral min is a blood pressure medication its dose for non hair was around 20-40mg, 5mg seems to be relatively safe I've had my heart checked not related to the medication I required a check after a certain amount of years out of chemo everythings normal
Common side effects were hypertrichosis (93% of patients) and pedal edema (10%). No serious cardiovascular adverse events and abnormal laboratory findings were observed.
I used to use tret and topical minoxidil compounded with tret but I just never got over the scalp irritation and had constant dermatitis which is why I switched over. I've never heard of 2.5mg daily I doubt it would do much Duta kills like 90% of your DHT anyways.
 
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Its alg. oral min is a blood pressure medication its dose for non hair was around 20-40mg, 5mg seems to be relatively safe I've had my heart checked not related to the medication I required a check after a certain amount of years out of chemo everythings normal

I used to use tret and topical minoxidil compounded with tret but I just never got over the scalp irritation and had constant dermatitis which is why I switched over. I've never heard of 2.5mg daily I doubt it would do much Duta kills like 90% of your DHT anyways.
Haircafe made a video about it but I forgot what the title was. He said that theoretically 2.5mg should be the most effective dose and it should remain safe. However, the difference in between 0.5mg and 2.5mg shouldn't be too crazy
 
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His bigonial is wider than his zygos which makes me think bruxism but he’s also got a short face syndrome phenotype similar but worse than mine.

It’s so bizzare, surely masetter botox followed by CW rotation largely fixes this right?
bruxism, masseter hypertrophy

have you observed/do you agree that all short face syndrome individuals have ramus that is too long/tall? gonial angle too flat? (not big enough)? I have that problem.
 
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Sorry to hijack the thread lol. Consider swapping to topical min with tret as it increases penetration and oral min is really dangerous long term. Also if you're well off you can increase the duta dose to 2.5mg daily
why is oral min harmful long term?
 
Its alg. oral min is a blood pressure medication its dose for non hair was around 20-40mg, 5mg seems to be relatively safe I've had my heart checked not related to the medication I required a check after a certain amount of years out of chemo everythings normal

I used to use tret and topical minoxidil compounded with tret but I just never got over the scalp irritation and had constant dermatitis which is why I switched over. I've never heard of 2.5mg daily I doubt it would do much Duta kills like 90% of your DHT anyways.
what changes have you noticed using oral minox?
 
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His bigonial is wider than his zygos which makes me think bruxism but he’s also got a short face syndrome phenotype similar but worse than mine.

It’s so bizzare, surely masetter botox followed by CW rotation largely fixes this right?
I meant to say somehow that the 2 are related because if you have short face syndrome then I think your "bite" is more "backward" rather than forward (sorry, I sound dumb, wrong terms) and the pressure from that can cause bruxism? if that makes sense?
 
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bruxism, masseter hypertrophy

have you observed/do you agree that all short face syndrome individuals have ramus that is too long/tall? gonial angle too flat? (not big enough)? I have that problem.
I don’t think the ramus part is necessarily true, the low gonial angle is characteristic yes
 
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I meant to say somehow that the 2 are related because if you have short face syndrome then I think your "bite" is more "backward" rather than forward (sorry, I sound dumb, wrong terms) and the pressure from that can cause bruxism? if that makes sense?
I think that can make sense if constant grinding collapses your jaw backwards
 
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I don’t think the ramus part is necessarily true, the low gonial angle is characteristic yes
The way I’ve observed it - it’s almost like an equation or sum combining mandible length and ramus length

Longer ramus = short face syndrome = shorter mandible length whereas 120 degree or higher gonial angle = shorter ramus compensated with a longer mandible which is a good thing too
 
Hair grows a bit quicker more darker hairs on scalp and eyebrows
Do you do anything for eyebrows or eye lashes? I have oral min but don’t take it too consistently but eyebrows aren’t dense at all need improvement there
 
Yes plus it’s exacerbated due to the bloat from dbol or whatever he’s taking
 

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